Tyler Smith is not the next Tyron Smith

john van brocklin · Apr 30, 2022

IceStar-D7 said:
I'm saying Tyron Smith beats you with power and pure skill. This guy is more like big E a mauler. He's just gonna maul you to death.... I hope

Me-too!!!

Cmac · May 1, 2022

Typhus said:
Smith is a Mauler, and will get flagged in pass protection until tech is corrected, but I will take that all day with this player.
Give me a RB at some point on day 3, and this running game can get better quickly, and the return on Smiths investment will be expedited and noticed quickly as well.

Ok.....but what good is a RB when the blocking is bad or a good run is called back due to penalty? Kinda like the chicken before the egg theory, but this board butchers Zeke on the one area that causes a lot of problems, for everybody......OL play. So we'll just have to see how Tyler Smith comes to play, and hopeful this isn't Chaz Green 2.0.

Acceptablename · May 1, 2022

HIs a Starter on the offensive line and a good one. Onward

Bullflop · May 1, 2022

Typhus said:
Smith is a Mauler, and will get flagged in pass protection until tech is corrected, but I will take that all day with this player.
Give me a RB at some point on day 3, and this running game can get better quickly, and the return on Smiths investment will be expedited and noticed quickly as well.

Like they say -- you can't coach size . . . it helps that he's "strong like bull," as well.

It might take a while to coach him up, although he seems to have impressed Jerry, too.

baltcowboy · May 1, 2022

Tyler Smith was drafted to bring back our power run game and toughen our offensive line. He has the tools to do that.

Texas_Pete · May 1, 2022

Interesting take:

Ranched · May 2, 2022

Texas_Pete said:
Interesting take:

So is this! Tyler Smith led the NCAA in penalties last year. He had 16 penalties in 2021. 12 of them were holding calls. So if you don't like Conner Williams. Meet Tyler Smith!

Bullflop · May 2, 2022

Ranched said:
So is this! Tyler Smith led the NCAA in penalties last year. He had 16 penalties in 2021. 12 of them were holding calls. So if you don't like Conner Williams. Meet Tyler Smith!

Fair enough, although, most of Connor Williams flags were due to his lack of strength. Tyler won't have that deficiency. It's my fervent hope that he'll be "coached up" to overcome his woes with technique. I'm pretty sure we'll get more info on that situation as practices and TC get started.

speedkilz88 · May 2, 2022

Tulsa HC Talks Penalties, Portal & More On T. Smith

So when the narrative on Tyler Smith pivots from being drafted in the first round to the excessive holding penalties he endured last year, Montgomery is quick to defend his player. In fact, the head coach said Smith's brute strength is what leads to many of those penalties.

"Nah, I think he'll be fine in that regard," Montgomery said of the penalties. "I will say this, and I'm a little biased so I'm going to throw this part in there ... Tyler plays so physical that at times, he got some penalties called against him that weren't penalties. (The refs) saw somebody on the ground and they were like, "well, something must have happened so I just threw a flag there.' He was that dominant and that physical of a guy."

Montgomery leads a Tulsa offense that is one of the fastest-paced teams in the country. He pointed out that while most guards in this draft average anywhere from 700-750 snaps in a season, Smith played 915, suggested that more reps will lead to a higher number of penalties.

But Montgomery did admit that Smith had some technique issues earlier in his career, that led to a few more holding calls. But he's adamant that if Smith sticks to his technique and relies on his strength, he can be a dominant player.

"His hands got wide (at times) ... once he gets his hands back inside and corrects some of those technical things, he can be a beast," Montgomery said. "Once he gets a hold of you, you're not going anywhere. He can be out of position, he is so damn strong that he can pull himself and you back into a position where he's back where he's needs to be."

Pass2Run · May 2, 2022

You guys are sleeping on this kid. Come a couple a years, it'll be fun to bump it and see. This kid has the kind of personality to really be one of the best in the game. He has a great head on his shoulders, and looks to have a really solid heart as a human.

That's stuff you can't coach.

The rest of the stuff you are dissing him on . . . can be coached.

KJJ · May 2, 2022

The first couple of holding calls Tyler Smith gets and the fans that hated the pick will be jumping all over him.

Deionindahood · May 3, 2022

Runwildboys said:
If he punches DEs like Erik used to, he'll probably get penalized and ejected for it. This ain't the good ol' days.

Tyler was the most penalized OL in college. In 2021, Tyler had 12 holding penalties in 12 games.
Add that to us leading the NFL with 27 holding calls and we're gonna have an issue.

Bob-Lillys-War · May 3, 2022

The offense is super talented , we need more defensive talent .

MikeT22 · May 3, 2022

He's neither Tyron or Erik Williams....Tyler Smith will be an OG

Deionindahood · May 4, 2022

KJJ said:
The first couple of holding calls Tyler Smith gets and the fans that hated the pick will be jumping all over him.

And rightfully so. The reason to hold is that your opponent is beating you. If he couldn't learn to stop holding in college, what makes us think he will do so now?

JW82 · May 4, 2022

I’ll settle for the next Ron Leary.

RustyBourneHorse · May 4, 2022

baltcowboy said:
Tyler Smith was drafted to bring back our power run game and toughen our offensive line. He has the tools to do that.

Exactly, and we need to get back to those roots. A strong run game helps take care of the passing game.

RustyBourneHorse · May 4, 2022

If Jerry still has Erik Williams's phone number on speed dial, it'd be smart to ask him to help mentor Tyler Smith. Either him or ask Larry Allen to help. Just as how DWare helped Micah last year.

LittleD · May 4, 2022

CowboyChris said:
or a DT

They drafted a pretty good one in the 5th. Mean, nasty fellow who loves to break heads and bones.

DanA · May 4, 2022

Deionindahood said:
And rightfully so. The reason to hold is that your opponent is beating you. If he couldn't learn to stop holding in college, what makes us think he will do so now?

The short answer is that in the NFL he will have better coaches and it will be his full time job to get better. The fundamentals are actually there but in terms of OT, they aren’t right enough for the NFL.

But Connor Williams was losing because even 4 years in the NFL it was likely he was fighting above his weight division. Tyler Smith is a natural heavy weight that’s losing because he is a bit laconic with his technic and that causes him problems in space when play OT.

Tyler Smith is not the next Tyron Smith

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