CFZ Can Moore & Dak adjust to the way teams defending them?

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all teams do is put both linebackers in the a gap for a blitz then back off and Dallas has trouble with it....

run a draw play.....throw it under the coverage in the middle when the LBs bail out itll be open every time for a 7 yard gain
 

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-Played extra men in coverage, with two safeties back. His goal was to take away the big passing plays and force Dak to throw into tight windows.
And we waved goodbye to our best WR. Best at getting separation, by far.
 

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Last season was a tale of two separate offenses, one in the beginning of the year that was considered elite and the other one after the Patriots game that was considered average at best. Certainly, there are many factors, but the way Denver devised a plan to defend our offense was the blueprint.

In the early going, teams were stacking the line and taking trying to take away the team's rushing attack, but Fangio, the Denver HC, did the opposite;

-Played extra men in coverage, with two safeties back. His goal was to take away the big passing plays and force Dak to throw into tight windows. Dak had one of his worse games of the season as it was his first game back after injuring his calf.

Other teams followed a similar game plan and had success just like the Broncos did. Force Dak to be patient and throw passes into tight windows. What compounded the offensive struggles was their inability to run the football in light boxes, but also their inability to stay away from the big drive killing penalties. Take away the big play, force the Cowboys to drive the entire field, they will beat themselves. Also, Dak was clearly still hurt and was unwilling to use his legs when his receivers failed to get open.

We saw a similar blueprint against Mahomes and the Chiefs, that really held their elite offense in check. It really took them a lot of time to adjust and they still showed their warts in the playoffs.

Will Dak and Kellen Moore be able to make the necessary adjustments to bring this offense from being average back to elite standards?
It was really just 3 games plus the playoff game.

Denver
KC
AZ
SF

They did't even try to run in the playoff game. Most runs were on short yardage plays.

They have to be able to run or they'll have those Denver kind of games.

I re-watched the playoff game this morning.

They should have started Steele. Collins was not good. Tyron's ankle must have been far from 100%. He struggled with inside redirects repeatedly.

Connor Williams had his 3 major bad plays. He was ok most if the time but when he fails it's a big time fail.

TEs were part of the blocking problem also.

The score makes it look like the defense was good but the Niners were up early in the game which I think added to the Cowboys offense not running the ball.

Side Note:
There was a delay of game call that I can't understand. It was after they converted on a fake punt play. There were 4 seconds on the play clock when the ref spotted the ball. The ball carrier had gone out of bounds.

Health is the key for 2022. They have enough talent.
 

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Last season was a tale of two separate offenses, one in the beginning of the year that was considered elite and the other one after the Patriots game that was considered average at best. Certainly, there are many factors, but the way Denver devised a plan to defend our offense was the blueprint.

In the early going, teams were stacking the line and taking trying to take away the team's rushing attack, but Fangio, the Denver HC, did the opposite;

-Played extra men in coverage, with two safeties back. His goal was to take away the big passing plays and force Dak to throw into tight windows. Dak had one of his worse games of the season as it was his first game back after injuring his calf.

Other teams followed a similar game plan and had success just like the Broncos did. Force Dak to be patient and throw passes into tight windows. What compounded the offensive struggles was their inability to run the football in light boxes, but also their inability to stay away from the big drive killing penalties. Take away the big play, force the Cowboys to drive the entire field, they will beat themselves. Also, Dak was clearly still hurt and was unwilling to use his legs when his receivers failed to get open.

We saw a similar blueprint against Mahomes and the Chiefs, that really held their elite offense in check. It really took them a lot of time to adjust and they still showed their warts in the playoffs.

Will Dak and Kellen Moore be able to make the necessary adjustments to bring this offense from being average back to elite standards?
This is a fair assessment of what happened to our offense the 2nd half of the season.

I would just add that the Cowboys offense became incredibly predictable when they were one dimensional.

I believe the Cowboys recognized these issues and took steps to try and fix them, perhaps not how most on this forum would have approached it.

