News: QB Tiers by Jason La Canfora CBS Sports

MountaineerCowboy · May 9, 2022

atlantacowboy said:
Tier 4 is about right for Dak. I don't understand how Garrapolo isn't on the "can win with" tier with Dak. The guy has literally won more than anyone else on that list.

He don't always have pretty stats.

He just seems to make the right plays and do whatever his teams needs him to do to win.

He threw 8 passes in the NFC championship game a few years ago. How many QBs would be willing to do that? Jimmy G is selfless and it hurts him in these kind of rankings because people are so fixated on pretty stats.

TheMarathonContinues · May 9, 2022

Aerolithe_Lion said:
Dak’s And Watson’s are not the same caliber. My definition of performing is how they play on the field. Watson has been historically prolific in the first 4 seasons of his career. Anything you can say about the Cowboys front office, supporting cast, divisional competition; everything is in Dak’s favor when comparing to Houston. Terrible offensive lines, a front office that is seemingly sabotaging the team, downright negligent coaching, and trading away good players for little to nothing. Yet his accuracy, TD %, QBR, NY/A continually rise to be amongst historically great players. He really is on another level above anything we’ve seen from Dak.

That’s crap but let’s say you are right on your evaluation of Watson. You said Tier 2 is for guys who can perform without talent around them. That is not Watson. You are back peddling now. You are giving him credit for putting up empty stats behind a bad line lol.

Aerolithe_Lion · May 9, 2022

TheMarathonContinues said:
That’s crap but let’s say you are right on your evaluation of Watson. You said Tier 2 is for guys who can perform without talent around them. That is not Watson. You are back peddling now. You are giving him credit for putting up empty stats behind a bad line lol.

That IS Watson. He has performed at all time standards while he team has repeatedly removed the talent around him. I have back pedaled nothing, that is the very reason he is tier 2.

And his stats are not empty

TNCowboy · May 9, 2022

ChronicCowboy said:
I don’t get the Lamar Jackson love. He seems to hold the Ravens back a little bit. Other than that I totally agree with the assessment. I’d take Dak over Matt Ryan but I’d probably take Murray and Mac Jones over Dak.

Jackson can't consistently get the ball to WRs downfield. Teams caught on to their TE-centric offense/QB RPO and they started to struggle.

But before last season, they were putting up points, and winning games. He was a career 30-7 before 2021. That's Brady or Manning-esque. Then teams started to figure out Harbaugh's smoke and mirrors and Jackson and his offense were mostly exposed for what they are, average. Other than Mark Andrews, who's a beast.

TheMarathonContinues · May 9, 2022

Aerolithe_Lion said:
That IS Watson. He has performed at all time standards while he team has repeatedly removed the talent around him. I have back pedaled nothing, that is the very reason he is tier 2.

And his stats are not empty

He’s spent the majority of his career with the best receiver in the league lol. What are you talking about they removed talent? His stats are empty in 2020…how are Dak’s stats padded but his isn’t?

Aerolithe_Lion · May 9, 2022

TheMarathonContinues said:
He’s spent the majority of his career with the best receiver in the league lol. What are you talking about they removed talent? His stats are empty in 2020…how are Dak’s stats padded but his isn’t?

I have no idea how Dak’s stats are padded and his aren’t. If I did I would have said that.

He did have the best receiver in the league for most of his career. And when he lost him he was even better.

TheMarathonContinues · May 9, 2022

Aerolithe_Lion said:
I have no idea how Dak’s stats are padded and his aren’t. If I did I would have said that.

He did have the best receiver in the league for most of his career. And when he lost him he was even better.

He lost him and his team coincidentally went 4-12....Let's also dig a little deeper into this historically great 2020 season you keep bragging about....

Watson's best games that year came against the Jaguars, Titans game that he lost twice, Patriots(trash), the Lions(mud butt), Bengals(Basura).......

Congrats....he beat up some crap to boost his stats.

Played the Ravens 275 yards for 1 TD and 1 INT,
played the Chiefs....1 TD and 1 INT for 253 yards,
played PITT 264 yards 1 TD and 1 pick, 163 Yards and
played the Browns 1 TD and 1 Pick

......LEGEND

The Fonz · May 9, 2022

Dak should be in
Tier 6: Good Luck

Aerolithe_Lion · May 9, 2022

TheMarathonContinues said:
He lost him and his team coincidentally went 4-12....Let's also dig a little deeper into this historically great 2020 season you keep bragging about....

Watson's best games that year came against the Jaguars, Titans game that he lost twice, Patriots(trash), the Lions(mud butt), Bengals(Basura).......

Congrats....he beat up some crap to boost his stats.

Played the Ravens 275 yards for 1 TD and 1 INT,
played the Chiefs....1 TD and 1 INT for 253 yards,
played PITT 264 yards 1 TD and 1 pick, 163 Yards and
played the Browns 1 TD and 1 Pick

......LEGEND

Hyperbole aside, even against those teams listed he performed at a level we’ve never seen before. Let’s see how he upscale with Cleveland’s talent bump

Mk2_Cowboys · May 9, 2022

I know more than La Canfora about nfl qbs. That’s like saying. “ my mailman says …” about QBs.

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