Pro comp for Sam Williams

Rayman70 · May 7, 2022

Risen Star said:
No. Not even close.

traits. I didnt say he was polished as Suggs yet. He may never, but his build is identical.

RS12 · May 7, 2022

kskboys said:
If you're looking for a bust to compare him to, maybe Charles Tapper.

Lol! Tapper. Another one that got a whole lotta hype and produced nothing.

Rayman70 · May 7, 2022

George Selvie was a power guy at edge..not even the same at all as SW. Totally different styles and traits. SW is a bendy edge guy with power. Selvie was never Bendy and quick.

Risen Star · May 7, 2022

Rayman70 said:
traits. I didnt say he was polished as Suggs yet. He may never, but his build is identical.

Two totally different players. Suggs was nowhere near the athlete Williams is. Williams is nowhere near the natural pass rusher Suggs was.

Rayman70 · May 7, 2022

RS12 said:
Lol! Tapper. Another one that got a whole lotta hype and produced nothing.

that 1 was a Stevie Jones special. lmao...I recall the endless hype.

Rayman70 · May 7, 2022

Risen Star said:
Two totally different players. Suggs was nowhere near the athlete Williams is. Williams is nowhere near the natural pass rusher Suggs was.

we wont know anything really til camp and when the real games begin. purely looking at build, they are identical.

darthseinfeld · May 7, 2022

Robert Quinn

jrumann59 · May 7, 2022

Never understood the Terrell Suggs love in the NFL. I understand the love he got in baltimore but he was an above average playerr that played on a stacked defense. And yet if rounded up averaged 8 sacks a year for his career and less than 1 TFL per game.

Pass2Run · May 7, 2022

Rayman70 said:
we wont know anything really til camp and when the real games begin. purely looking at build, they are identical.

Yep, there were a lot of tweeners with that type of build in this draft.

Nowadays, the NFL is seeing more and more of those kinds of players because they have the athleticism teams covet at other positions now at DE.

Croomraider · May 7, 2022

Comp wise SW might be Dante Fowler Jr.
We should be explosive next year:

Dante Fowler Jr. 6'3 267 4.61 40 time
Sam Williams 6'4 264 4.46 40 time
Micah Parson 6'3 245 4.39 40 time
Demarcus Lawrence 6'3 251 4.80 40 time

Rayman70 · May 7, 2022

Pass2Run said:
Yep, there were a lot of tweeners with that type of build in this draft.

Nowadays, the NFL is seeing more and more of those kinds of players because they have the athleticism teams covet at other positions now at DE.

exactly right

cowboyec · May 7, 2022

according to his spider web graph on mockdraftable...justin smith.

cowboyec · May 7, 2022

Rayman70 said:
George Selvie was a power guy at edge..not even the same at all as SW. Totally different styles and traits. SW is a bendy edge guy with power. Selvie was never Bendy and quick.

he didn't run a 4.46 in the 40 either.

Rayman70 · May 7, 2022

cowboyec said:
according to his spider web graph on mockdraftable...justin smith.

Hmm.. I liked him. He was a nice DE. Wasn't a bendy dude at all however. Just gritty and very driven. He was one of those try hard guys that u HAD to know was comin 110% each down.

Rayman70 · May 7, 2022

cowboyec said:
he didn't run a 4.46 in the 40 either.

Exactly. I should have mentioned that. Glad u caught it. Not sure how anyone can even mention Selvie in the same sentence with him. They couldn't be anymore different. If Selvie was like anyone it was Greg Ellis MAYBE.

cowboyec · May 7, 2022

Rayman70 said:
Hmm.. I liked him. He was a nice DE. Wasn't a bendy dude at all however. Just gritty and very driven. He was one of those try hard guys that u HAD to know was comin 110% each down.

according to that graph...he also compares to jermaine johnson and kayvon thibodeaux.
as long as he puts qbs in the dirt...i dont care who he compares to.
but their comp to justin smith are the various measurables.

cowboyec · May 7, 2022

Rayman70 said:
Exactly. I should have mentioned that. Glad u caught it. Not sure how anyone can even mention Selvie in the same sentence with him. They couldn't be anymore different. If Selvie was like anyone it was Greg Ellis MAYBE.

i liked greg ellis.

Rayman70 · May 7, 2022

darthseinfeld said:
Robert Quinn

hmm Thats a decent 1. I like. Quinn is almost a pure pass rush specialist. He's a quick twitch guy and very bendy. I wish we had kept him. That said, I think SW has more power in him and stronger at the point, will develop into a more well rounded player I think.

Rayman70 · May 7, 2022

cowboyec said:
i liked greg ellis.

Me 2. Dude was steady as Heck.

beware_d-ware · May 7, 2022

So the thing about Sam Williams is that how he was used in college will be nothing like how he will be used in the pros.

Ole Miss ran a weird 3-2 front that lined Williams head-up on a tackle for most of his snaps, sometimes even shaded inside. So squaring up on tackles and trying to fight through them, he does kind of look like a Terrell Suggs-ish power rusher, winning with long-arm moves and upper body strength.

But Quinn is going to line him up wide and ask him to speed rush. He didn't do a ton of that in college, but his measurables and the handful of out-wide snaps he did get show that he could win differently than he did at Ole Miss.

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