News: Mayfield or Dak

bigE79 · May 11, 2022

cowboybish said:
If we could bring Mayfield in to compete with Dak would you be for it or no? https://www.audacy.com/cbssportsrad...liQKcJrUQtuB3Do5o0MPK2F1R6Fk_8T_KT8BkvaaR1IkE

Nope,we already have the black kurt cousins,we don't need the white dak Prescott.

KJJ · May 11, 2022

Big_D said:
4 years, 4 head coaches much tougher division and still has the same amount of playoff wins as Dak in 6 years! lol And it was a division win on the road.

So what are you saying you would rather have Mayfield as our QB? Nobody wants him. Lol

Big_D · May 11, 2022

KJJ said:
So what are you saying you would rather have Mayfield as our QB? Nobody wants him. Lol

I’m saying this talk that Dak is far superior is laughable! Teams would be willing but Cleveland isn’t just going to release him outright or trade him since Watson will likely miss an extended period of time. If he was available, he’d be signed.

DandyDon52 · May 11, 2022

phildadon86 said:
LOL wasnt that 50 yard play a screen pass? And Beckham made an amazing move? yeah. BAKER WON THE GAME lol laughable. So who won the Seattle playoff game? I heard here it was the defense and Zeke.

it was still a pass ! again look at the bottom line, it went for game sealing td. Baker threw the pass, got it to him etc.

No one player wins a game unless it is just some great play at end of game.

As for the seattle game, again that was years ago and I dont remember much of that. would have to watch it again.
I heard here it was the defense and Zeke....... that is only what some here would say, it isnt everyone here.

Bottom line is dak has played in 4 playoff games and is 1-3 , that isnt good, anyway you spin it.
It isnt all on him as dallas is usually out coached in playoff games too. Other players dont step up for most part.
Dak isnt a bad qb, he is just limited and inconsistent. He also isnt that smart when on the field, off the field he is very smart.

I think you are a big dak fan, trying to defend his lack of success, but some of us are tired of the dak era, and would like to
move on to the next guy....next man up lets go!

But jerry likes dak too, lol he will keep him as starter for another 6 years minimum .
Funny thing is in his first 6 years dak has won 1 playoff game, if that holds true, then in next 6 years he should win another one !

KJJ · May 11, 2022

Big_D said:
I’m saying this talk that Dak is far superior is laughable! Teams would be willing but Cleveland isn’t just going to release him outright or trade him since Watson will likely miss an extended period of time. If he was available, he’d be signed.

Dak is far superior go compare their stats and winning percentage. Get real! It could be argued that the 2020 Cleveland Browns were better than any of the teams Dak had. The Browns mowed over the Cowboys in 2020. They had a terrific two headed monster at RB and one of the top OL’s in the league. They had a solid receiving corp that featured OBJ for part of that season. Despite all the talent that team had Mayfield still put up weak numbers. Teams haven’t been willing to trade for him it’s been reported. No one wants to take on his $18 million salary to be a backup and no one sees him as a starter. After Cleveland made the trade for Watson he threw his teammates under the bus.

He doesn’t want to be in Cleveland anymore and only losing all his money will get him to start for the Browns if Watson is suspended. It’s going to be a bad situation having him replace Watson knowing he’ll be benched when he returns. It’s going to create friction in the locker room. I’ll be surprised if he agrees to sub for Deshaun Watson until he returns. The money he’ll be losing is the only thing that will make him do it. The Browns are desperate to get rid of him to avoid the dilemma. He’s a very inconsistent QB who lacks leadership.

blueblood70 · May 11, 2022

KJJ said:
Dak is far superior go compare their stats and winning percentage. Get real! It could be argued that the 2020 Cleveland Browns were better than any of the teams Dak had. The Browns mowed over the Cowboys in 2020. They had a terrific two headed monster at RB and one of the top OL’s in the league. They had a solid receiving corp that featured OBJ for part of that season. Despite all the talent that team had Mayfield still put up weak numbers. Teams haven’t been willing to trade for him it’s been reported. No one wants to take on his $18 million salary to be a backup and no one sees him as a starter. After Cleveland made the trade for Watson he threw his teammates under the bus.

