How do all the doom and gloomers feels now?

ESisback · May 1, 2022

Now that most agree it was a pretty good draft, the doom-n-gloom types are focusing on how the Jones boys weren’t involved. A bad draft would have been all theirs.

Cowboyny · May 2, 2022

CowboyRoy said:
I dont think we have a true contender yet. But its not like there are all these great teams that cant be beaten.

For me, this offseason was all about fixing the run game and getting better stopping the run. Tyler Smith should be an upgrade in that department as he was the top rated run blocker in the nation. Did we do enough to get better at stopping the run? Clark, Ridgeway are a good start.

MountaineerCowboy · May 2, 2022

ESisback said:
Now that most agree it was a pretty good draft, the doom-n-gloom types are focusing on how the Jones boys weren’t involved. A bad draft would have been all theirs.

Do you put complete faith into anything else in your life that has failed for 26 straight years?

Is there ever a point where you say "Ya know, I'll trust ya when you give me a reason to trust ya. I'm not going to just blindly do it anymore"?

ESisback · May 2, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Do you put complete faith into anything else in your life that has failed for 26 straight years?

Is there ever a point where you say "Ya know, I'll trust ya when you give me a reason to trust ya. I'm not going to just blindly do it anymore"?

There’s a whole pile of real estate between “complete” or “blind” faith and the endless crying about everything.

We had a good draft. Period. Fingers crossed.

Ekspozed · May 2, 2022

Upgraded Oline, downgraded wr. Everything else is pretty much the same.

MountaineerCowboy · May 2, 2022

Ekspozed said:
Upgraded Oline, downgraded wr. Everything else is pretty much the same.

That's the thing though...

We have NO idea if we really upgraded the O-Line until we see it on the field.

Ekspozed · May 2, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
That's the thing though...

We have NO idea if we really upgraded the O-Line until we see it on the field.

That's how I feel about most of our positions.

I only count Oline as upgraded because Williams got pushed around and flagged a lot. At least (hopefully) Smith doesn't get pushed around.
I think we aren't worse at lg then last year.

baltcowboy · May 2, 2022

The Cowboys are clearly better defensively after the draft. The Cowboys also will be better at running the football. The Cowboys did well and I believe they will bring in some free agents.

ESisback · May 2, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
That's the thing though...

We have NO idea if we really upgraded the O-Line until we see it on the field.

We’re all just speculating here.

Miller · May 2, 2022

ESisback said:
There’s a whole pile of real estate between “complete” or “blind” faith and the endless crying about everything.

We had a good draft. Period. Fingers crossed.

Listen I’m not a doomer but saying “we had a good draft. Period” without seeing anyone play and not being critical is definition of blind faith. Hey props to you though

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · May 2, 2022

Miller said:
Listen I’m not a doomer but saying “we had a good draft. Period” without seeing anyone play and not being critical is definition of blind faith. Hey props to you though

There is no such thing as blind faith here. We have footage we can look at on every player.
:muttley:

ESisback · May 2, 2022

Miller said:
Listen I’m not a doomer but saying “we had a good draft. Period” without seeing anyone play and not being critical is definition of blind faith. Hey props to you though

No, it’s being hopeful, based on what you’ve heard and seen and read. All any of us can do is speculate on the information we have. Some are glass half full, some are glass half empty, but there are no guarantees. This is supposed to be fun, and everyone has a choice—happy or sad?

Ekspozed · May 2, 2022

baltcowboy said:
The Cowboys are clearly better defensively after the draft. The Cowboys also will be better at running the football. The Cowboys did well and I believe they will bring in some free agents.

Potentially better*

Ekspozed · May 2, 2022

ESisback said:
No, it’s being hopeful, based on what you’ve heard and seen and read. All any of us can do is speculate on the information we have. Some are glass half full, some are glass half empty, but there are no guarantees. This is supposed to be fun, and everyone has a choice—happy or sad?

Every team we face also has shiny new toys and upgrades.
Some actual upgrades too.
Will Tolbert Washington be better than cooper and Wilson?
Will ridgeway be better than bohanna?
Will Fowler and Sam Williams be better than Gregory ?
Not sure where you are seeing the huge upgrades.
Of course some of them have potential to be better, but what if Smith isn't as good moving inside as we hope? What if he still holds as much as who he's replacing? What if the kicker misses more than just extra points?
What if a Gallup clone wasn't what we needed ?
We also haven't filled every hole, who replaces Neal?

Miller · May 2, 2022

ESisback said:
No, it’s being hopeful, based on what you’ve heard and seen and read. All any of us can do is speculate on the information we have. Some are glass half full, some are glass half empty, but there are no guarantees. This is supposed to be fun, and everyone has a choice—happy or sad?

Man I get it! As I said, props to you. Great attitude. I just don’t also begrudge a little caution that some have! Cheers

Miller · May 2, 2022

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
There is no such thing as blind faith here. We have footage we can look at on every player.

Yeah every player has tape. But you can’t just say it’s a great draft based on that. I love the high ceiling on a lot of these guys but still want to see how they do I’m the pros before getting too excited.

Parcells4Life · May 2, 2022

Cowboyny said:
For me, this offseason was all about fixing the run game and getting better stopping the run. Tyler Smith should be an upgrade in that department as he was the top rated run blocker in the nation. Did we do enough to get better at stopping the run? Clark, Ridgeway are a good start.

Except Clark won’t even practice until November and I doubt Ridgeway is a meaningful contributor before then. Defense will be mostly status quo from last year. Williams isn’t going to be DWare day 1

baltcowboy · May 2, 2022

Ekspozed said:
Potentially better*

The Cowboys return practically the same defense except for Gregory before the draft. Parsons and Diggs will be better. The defense is better.

Smith is better run blocker right now then Williams ever was. The team has gotten rid of La el virus.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · May 2, 2022

Miller said:
Yeah every player has tape. But you can’t just say it’s a great draft based on that. I love the high ceiling on a lot of these guys but still want to see how they do I’m the pros before getting too excited.

I think some are looking at what we've done over the last two years and are feeling good about the future. The FO seems to be turning the corner. We've been pounding the table for a TE for about three years. We've been asking for big bodied DT's for about eight years. We were saying Jaylon Smith needs to be cut two years before the team cut him. We've been frustrated with Jerry maxing out the cap every year. So when the FO start making moves that the fans agree with, the fans start to feeling good about the teams chances. So saying it's a good draft is more about some feeling the front office is turning the corner.

I feel like the FO is turning the corner, so I too feel like it was a good draft. Because they are starting to see and do things differently. These last two years they've been making moves that most agree with. Some of us are struggling to get past the Cooper and Collins debacles, but for the most part things are starting to look better. Better decisions, better team.

Ekspozed · May 2, 2022

baltcowboy said:
The Cowboys return practically the same defense except for Gregory before the draft. Parsons and Diggs will be better. The defense is better.

Smith is better run blocker right now then Williams ever was. The team has gotten rid of La el virus.

Collins was better than what we have.
You are moving Smith to a new position, against way better competition and HOPE you fix his penalties and technique issues.
I doubt diggs gets 10+ ints again this year.
You HOPE Parsons takes the next step.
You ignore the fact we lost cooper, our best wr. Wilson, another who has produced for us. Gallup coming off injury. Washington coming in from a failed tenure in Pitt where he kept getting beat out by other wrs. Will lamb be able to handle the doubles he will face now ?

Like I said, potentially* better.

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