1. They got rid of the undisciplined. CW, Collins and Cooper was undisciplined in his effort and route running. Yes route running. Believe it or not, Steele is an upgrade in the run game at RT too...regardless of what the idiotic PFF says.

2. They aimed to get better up front adding a very physical G/T. They tried to add more of a deep threat at WR with Washington and more of a disciplined route runner in Tolbert. He probably won't be the dynamic route runner that Coop is/was but he will be where he needs to be and give effort at all times.

3. They added a blocking/good passing threat at back up TE. We were really hurt by not having Jarwin last year bc it limited what we could do in 12 personnel. While he wasn't a blocker either he was a threat in the pass game. This formation seemed to make us less predictable as well.

4. Dak will be healthy this year and another year removed from the broken leg. Anyone who doesn't think that helps, never had to play a game after a significant injury.

5. Taking away a 20 mill wr let's us focus on Ceedee as a #1 and force him the ball more. I believe that was also part of the equation they used in getting rid of coop as well. He will never have Kupp type targets but 150 isn't out of the question this year. This is something everyone should be on board with.

6. Zeke will have a chance to be healthy again and maybe this year he can stay healthy. If he doesn't, look for them to run Pollard into the ground in a contract year.
 

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I believe Moore and Dak can adjust.
But I don't think Dak can adjust his penchant for throwing behind his receivers or at the shoelaces or close to the offsides line.
Mechanics can be cruel to Dak.
 

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This is a fair assessment of what happened to our offense the 2nd half of the season.

I would just add that the Cowboys offense became incredibly predictable when they were one dimensional.

I believe the Cowboys recognized these issues and took steps to try and fix them, perhaps not how most on this forum would have approached it.

1. They got rid of the undisciplined. CW, Collins and Cooper was undisciplined in his effort and route running. Yes route running. Believe it or not, Steele is an upgrade in the run game at RT too...regardless of what the idiotic PFF says.

2. They aimed to get better up front adding a very physical G/T. They tried to add more of a deep threat at WR with Washington and more of a disciplined route runner in Tolbert. He probably won't be the dynamic route runner that Coop is/was but he will be where he needs to be and give effort at all times.

3. They added a blocking/good passing threat at back up TE. We were really hurt by not having Jarwin last year bc it limited what we could do in 12 personnel. While he wasn't a blocker either he was a threat in the pass game. This formation seemed to make us less predictable as well.

4. Dak will be healthy this year and another year removed from the broken leg. Anyone who doesn't think that helps, never had to play a game after a significant injury.

5. Taking away a 20 mill wr let's us focus on Ceedee as a #1 and force him the ball more. I believe that was also part of the equation they used in getting rid of coop as well. He will never have Kupp type targets but 150 isn't out of the question this year. This is something everyone should be on board with.

6. Zeke will have a chance to be healthy again and maybe this year he can stay healthy. If he doesn't, look for them to run Pollard into the ground in a contract year.
Good points! Improvement of penalties, fixing our run and their ability to play more 12 personnel should go a long ways of fixing our offense.
 

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It was really just 3 games plus the playoff game.

Denver
KC
AZ
SF

They did't even try to run in the playoff game. Most runs were on short yardage plays.

They have to be able to run or they'll have those Denver kind of games.

I re-watched the playoff game this morning.

They should have started Steele. Collins was not good. Tyron's ankle must have been far from 100%. He struggled with inside redirects repeatedly.

Connor Williams had his 3 major bad plays. He was ok most if the time but when he fails it's a big time fail.

TEs were part of the blocking problem also.

The score makes it look like the defense was good but the Niners were up early in the game which I think added to the Cowboys offense not running the ball.

Side Note:
There was a delay of game call that I can't understand. It was after they converted on a fake punt play. There were 4 seconds on the play clock when the ref spotted the ball. The ball carrier had gone out of bounds.

Health is the key for 2022. They have enough talent.
-I believe their focus this offseason was to figure how to fix their run game and be able to find more balance.
-The addition of Ferguson could potentially be huge if they are able to play more 12 personnel, teams will not be playing two deep safeties, nor having a nickel corner on the field.
-Penalties have to improve or they will continue to be drive killers for this team.
-Health up front, their backs and their QB was up and down last yr, have to be more healthy to succeed.
 