He doesn’t want to be in Cleveland anymore and only losing all his money will get him to start for the Browns if Watson is suspended. It’s going to be a bad situation having him replace Watson knowing he’ll be benched when he returns. It’s going to create friction in the locker room. I’ll be surprised if he agrees to sub for Deshaun Watson until he returns. The money he’ll be losing is the only thing that will make him do it. The Browns are desperate to get rid of him to avoid the dilemma. He’s a very inconsistent QB who lacks leadership.

but BM is not the backup, qb3 status TBD

they brought in a backup..thats the deeper sting i mean if DW cant start its Brissett and they also have Dobbs etc..BM is all but gone its to who and for how much.Most likely a small draft pick 4th/5th plus BM restructuring his deal to say 2 years at 18 with only 9 guaranteed so its one year 9mil deal either as backup or possible starter on team who has an injury.

blueblood70 · May 11, 2022

Big_D said:
I’m saying this talk that Dak is far superior is laughable! Teams would be willing but Cleveland isn’t just going to release him outright or trade him since Watson will likely miss an extended period of time. If he was available, he’d be signed.

sorry but BM is not the B/U if DW is suspended too much locker room drama etc it would be Brisset with dobbs backing him up.BM is just status TBD

phildadon86 · May 11, 2022

DandyDon52 said:
it was still a pass ! again look at the bottom line, it went for game sealing td. Baker threw the pass, got it to him etc.

No one player wins a game unless it is just some great play at end of game.

As for the seattle game, again that was years ago and I dont remember much of that. would have to watch it again.
I heard here it was the defense and Zeke....... that is only what some here would say, it isnt everyone here.

Bottom line is dak has played in 4 playoff games and is 1-3 , that isnt good, anyway you spin it.
It isnt all on him as dallas is usually out coached in playoff games too. Other players dont step up for most part.
Dak isnt a bad qb, he is just limited and inconsistent. He also isnt that smart when on the field, off the field he is very smart.

I think you are a big dak fan, trying to defend his lack of success, but some of us are tired of the dak era, and would like to
move on to the next guy....next man up lets go!

But jerry likes dak too, lol he will keep him as starter for another 6 years minimum .
Funny thing is in his first 6 years dak has won 1 playoff game, if that holds true, then in next 6 years he should win another one !

Lol yeah a screen pass laterally but baker gets the credit. I’m actually a cowboys fan and I think Dak is meh. I was high on him last season until the second half of it. Don’t act like you know me. But giving baker credit for a freaking screen pass that went for a TD? I guess all of daks passes to Zeke and pollard all count as big plays by him as well. If you go see my post history I’ve been very critical of this team since San Fran and I hated their draft. I went as far as to say I hope they go 0-17 because then we may actually see some real change.
That dark era you refer too has been present long before Dak even got drafted. The one to blame isn’t behind center he’s up on the press box gettting hammered every Sunday.

KJJ · May 11, 2022

I’ll promise you anyone who’s picking Mayfield over Dak is just looking for a reaction. They just show up in these threads to stir things up.

Whyjerry · May 11, 2022

First off Baker gets paid too much. Secondly Baker sent that good. Third Baker is a cancer. Why just why?

Jake · May 11, 2022

cowboybish said:
If we could bring Mayfield in to compete with Dak would you be for it or no? https://www.audacy.com/cbssportsrad...liQKcJrUQtuB3Do5o0MPK2F1R6Fk_8T_KT8BkvaaR1IkE

If you think Mayfield would be an upgrade over Dak then you haven't been paying much attention to Mayfield's antics in Cleveland.

Forget about Oklahoma, forget his draft status, he's not lived up to it and thinks far too much of himself.

Redsfan_83 · May 11, 2022

AmericasTeam81 said:
Which QB makes better commercials?

Baker 100%

atlantacowboy · May 12, 2022

We can't afford to pay Mayfield and Dak. Personally, I'd like to see us swap out QBs and see what Mayfield could do in Dallas, since I've already seen what Dak can do.

G2 · May 12, 2022

Big_D said:
4 years, 4 head coaches much tougher division and still has the same amount of playoff wins as Dak in 6 years! lol And it was a division win on the road.

Team stat?

atlantacowboy · May 12, 2022

KJJ said:
Dak is far superior go compare their stats and winning percentage. Get real! It could be argued that the 2020 Cleveland Browns were better than any of the teams Dak had. The Browns mowed over the Cowboys in 2020. They had a terrific two headed monster at RB and one of the top OL’s in the league. They had a solid receiving corp that featured OBJ for part of that season. Despite all the talent that team had Mayfield still put up weak numbers. Teams haven’t been willing to trade for him it’s been reported. No one wants to take on his $18 million salary to be a backup and no one sees him as a starter. After Cleveland made the trade for Watson he threw his teammates under the bus.

He doesn’t want to be in Cleveland anymore and only losing all his money will get him to start for the Browns if Watson is suspended. It’s going to be a bad situation having him replace Watson knowing he’ll be benched when he returns. It’s going to create friction in the locker room. I’ll be surprised if he agrees to sub for Deshaun Watson until he returns. The money he’ll be losing is the only thing that will make him do it. The Browns are desperate to get rid of him to avoid the dilemma. He’s a very inconsistent QB who lacks leadership.

