Electric cars

Reid1boys said:

look beyond today. Chargers are going to be more prevalent than gas stations. Chargers are already at restaurants, they are going to be in shopping center parking lots, places of work, all up and down highways, and obviously the place most people will charge, right in your garage. The future is happening right in front of our faces.. most people just dont even see it happening.

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CalPolyTechnique said:

You can charge them from a standard 110 but at a painfully slow rate equivalent to 4-5 miles per hour from what I understand. A 240 gives you about 30 miles per hour.

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Reid1boys said:

That f150 lightning is sweet. Go watch youtube videos of the Rivian and see ACTUAL people that have driven them. They make it clear, they are heads and shoulders above any ICE truck they have ever driven.

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BrAinPaiNt said:

reminds me of those people who would never drive (insert car manufacture name) here even if they were giving them away. Only will drive a (insert car manufacturer name here).

I even knew one guy that had a truck that broke down and another friend offered to tow him with his for free and the guy refused because he did not like the brand of truck the other guy had.
So instead he paid for a towing service.

Another example I remember was a guy who said he would never buy CDs when they were starting out.
He would say that the cassette is just as good of sound quality as the CD.
I said unless you have a DAT you are not getting anywhere near the quality of the CD.
Guy would just so stubborn and set in his ways that he refused the idea.

Everyone has a choice and you are entitled to that choice.
But sometimes it is nothing more than...

Biting off their nose to spite their face due to pure stubbornness.

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Roadtrip635 said:

That's true, the quality was noticeable especially against cassette tapes. It took me a while to switch from cassettes to CD in my car, it wasn't about quality but versatility, had to have my mixtapes....lol CD changers were OK but still pretty limiting, 6 disc changers were OK but still meant you had to travel with a bunch of CD's and never liked the idea of having all those CD's(read $$) sitting in the car. Personal CD recording wasn't available for awhile and when it started showing up, was still pretty pricey.

As it pertains to the original topic, that's what electric cars lack right now, versatility. Electric cars are still too pricey and just just don't fit into everybody's budgets or lifestyles. Not everybody can afford multiple vehicles for different tasks. Many people need to haul things, long distance travel or have convenient access to charging points, not to mention charge times. Right now, it just doesn't make sense for a lot of people. Hybrids may be a good bridge between the two for most people until tech and infrastructure continues to grow.

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Reverend Conehead said:

My brother has a Tesla electric car. It's really nice. It's really quiet, and has insane acceleration. It does that so well, it would be easy to overdo it. I felt like I was in an F-14 fighter jet because that Tesla's acceleration was pulling so many Gs. I don't remember the exact stats, but it has a range of hundreds of miles and then needs about 2 hours to charge up. With a really good network of charge stations across the country, you could do a cross-country trip in it. I know I can only drive so far before I need to stop and eat and relax.

My brother is also registered to post her at CZ, though he doesn't visit as often as I do. If he happens to see this, he can comment.

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Jammer said:

One other thing I might add, in the future there may be more chargers than gas stations, but it's because a gas station can fuel a vehicle in minutes compared to an EV which takes significantly longer. You don't have to have as many gas stations as they're more efficient.

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rags747 said:

Cybertruck also coming out 2023, Mad Max baby!

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SlammedZero said:

I don't know if you guys have heard of Doug DeMuro. He is a YouTube car reviewer. He has reviewed/driven tons of super and hypercars, and his reaction to the Plaid acceleration says it all. I'll time stamp it to the part of that video.

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Reid1boys said:

Not every EV is 70k. Hauling is a problem? The Rivian has an 11k hauling capacity. Charging times on super chargers... which are going up like crazy... 10-20 minutes will suffice in most situations. I currently have multiple vehicles for multiple tasks... using ICE vehicles. Got my suburban for when wife and 4 daughters all go somewhere. Got my truck for when I go to Home depot. Wife has her little convertible for fun.... EVs dont change the fact many of us have multiple cars.

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Roadtrip635 said:

I don't doubt EV trucks would make for good haulers, instant torque, but that range drops dramatically. The point of multiple vehicles wasn't about the people that can own multiple vehicles, but about the ones that can't afford it and an EV isn't practical for them right now. Sounds like you live in Cali, charging points are probably more widespread than other parts of the country. You also own a house so home charging is convenient, it's not so convenient for those living in apartments, where only a small percentage may have charging points.

Reading your other responses, especially about the infrastructure, it's about the future, what will happen but we're not there yet for a large portion of people. EV certainly sounds like the wave of the future, but until it becomes more widespread, cheaper, and convenient, many people won't make the switch.

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Reid1boys said:

I agree with you.. EVs are in their infancy. Im sure when ICE cars were starting to populate on a large scale, gas stations werent abundant. My guess is in a decade, all of these issues wont be a problem. I bet apartment complexes have chargers all over the place. But, we shall see. The infrastructure bill passed recently had Billions in it for EV infrastructure. Many just dont realize how fast this is happening.

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Reid1boys said:

You reading books from a certain University?

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Reid1boys said:

By the time that is happening, there wont be any issues. in addition, you dont charge the car EVERY single night. My neighbor drive about 34 miles round trip to work and back. Her tesla has about 300 mile range. She needs to charge about every 5th night.

Do you go to the gas pump and fill up everyday?

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Reid1boys said:

You reading books from a certain University?

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