Was the number one problem on the D addressed?

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:

That's why I like them as a tandem. Bohanna plays with speed and quickness even though he's big. Ridgeway plays with power and strength. So Ridgeway can anchor while Bohanna disrupts.

Ridgeway is a natural two gap DT. If Bohannna creates a hole while trying to disrupt, Ridgeway can cover it. That's exactly what I want from my two big bodied DT's. One to be a natural one gap player, while the other is a natural two gap player.

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Hopefully BO becomes starter quality. Needs to progress.

speedkilz88 said:

The reason they drafted him was to help the run stopping.

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He'll be able to if he stops rising on the snap. Must stay low, when he does he's immovable. Not easy at his height.

Batman1980 said:

And how many play-off games did we win with those 5 on the roster? Good players all but certainly overrated, hopefully the overall team talent has improved enough for us to get at least a bit further.

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Only one I didn't like losing was Cedric, but he just wasn't worth what we would've had to pay him.

Batman1980 said:

49ers run as much as they do because you have to hide a bus driver like Jimmy G who can't take a lot of hits as much as you can.

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I can? Hey, I am not taking hits because it may take only one from an angry man to put me down.

doomsday9084 said:

Personally I thought that once Gallimore was back, the defense was pretty good. Unfortunately, Gallimore came back roughly when the offense decided to stop so the team results didn't show it. Even the statistics aren't super great for the defense but again, the constant 3 and outs from the offense late in the season was hanging them out to dry.

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I had high hopes for Gallimore in the 2nd half of the seaon , but for some reason his return was delayed and when he came in he was still iffy. The impact was lesser than anticipated, In the palyoff game SF OL was more physical and they beat us . Of course our offensive woes, especially the notoriously late goings is killing this team’s chances

lqmac1 said:

2nd & 3rd rounds aren’t considered “low”.

Yeah I expect it to work now. We went from the 30th ranked defense to the 12th in one season. Obviously we’re trending in the right direction.

I’m sure it’ll only take a couple of lunges, but I got faith in you pulling your head out of your *** and actually using your visionary pov!

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They were talking about run defense, and our 2nd round outside pass rusher and 3rd round WR aren't going to help much wit that.

atlantacowboy said:

Replacing them with lesser players improves our chances? The overall team talent took a plunge.

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Lessor known name does not equate to lessor talent ie aviablity and prodcution etc ..sorry you are off base as uaual with thje negative responses without actual Facto, we relesed names who were bit overrated and under producing over injury, suspensions, missing games and mistake prone.

we dont know if the players who replaced them wont produce at at least a PUSH for less money. That worse case scenario imo..

Gregory's 6 who sacks can be replaced by fowler and possibly more by Willams together anyway. so Gregory and his 13mil baggage claims 6 sacks cant be replaced by fowler and sam who together are cheaper and might easily be better..

Cwill even if CM replaces him cant be worse then last year and 6mil cheaper. Add TSmith rookie its a push at worst

Collins mise all of 2020,suspneded 6 games 2021 came back out of shape both times and wasnt the 2019 guy whos making 10mil Steel showed ha could at least be close to Collins..cheaper

Zurlein not great gone , camp battle will produce a kicker

Jawrin same thing over paid always hurt and not producing gone 4th round pick and Mckeon replaces him easily..push

Cedrick Wilson Washington easily replaces him

Turner wow 12 catches well im sure vasher, semi or brown can take up that slack=push

AC well hes the only one that we didn't directly replace but Lamb already the leading WR the rest with targets spread amongst all of them when Gallup comes back we will be fine until then you spread the targets to Pollard form the slot more, Washington and game plans maybe more 12 personal heavy ie 2 Tes , pollard out of the backfield as well as zeke.. better game plans and schemes using who we have now weil make up for AC..can Moore do that we shall see but most know MM will have lot more input on offense this season with his seat very hot,..

im not worried about any of the loses at all..


you are welcome for my detailed response that contained some commonsense vs feelings. stop looking at the back of jerseys vs actual production and availability.

OmerV said:

They were talking about run defense, and our 2nd round outside pass rusher and 3rd round WR aren't going to help much wit that.

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Only so many 1 or 3 techs can make a roster. Hill, Gallimore, Osa, Watkins, Bohanna, Ridgeway.

That’s 5 dudes taken within the last three drafts for purely run stopping abilities.

Not quite sure what more you would want from the front office? I don’t recall passing up on a “can’t miss“ DT, but i could be wrong.

Aaron Donald simply isn’t available but like once a lifetime!

lqmac1 said:

Only so many 1 or 3 techs can make a roster. Hill, Gallimore, Osa, Watkins, Bohanna, Ridgeway.

That’s 5 dudes taken within the last three drafts for purely run stopping abilities.

Not quite sure what more you would want from the front office? I don’t recall passing up on a “can’t miss“ DT, but i could be wrong.

Aaron Donald simply isn’t available but like once a lifetime!

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Several times, going back to Fletcher Cox. Also, Jarran Reed, Chris Jones, Goldman, Tomlinson, Payne. We passed up Ashawn Robinson and Jarran Reed for frikin' Jaylon. We don't look at DT's in the first two rounds, no matter if they're BPA or obvious.

kskboys said:

Several times, going back to Fletcher Cox. Also, Jarran Reed, Chris Jones, Goldman, Tomlinson, Payne. We passed up Ashawn Robinson and Jarran Reed for frikin' Jaylon. We don't look at DT's in the first two rounds, no matter if they're BPA or obvious.

