CFZ The Cowboys record with and without Tyron Smith

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We all know what a great player Tyron Smith has been for this team. Before his injuries hit, Smith was probably headed to Canton and in my mind was absolutely the best player on this team from 2011-2016.

But his injuries have become a consistent problem. The 2015 season was the year he was healthy a complete season, and he has missed 32 games since 2016.

How important has Tyron Smith been for this team? Here are the team’s records with/without #77:
  • With Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 81-63. (.563)
  • Without Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 17-15. (.515)
With a healthy Tyron Smith, this team is a very good offense that can compete with anyone. Without him, it’s barely .500.

Which raises the question, Why does this front office still pretend they can get quality years out of Smith? It’s a risk that makes crystal clear the dangers of your front office having a “best case scenario” outlook instead of being prepared for what happens when he’s not here. Hey, I hope Tyron is here all season and plays great. But hope is not a strategy for winning.

Maybe they did address it with the drafting of Tyler Smith. We will see. It’s certainly one of the keys to our success this season and maybe the near future as well.
 

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We all know what a great player Tyron Smith has been for this team. Before his injuries hit, Smith was probably headed to Canton and in my mind was absolutely the best player on this team from 2011-2016.

But his injuries have become a consistent problem. The 2015 season was the year he was healthy a complete season, and he has missed 32 games since 2016.

How important has Tyron Smith been for this team? Here are the team’s records with/without #77:
  • With Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 81-63. (.563)
  • Without Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 17-15. (.515)
With a healthy Tyron Smith, this team is a very good offense that can compete with anyone. Without him, it’s barely .500.

Which raises the question, Why does this front office still pretend they can get quality years out of Smith? It’s a risk that makes crystal clear the dangers of your front office having a “best case scenario” outlook instead of being prepared for what happens when he’s not here. Hey, I hope Tyron is here all season and plays great. But hope is not a strategy for winning.

Maybe they did address it with the drafting of Tyler Smith. We will see. It’s certainly one of the keys to our success this season and maybe the near future as well.
I think you answered your own question on this one Bob.

They ARE that much better with Tyron, and thats why they continue to hope/count on him. Dont discount exactly how much hope is actually a plan in Dallas, much like fans think. Then I realize the guys running the team are fans who happen to own it.

Tyrons eventual replacement is most likely a first round pick the year AFTER LT is such a disaster that it ruins a season.....that's how problems are handled....as reactionary.

Meanwhile they gamble on longshots. Hey, maybe they eventually hit on a Ball/Waletzko. As a fan, I certainly HOPE they do.
 

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Smith is guaranteed to miss 25% of the season, if not more. We drafted a guy they envisioned playing LT. I'm more so worried about who we plug in at LG once Smith inevitably misses 1/4 the season.
 

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Smith is guaranteed to miss 25% of the season, if not more. We drafted a guy they envisioned playing LT. I'm more so worried about who we plug in at LG once Smith inevitably misses 1/4 the season.
He will Miss 25% and then be at 60% for another 25%.

And that 60% stretch will be at the end of the season.

time to move on.
 

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We all know what a great player Tyron Smith has been for this team. Before his injuries hit, Smith was probably headed to Canton and in my mind was absolutely the best player on this team from 2011-2016.

But his injuries have become a consistent problem. The 2015 season was the year he was healthy a complete season, and he has missed 32 games since 2016.

How important has Tyron Smith been for this team? Here are the team’s records with/without #77:
  • With Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 81-63. (.563)
  • Without Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 17-15. (.515)
With a healthy Tyron Smith, this team is a very good offense that can compete with anyone. Without him, it’s barely .500.

Which raises the question, Why does this front office still pretend they can get quality years out of Smith? It’s a risk that makes crystal clear the dangers of your front office having a “best case scenario” outlook instead of being prepared for what happens when he’s not here. Hey, I hope Tyron is here all season and plays great. But hope is not a strategy for winning.

Maybe they did address it with the drafting of Tyler Smith. We will see. It’s certainly one of the keys to our success this season and maybe the near future as well.
Always questioning the FO.....never gets old! :facepalm:
 

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We all know what a great player Tyron Smith has been for this team. Before his injuries hit, Smith was probably headed to Canton and in my mind was absolutely the best player on this team from 2011-2016.

But his injuries have become a consistent problem. The 2015 season was the year he was healthy a complete season, and he has missed 32 games since 2016.

How important has Tyron Smith been for this team? Here are the team’s records with/without #77:
  • With Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 81-63. (.563)
  • Without Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 17-15. (.515)
With a healthy Tyron Smith, this team is a very good offense that can compete with anyone. Without him, it’s barely .500.

