I would not pay WR's big money

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You couldn’t be more wrong! Patrick Mahomes is the only QB I can come up with that won a SB on his rookie deal. QB salaries keep going up you’re not going to win a championship these days with a low paid QB or low paid players at other key positions. If you have any postseason success with these players they’re going to want to be paid. Tennessee was having some postseason success with AJ Brown and he wanted to be paid.
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You couldn’t be more wrong! Patrick Mahomes is the only QB I can come up with that won a SB on his rookie deal. QB salaries keep going up you’re not going to win a championship these days with a low paid QB or low paid players at other key positions. If you have any postseason success with these players they’re going to want to be paid. Tennessee was having some postseason success with AJ Brown and he wanted to be paid.
The early 2000's Tom Brady
 

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Oh yeah! Sorry

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So far we have Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Kurt Warner, Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes that won Super Bowls on their rookie deal. Anyone who plans on moving on from a young QB after their rookie deal because they haven’t won a Super Bowl is not likely to ever win a SB unless they like working with Powerball odds.
 
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Yes. This is what you get with the salary cap. It's going to be really hard for teams to win super bowls paying a QB 50M a year and a WR 30M a year. It will continue to be teams with QBs on rookie or low paid deals that win SBs. Do you think Tom Brady doesn't know that? His cap hit for this upcoming season is 11.8M.

If CeeDee Lamb plays well this season he needs to be traded for a 1st rounder. The Cowboys don't have the QB, nor do they have the team talent to overcomes ridiculous cap hits from 2 players who aren't even elite status.

Some people on here actually want to discuss Cowboys football. Go start a thread why Dak sux and leave the football conversation to the big boys.
 

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The early 2000's Tom Brady

Let’s not forget Mark Rypien. :thumbup: Jeff Hostetler won a Super Bowl in year six but I don’t think he was on his rookie deal. I believe Terry Bradshaw was on his rookie deal and so was Roger Staubach.
 

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Same reason a secondary is only as good as it’s weakest link.
 

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The last two times the #Eagles signed/traded for a legit Pro-Bowl WR:
2004: Terrell Owens (Made Super Bowl)
2017: Alshon Jeffery (Won Super Bowl)
A.J. Brown was in the Pro Bowl in 2020

Guess it is a passing league after all........while some of our members here want to win with the running game?
I wonder why????

Bro.... Dallas got that same exact receiver in his prime years.
 

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Wide Receivers are becoming like RB's: tons of them come out every year and you can get good ones in the 3rd and 4th round. And unlike 10 years ago, they produce right away, like RB's.

The Packers and Chiefs have figured this out, which is why they got rid of Adams and Hill. It will be interesting to see if the Eagles will come to regret paying Brown.

Unless you get a guy like Chase, I would not be signing WR's to massive deals. That includes Cee Dee Lamb.

Just my opinion
You made a good case for your opinion sir.
With Colleges going with more pro type offences, WR's are more game ready coming out of college than in years past.
 

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Wide Receivers are becoming like RB's: tons of them come out every year and you can get good ones in the 3rd and 4th round. And unlike 10 years ago, they produce right away, like RB's.

The Packers and Chiefs have figured this out, which is why they got rid of Adams and Hill. It will be interesting to see if the Eagles will come to regret paying Brown.

Unless you get a guy like Chase, I would not be signing WR's to massive deals. That includes Cee Dee Lamb.

Just my opinion

It remains to be seen how the trades of Hill, Adams and AJ Brown turn out for the teams in which the WR departed and received premium draft capital.
 

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It’s becoming more risky allowing a productive young QB or WR to play out the final year of their rookie contracts. Teams are having to re-sign these players a year prior or they risk having to franchise them at a high price or lose them in free agency.
 

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But according to some on here, Dallas would not be able to afford big deals because of Dak's contract.
But for other teams, it is because they figured out they don't need too, they can replace them in the draft.

So the same holds true for GB & KC as well. Their QB's got huge contracts, therefore can't afford the player around them.
Dallas dumps Cooper and his contract, sign Gallop for less, draft Tolbert, but yet some on here do not like that, some do.

I do agree, don't give out the huge contracts. Maybe they learned with Zeke, but Dak's it was the going QB rate, though it doesn't make it right.

The problem with this premise is the idea that with extra money Dallas will make decisions which align with the fan thinking of building through free agency. To a man, woman, and child that posts on this site, Jethro and Little Enos couldn't find their rectums with a map and a tour guide. So, the hand wringing about cap space and over paying players ignores the same comments by those same fans who complain about Dallas not being big players in Free Agency.

If those two non-football guys who make the decisions couldn't pick a one horse race winner, then why do you believe with a fist full of sweaty money they will suddenly become Phi Beta Kappa at the M.I.T. of professional football?

If their drafts don't discourage you, I might get it. Maybe.

But everything associated with this team in regard to building a winner suggests they fall short, even when hiring experienced football people to guide them through the difficult days of assembling a championship team.

If they are idiots on one side of the coin (money management), what makes you believe they won't be idiots on the other side (talent acquisition in free agency?)

And even beyond that, does anyone here actually think they will throw what it takes to buy the best in free agency by heaving baskets of money at war daddy's for hire. Even if they had the team on first year contracts and money to burn.

A side note - look at Jerry's comment about Taco and Parsons. Stephen picked Taco and Jerry picked Parsons. Now that was a joke. But the truth is humor is built upon facts. Jerry does believe he was the genius behind Parsons, and ignores the other players he signed off on, because he is the final decision maker, that normally fails like a dumb kid in calculus.
 
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So far we have Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Kurt Warner, Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes that won Super Bowls on their rookie deal. Anyone who plans on moving on from a young QB after their rookie deal because they haven’t won a Super Bowl is not likely to ever win a SB unless they like working with Powerball odds.
Just forgot Ben Rothlisberger.

If you leave out Montana, that's 8 QB's over 30 years. I don't think Brett Favre was on this rookie deal, but he may be #9.

The point is that there is more than one way to skin a cat. There are no guarantees one way or the other
 
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