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Jordan Williams was my target in the 1st round but I'm betting even if he slid to #24 we would've taken Smith.

lqmac1 said:

Only so many 1 or 3 techs can make a roster. Hill, Gallimore, Osa, Watkins, Bohanna, Ridgeway.

That’s 5 dudes taken within the last three drafts for purely run stopping abilities.

Not quite sure what more you would want from the front office? I don’t recall passing up on a “can’t miss“ DT, but i could be wrong.

Aaron Donald simply isn’t available but like once a lifetime!

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Actually Hill was 4 drafts ago, and Watkins was drafted by the Texas in 2017.

I didn't say we didn't have players on the roster, I commented on your response to another posters who said we didn't aggressively address the D-Line and run defense with high draft picks. You said 2nd and 3rd rounders is being aggressive, but none of those guys were 2nd or 3rd rounders this year, and half of them weren't picked that high when they were drafted.

Hill was the only 2nd rounder, but I don't think we can cling to him as an answer, or as a reason not to address the interior run defense today. Hill has only averaged 6 games a season since he was drafted, and only started 5 total games.

Bohanna was a 6th rounder, and Ridgeway a 5th rounder, so what the other poster said about them not being high picks is accurate. Watkins was a 4th rounder when the Texans drafted him in 2017, and he's only average at best.

To me Gallimore and Osa are the only two that have shown real upside potential, although the jury is still out on both, but both are more 3 techs than a run stuffing 1 tech. Hopefully Ridgeway can fill that role, but again he falls in the category that other poster mentioned of not being a high draft pick.

visionary said:

We addressed our main problem just like we always do, refusing to recognize it and throwing a late round pick at it to appease the masses.

hopefully Ridgeway can make a difference but expecting a 5th round rookie to do that is unlikely.

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Did you have players in mind at our draft spots? No snark, just wanting to know if you saw a way to do it better?

The argument against making a run stuffer a higher priority is that there simply aren't many dominant run stoppers and even less that you can keep on the field in passing situations.

It did look like we had Jordan Davis ranked fairly high though.

CWR said:

Did you have players in mind at our draft spots? No snark, just wanting to know if you saw a way to do it better?

The argument against making a run stuffer a higher priority is that there simply aren't many dominant run stoppers and even less that you can keep on the field in passing situations.

It did look like we had Jordan Davis ranked fairly high though.

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Travis Jones was sitting there at 56 but we had predetermined that we are going to take Sam Williams at 56

CouchCoach said:

This was how I was going to grade this draft as it went, did they address the run D? Because they did, by method of elimination instead of choice, in last year's draft in round 1.

They picked a DE with the 2nd because of the Gregory loss and one that is far more pass rusher than run stopper, the owner's idea of a "war daddy".

I do not see where they took the pressure to score off the offense and they will have to meet last year's high number to have a winning record.

However, the success of this year's team isn't nearly as reliant on this draft class as the previous one. That, was the D draft and they need to step up this season.

The other question I had going in was will they get their D star some help and they might have done that on the pass rush with Williams but playing the run, not so much.

I think the run D is going to be overly dependent on Vander Esch. Who, btw, was the best run defender in that playoff game. Keeping him went a little under the radar but that might have been one of the best off season moves.

The Cowboys D is going to have to stop the run more and better this season than the last. And last year, they were mediocre and ranked 30th in giving up runs of 20+ yards.

I saw where McC was going "playoffs, playoffs, playoffs, remember the playoffs" during the draft, who was he talking to and were they listening? His D gave up 170 yards and control of the game.

Have to go D on addressing the run D with this draft class. However, 2021's class could bring the overall grade up, if they step up.

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I would say a little. They got rid of a walking talking roughing the passer penalty on 3rd and long in randy gregory

CWR said:

Did you have players in mind at our draft spots? No snark, just wanting to know if you saw a way to do it better?

The argument against making a run stuffer a higher priority is that there simply aren't many dominant run stoppers and even less that you can keep on the field in passing situations.

It did look like we had Jordan Davis ranked fairly high though.

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Not this draft. I like Alim McNeal last draft

Flamma said:

I don't think the run D was addressed. But who knows? Some of these interior lineman may take a step forward. Our 5th round pick may be a diamond in the rough. I'll wait to see. But my expectations as of right now is that we get gashed in the run game all season long. I hope I'm wrong.

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I think you're right about the run D, but when you're stuck with picking in the 24th position and you had a couple of serious "needs" to be addressed other than DT, well, that doesn't help. Course even when they've had decent opportunities to bolster the run D, they didn't go all in for it.

Buzzbait said:

I think you're right about the run D, but when you're stuck with picking in the 24th position and you had a couple of serious "needs" to be addressed other than DT, well, that doesn't help. Course even when they've had decent opportunities to bolster the run D, they didn't go all in for it.

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TBH, I don't think they believe the run D needs addressing. IMO you let the draft tell you what positions of need to address first based on who's available or who fell.

Green Bay needed a WR badly. But you didn't see them take one after most of the good ones were gone in the first. They waited and got one later when the round caught up to the available talent.

xwalker said:

Sam Williams played a 4i technique on run downs. Any 260 pound player will not look great in run defense playing that technique.
- If he had played a tradition 4-3 DE (7-tech) vs the run, then he would have been a plus run defender.

They'll have two 320+ DTs on the roster this season. That never happened when Marinelli was the D-Coordinator and I'm not certain if the Cowboys have ever had two 320+ DL for an entire season.

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Thank you so much for not being a surface level thinker only and breaking it down using important variables to consider. It is refreshing.