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And we waved goodbye to our best WR. Best at getting separation, by far.
We don't know what the reason was, but the team clearly soured on Amari Cooper. Yes, they will take a step back talent wise, but I think they won't have a problem matching his low production last season.
 

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Healthy Zeke , using pollard and Zeke together and improved OL will solve that ( But big IF) once we can run easily on light boxes teams will change approach
That is all it takes. I think playing more double TE's will force teams to play more base defense against them as well. Cowboy Offense has to become less predictable.
 

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They are far from a dominant offense. They were really good but struggled down the stretch against good teams. Unable to run the ball completely derailed the offense. If the they can run they can win but This year I wonder how well we can throw the ball with many new faces and less talent overall.
 

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Last season was a tale of two separate offenses, one in the beginning of the year that was considered elite and the other one after the Patriots game that was considered average at best.
Injuries and penalties derailed the offense more the DC's.
 

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Last season was a tale of two separate offenses, one in the beginning of the year that was considered elite and the other one after the Patriots game that was considered average at best. Certainly, there are many factors, but the way Denver devised a plan to defend our offense was the blueprint.

In the early going, teams were stacking the line and taking trying to take away the team's rushing attack, but Fangio, the Denver HC, did the opposite;

-Played extra men in coverage, with two safeties back. His goal was to take away the big passing plays and force Dak to throw into tight windows. Dak had one of his worse games of the season as it was his first game back after injuring his calf.

Other teams followed a similar game plan and had success just like the Broncos did. Force Dak to be patient and throw passes into tight windows. What compounded the offensive struggles was their inability to run the football in light boxes, but also their inability to stay away from the big drive killing penalties. Take away the big play, force the Cowboys to drive the entire field, they will beat themselves. Also, Dak was clearly still hurt and was unwilling to use his legs when his receivers failed to get open.

We saw a similar blueprint against Mahomes and the Chiefs, that really held their elite offense in check. It really took them a lot of time to adjust and they still showed their warts in the playoffs.

Will Dak and Kellen Moore be able to make the necessary adjustments to bring this offense from being average back to elite standards?
Moore did not show me could adjust last season
So not hopeful this year.
 

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It is unfortunate but had to be done.

Coaching 101...don't tolerate dissention...especially not when it is expressed to the media.

That's coaching for toddlers, not professionals.

Cooper is hardly the first WR to think he should get the ball more, and on the scale of top receivers, he was near the bottom on how much he made a fuss about it.

I don't expect players to be mindless rah rah automatons, and highly disrespect coaches who need that.
 

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We don't know what the reason was, but the team clearly soured on Amari Cooper. Yes, they will take a step back talent wise, but I think they won't have a problem matching his low production last season.

WR production always has to be context normed. Cooper was the top target of opposing defenses, and still produced. WIthout Cooper on the field, all that attention that used to slow him will be focused on our remaining lesser WRs.

Check the advanced stats for the Cowboys WRs
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/receiving_advanced.htm

Cooper, even while getting all the attention from defenses that he did, has a QB rating when thrown to of 116.9.
Gallup and CeeDee are both around 90. Are those numbers supposed to go *up* when one of them is the top target of the defense?
 

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Stop with the penalties and use Pollard much more. For the most part, they are going to have to take what the defense is giving them and grind down the field.

I don't think the solution is going to revolve around throwing into tight coverage but having better passing plays might help a little. There was a video from someone showing that Dallas uses very few combo routes or overloads.
 

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Stop with the penalties and use Pollard much more. For the most part, they are going to have to take what the defense is giving them and grind down the field.

I don't think the solution is going to revolve around throwing into tight coverage but having better passing plays might help a little. There was a video from someone showing that Dallas uses very few combo routes or overloads.

Started to look like GarrettBall at times.

4 10 yard stick routes. So many routes where the receiver ends up standing in place waiting for a throw.
 
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