Which raises the question, Why does this front office still pretend they can get quality years out of Smith? It’s a risk that makes crystal clear the dangers of your front office having a “best case scenario” outlook instead of being prepared for what happens when he’s not here. Hey, I hope Tyron is here all season and plays great. But hope is not a strategy for winning.

Maybe they did address it with the drafting of Tyler Smith. We will see. It’s certainly one of the keys to our success this season and maybe the near future as well.
I’m impressed we are over .500 without him. Last year must have put us over that hump.
 

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So, what do we do when Tyron is out. Do we move Tyler over or does our left side become completely vulnerable? Our left side could very well dictate how our season goes.
 

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Dallas has three players in the pipeline to replace Smith in the future, Ball, Waletzco, and Smith.

Hopefully Smith has one more year in him. I'm talking getting 10 to 12 starts and the others pick up the other games.

We'll see in training camp how the tackles develop and go from there.
 

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We all know what a great player Tyron Smith has been for this team. Before his injuries hit, Smith was probably headed to Canton and in my mind was absolutely the best player on this team from 2011-2016.

But his injuries have become a consistent problem. The 2015 season was the year he was healthy a complete season, and he has missed 32 games since 2016.

How important has Tyron Smith been for this team? Here are the team’s records with/without #77:
  • With Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 81-63. (.563)
  • Without Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 17-15. (.515)
With a healthy Tyron Smith, this team is a very good offense that can compete with anyone. Without him, it’s barely .500.

Which raises the question, Why does this front office still pretend they can get quality years out of Smith? It’s a risk that makes crystal clear the dangers of your front office having a “best case scenario” outlook instead of being prepared for what happens when he’s not here. Hey, I hope Tyron is here all season and plays great. But hope is not a strategy for winning.

Maybe they did address it with the drafting of Tyler Smith. We will see. It’s certainly one of the keys to our success this season and maybe the near future as well.
 

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Take away another "possible" generational talent stroke of luck with Micah last year and you probably can find my multiple strong opinions on the importance of a need for drafting a highly pedigreed Left Tackle.
Again, this was from last year discussions for me.

Its a pretty important position.

Maybe Tyler Smith IS the answer.

All I can do, as with you and the rest Bob, is hope as well.
 

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The other way of looking at it…17 games over .500 with him vs 2 games over .500 without him.
But that’s by sheer numbers . The percentage is really the telling story. And honestly BH , it’s not as much a differential as you’d think. I was certainly surprised .
 

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We all know what a great player Tyron Smith has been for this team. Before his injuries hit, Smith was probably headed to Canton and in my mind was absolutely the best player on this team from 2011-2016.

But his injuries have become a consistent problem. The 2015 season was the year he was healthy a complete season, and he has missed 32 games since 2016.

How important has Tyron Smith been for this team? Here are the team’s records with/without #77:
  • With Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 81-63. (.563)
  • Without Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 17-15. (.515)
With a healthy Tyron Smith, this team is a very good offense that can compete with anyone. Without him, it’s barely .500.

Which raises the question, Why does this front office still pretend they can get quality years out of Smith? It’s a risk that makes crystal clear the dangers of your front office having a “best case scenario” outlook instead of being prepared for what happens when he’s not here. Hey, I hope Tyron is here all season and plays great. But hope is not a strategy for winning.

Maybe they did address it with the drafting of Tyler Smith. We will see. It’s certainly one of the keys to our success this season and maybe the near future as well.
True, hope is not a successful strategy.
 

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We all know what a great player Tyron Smith has been for this team. Before his injuries hit, Smith was probably headed to Canton and in my mind was absolutely the best player on this team from 2011-2016.

But his injuries have become a consistent problem. The 2015 season was the year he was healthy a complete season, and he has missed 32 games since 2016.

How important has Tyron Smith been for this team? Here are the team’s records with/without #77:
  • With Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 81-63. (.563)
  • Without Tyron Smith playing, the Cowboys are 17-15. (.515)
With a healthy Tyron Smith, this team is a very good offense that can compete with anyone. Without him, it’s barely .500.

Which raises the question, Why does this front office still pretend they can get quality years out of Smith? It’s a risk that makes crystal clear the dangers of your front office having a “best case scenario” outlook instead of being prepared for what happens when he’s not here. Hey, I hope Tyron is here all season and plays great. But hope is not a strategy for winning.

Maybe they did address it with the drafting of Tyler Smith. We will see. It’s certainly one of the keys to our success this season and maybe the near future as well.
They just used a first round pick on a tackle
I don’t get the issue
 
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