The Browns desperation is actually a big reason they can't trade him. The root of the problem with Mayfield in Cleveland was his relationship with OBJ and then Jarvis Landry......... both LSU diva WRs who basically ganged on him. Baker hasn't done or said anything to merit the pariah treatment he's being given in Cleveland. The worst thing he said was that he wanted to be traded. But, the league isn't going to do the Browns a favor and rescue them with draft picks for a player they don't want, and will likely release if they can't trade him.

Baker didn't have a poor 2021 season. It was just very inconsistent with flashes of brilliance mixed in with poor play. He will get a second chance somewhere and I wouldn't bet against him doing a lot better.

Big_D · May 12, 2022

G2 said:
Team stat?

ofcourse it’s a team stat. But this team is the Cleveland Browns. The garbage Cowboys fans use to make themselves feel better. Along with teams like the Jets and Jacksonville. Browns went 0-16 the year before he got there and haven’t won a playoff game since 94. Cleveland is just a well run organization!

KJJ · May 12, 2022

atlantacowboy said:
The Browns desperation is actually a big reason they can't trade him. The root of the problem with Mayfield in Cleveland was his relationship with OBJ and then Jarvis Landry......... both LSU diva WRs who basically ganged on him. Baker hasn't done or said anything to merit the pariah treatment he's being given in Cleveland. The worst thing he said was that he wanted to be traded. But, the league isn't going to do the Browns a favor and rescue them with draft picks for a player they don't want, and will likely release if they can't trade him.

Baker didn't have a poor 2021 season. It was just very inconsistent with flashes of brilliance mixed in with poor play. He will get a second chance somewhere and I wouldn't bet against him doing a lot better.

You must not have heard Mayfield throw his teammates under the bus and act like he’s a victim. His comments were dissected on NFL Network several weeks ago. He was criticized by everyone on the panel including former GM Scott Pioli. There’s several interviews with Mayfield pointing the finger at teammates and claiming the Browns lied to him. Nobody wants him because of his $18 million salary, inconsistent play and the way he was throwing everyone under the bus in Cleveland.

You need to watch his interviews, it turned a lot of people off. He’s not a leader and doesn’t know how to handle difficult situations. He headed to the lockerroom during a game last season. He’s a finger pointer! He’s been very inconsistent as a player his entire career. You can’t win with a QB who’s consistently up and down. I haven’t seen anyone who gets paid to talk football defending Mayfield.

Jake · May 12, 2022

SpaceCowboy99 said:
I would take jimmy g or baker over Dak in a heartbeat. I would actually pay to go to games again if there was a QB I liked on the team.

And you would deserve to have Jerry steal your money. Dak is Dak, but neither of those guys are an improvement.

Jake · May 12, 2022

DandyDon52 said:
he beat the cowboys and dak last time they played

It is true, that jimmy G and baker, and foles would all want to start,
and no way would jones boys bring any of them here, but it would be fun and interesting if they did come here.
If I were them I might take the bkup role for 1 year deal just to rest up and wait for good
opportunity elsewhere, or if dak cant play, you get a chance to show what you can do.

What if foles came here and near end of season dak gets hurt and foles takes over??
then he leads team to SB win, and jerry releases him next season as they prefer dak.

I've seen some really lazy takes on this board, but this one is five star. Well done, but not in a good way. :clap:

kskboys · May 13, 2022

KJJ said:
You must not have heard Mayfield throw his teammates under the bus and act like he’s a victim. His comments were dissected on NFL Network several weeks ago. He was criticized by everyone on the panel including former GM Scott Pioli. There’s several interviews with Mayfield pointing the finger at teammates and claiming the Browns lied to him. Nobody wants him because of his $18 million salary, inconsistent play and the way he was throwing everyone under the bus in Cleveland.

You need to watch his interviews, it turned a lot of people off. He’s not a leader and doesn’t know how to handle difficult situations. He headed to the lockerroom during a game last season. He’s a finger pointer! He’s been very inconsistent as a player his entire career. You can’t win with a QB who’s consistently up and down. I haven’t seen anyone who gets paid to talk football defending Mayfield.

Mayfield is a poor man's Rex Grossman. Dude could only win 10 games on an absolutely loaded team.

CLEV's D was 5th. O was 18th. And that was mostly due to stellar running by Chubb and Hunt. Passing game was 27th.

At this point, anyone who doesn't know Baker is being carried by that team just needs to turn in their football card and take up a different sport!!!!

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