When was it that you lost faith in Moore as OC?

CowboyRoy · May 31, 2022

America's Cowboy said:
Why Sean Payton? He ran the same Offense Garrett ran in Dallas for over 10 seasons.

Yah, Im not going to agree on that one. Payton has the ability to adjust and do anything in the book he needs to. Heck he had his backup QB playing TE, FB, and running out of the wishbone.

grgnfg420 · May 31, 2022

Denver game

JBS · May 31, 2022

America's Cowboy said:
One can't do much offensively when your Oline is crap which affects the running and passing game.

I blame Oline Coach Joe Philbin for the woes of this Offense than I do O-Coordinator Kellen Moore.

Plenty of teams have far bigger issues on the OL and they do just fine scoring points

fivetwos · May 31, 2022

Diehardblues said:
I think you’re under estimating the influence and meddling from Jethro .

Thays exactly why he has a puppet like Moore in place, and why he always wants to have at least one coordinator as his guy.

MM is only there to stand on the sidelines because Jerry can't get away with that.

America's Cowboy · May 31, 2022

JBS said:
Plenty of teams have far bigger issues on the OL and they do just fine scoring points

Really? Name them, especially during the playoffs.

I'll wait...

Risen Star · May 31, 2022

When I saw Dak Prescott was his quarterback.

Cowboy4ever · May 31, 2022

Moore is fine. Not the genius he was touted to be but he is fine. The O struggled for 3 reasons- our backs were injured, they experimented with the o line mid season and it didn’t work and the QB went in the tank. We can hope the first two don’t happen this year. The third is a given.

JBS · May 31, 2022

America's Cowboy said:
Really? Name them, especially during the playoffs.

I'll wait...

During the playoffs what? Dallas stopped scoring months before the playoffs began.

so be it. How about the bengals? Let’s start there….der

Diehardblues · May 31, 2022

America's Cowboy said:
True, but who is to say McCarthy has not had a say or included some of his offensive and overall team philosophy?

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...big-boy-draft-message-tyler-smith-jerry-jones

What evidence do we have that MM has inserted his offense ?

Diehardblues · May 31, 2022

CowboyRoy said:
No I just know your MO is to blame every little thing on Jerry. And also turn every conversation into a Jerry sucks chat.

Lets just get it out there again. Jerry sucks. Im still not letting Moore off the hook for the Zeke/Pollard debacle.

The local media was all over this when it unfolded after MM stated he wanted to rest Zeke.

I’m not sure why you didn’t see or hear all of the buzz around this as it was unfolding.

Not every single thing is Jethro’s fault but he was clearly involved with the decision on Elliott.

CowboyRoy · May 31, 2022

Diehardblues said:
The local media was all over this when it unfolded after MM stated he wanted to rest Zeke.

I’m not sure why you didn’t see or hear all of the buzz around this as it was unfolding.

Not every single thing is Jethro’s fault but he was clearly involved with the decision on Elliott.

You clearly dont read so well. I stated point blank that I know Jerry was demanding it.

Again you argue with made up people about made up things. When the reality is that everyone agrees.

DanA · May 31, 2022

CowboyRoy said:
Moore was a breath of fresh air in the beginning. The passing game immediately went to the next level after Garrett left and Moore was able to open things up. In 2020 the Cowboys had a record breaking offense before Dak went down at 32 points per game. Even last year despite the inconsistent 2nd half they had the #1 scoring offense in the NFL at 30 points per game and the #1 passing game in the NFL yardage wise.

But for me personally it was the 2nd half of the season when teams made some adjustments and he failed to adjust himself. Now granted the Oline went in the toilet and Zeke got hurt which killed the run game. But once teams went into the two deep zone Moore went into a shell. He couldnt seem to adjust to that. Things got basic again. And the fact that he had the perfect opportunity to bench Zeke for the more dynamic Pollard and didnt, that was it for me.

Is there any hope that he learns from his inexperience and blossoms going forward or is he done?

I agree it was 2nd half of the season and for me, it’s about the pattern.

Three seasons in a row under Moore the offense has come out looking brilliant the first few weeks but by mid-season defenses have adjusted to what we are doing and are baiting Dak into the plays they want while Moore seemingly changes nothing.

Diehardblues · May 31, 2022

CowboyRoy said:
You clearly dont read so well. I stated point blank that I know Jerry was demanding it.

Again you argue with made up people about made up things. When the reality is that everyone agrees.

Then why do you want to hold Moore responsible ?

America's Cowboy · May 31, 2022

JBS said:
During the playoffs what? Dallas stopped scoring months before the playoffs began.

so be it. How about the bengals? Let’s start there….der

Name the games then!

CowboyRoy · May 31, 2022

DanA said:
I agree it was 2nd half of the season and for me, it’s about the pattern.

Three seasons in a row under Moore the offense has come out looking brilliant the first few weeks but by mid-season defenses have adjusted to what we are doing and are baiting Dak into the plays they want while Moore seemingly changes nothing.

Agreed. Although I would point out that Dalton was the reason for the fallout in 2020.

CowboyRoy · May 31, 2022

Diehardblues said:
Then why do you want to hold Moore responsible ?

I think you should just go reread the whole conversation buddy. Your brain seems to get stuck sometimes.

BHendri5 · May 31, 2022

CowboyRoy said:
Moore was a breath of fresh air in the beginning. The passing game immediately went to the next level after Garrett left and Moore was able to open things up. In 2020 the Cowboys had a record breaking offense before Dak went down at 32 points per game. Even last year despite the inconsistent 2nd half they had the #1 scoring offense in the NFL at 30 points per game and the #1 passing game in the NFL yardage wise.

But for me personally it was the 2nd half of the season when teams made some adjustments and he failed to adjust himself. Now granted the Oline went in the toilet and Zeke got hurt which killed the run game. But once teams went into the two deep zone Moore went into a shell. He couldnt seem to adjust to that. Things got basic again. And the fact that he had the perfect opportunity to bench Zeke for the more dynamic Pollard and didnt, that was it for me.

Is there any hope that he learns from his inexperience and blossoms going forward or is he done?

America's Cowboy · May 31, 2022

Diehardblues said:
What evidence do we have that MM has inserted his offense ?

What evidence do you have that McCarthy hasn't?

If you and so many others had done some recent research, you would know how McCarthy said 2 months ago how the Offense will have much of his 30 year offense experience included. McCarthy explains that in the first 2+ minutes in this video...

BHendri5 · May 31, 2022

I lost faith the very first game he called plays

CowboyRoy · May 31, 2022

America's Cowboy said:
What evidence do you have that McCarthy hasn't?

If you and so many others had done some recent research, you would know how McCarthy said 2 months ago how the Offense will have much of his 30 year offense experience included. McCarthy explains that in the first 2+ minutes in this video...

So I watched the video and I didnt hear anything about it. I heard him say "its a priority for him", but what is a priority? You cant hear the questions.

When was it that you lost faith in Moore as OC?

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