Twitter: Schultz Skipping Rest Of OTA's Due To Contract Frustrations

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On the surface it’s not that big a deal.....he wants a new deal and hasn’t got one so his agent recommends he does this. Overall pretty standard. The bigger issue for me is why the cowboys decided to go this route in the first place....Schultz had a good year and he’s a pretty good tight end.

he isn’t a game changer and he isn’t really a ceiling raiser Imo. Doesn’t block and doesn’t really make the defense give full attention to him. He catches a lot of balls and he’ll move the chain but he’s not really A YAC guy or some game breaker. To me he’s a huge beneficiary of the offense and others around him and to his credit he took advantage.

would have been fine if we didn’t bring him back this offseason or we went another direction.
 
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CalPolyTechnique said:
Were you claiming Schultz was a Top 10 TE when we drafted him in the 4th round?
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Nope
That’s called a great pick when you get a top 10 player at his position in the 4th
No one was saying Micah was the best player in the draft before he was drafted, but they are today
 
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CTcowboy203 said:
On the surface it’s not that big a deal.....he wants a new deal and hasn’t got one so his agent recommends he does this. Overall pretty standard. The bigger issue for me is why the cowboys decided to go this route in the first place....Schultz had a good year and he’s a pretty good tight end.

he isn’t a game changer and he isn’t really a ceiling raiser Imo. Doesn’t block and doesn’t really make the defense give full attention to him. He catches a lot of balls and he’ll move the chain but he’s not really A YAC guy or some game breaker. To me he’s a huge beneficiary of the offense and others around him and to his credit he took advantage.

would have been fine if we didn’t bring him back this offseason or we went another direction.
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The point of tagging him was you list cooper and Wilson, you also had no one ready to step up and replace him
It’s a one time cost that had no effect on being able to sign other players at all
 
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OmerV said:
What does it take to "deserve the tag". It's not a reward or honor, it's just ensuring that one player can't go to another team for one year.

As for a contract for more than one year, what it will be and what the long term effect may be, that may or may not be true. Only time will tell.
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Exactly
The tag has nothing to do with his value, but simply the cost of keeping him
The reason a team uses it varies but the main reason is they don’t have a player on the roster who can replace his production. TE is a relatively cheap tag costs too
 
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fivetwos said:
Hahahaha. Hypocrite.

There's a REASON he signed the tag so soon......because he wanted the security of it not being pulled.

Anyone ever think it may be better for the team overall to take away Daks security blanket?

Who knows what happens from here but I'm a hell if a lot more excited about Ferguson than I was about Schultz at the same point in time.

Still waiting for someone to make a legit point about what makes Schultz worthy of that kind of money.....and I mean that from the exact opposite of a fantasy football point of view where a dump off catch nets you a point. Yay.
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Maybe Ferguson is the new safety blanket.
 
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CalPolyTechnique said:
Correct. Someone will pay retail for Schultz and he’ll walk and the Cowboys will insert Fergy who’s a carbon copy of Schultz.
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Hope Ferguson can be a carbon copy. If so it’s a home run picks
Ideally you always have a guy ready to go when a guy hits FA. Not having a guy ready is why teams tag most players
 
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conner01 said:
Hope Ferguson can be a carbon copy. If so it’s a home run picks
Ideally you always have a guy ready to go when a guy hits FA. Not having a guy ready is why teams tag most players
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In an off-season where the FO seems to be fallen asleep at the wheel, I think they way they’ve correctly handled the Schultz situation thus far.
 
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Haven’t seen any particulars on what management has offered him so it’s hard to take sides on this one. That being said no way I pay this guy top TE money. I’d sign an affordable vet, groom my rookie and trade him.
 
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(Yawn) It's business. Shultz team knows Capboy has zero intentions of agreeing to a long term deal. Shultz team wants that Jerry money especially after the Njoku deal, but the plan at TE is set.
 
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This is standard with tagged players. I am surprised he showed up for voluntary action but must have been a show of good faith they would negotiate in good faith.

Schultz was the fall back tag because the TE tag of right under 11M is one of the cheapest and they knew they were losing WR1 and probably 3, 4 and 2 would miss time.
 
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birdwells1 said:
Because you end up paying a 5 million dollar player 11 million dollars.
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First, to call him a $5 million dollar player is to stick your head in the sand and ignore the market.

A year ago NE signed a TE averaging 319 yds/3 TD's over 5 years to a 4 yr, $50 million contract with $31 MM guaranteed
Seattle just gave an $8 million/year contract to a TE who's career best season was 262 yards and 4 TD's
Miami tagged their TE who was less productive than Schultz
Indianapolis this offseason gave a $6 milllion one year deal to a player who had less than half of Schultz's numbers last year.
The Panthers have a TE making about $5.5 million who in 4 years hasn't accumulated the yardage and TD totals Schultz had just last year.

Second is that it is only 1 year, so no long term commitment if they can't reach an agreeable longer term deal, they have the cap space and it ensures they don't play 2022 without a viable NFL TE.
 
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MountaineerCowboy said:
I'd be okay with Schultz being paid somewhere around 7-10ish range too, but the excuse for Dak's horrible contract also applies to other positions too......

Ya know what that excuse is, right? "That's just how the market works".
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It can still be done in today's supposed NFL market value. I thought Brown and Lewis did not get embarrasingly overpaid CB contracts based on their performance. So yeah, reasonable contracts are still not extinct.
But as I implied, Jerry's personal view of market value as to how much money that player can make him is often very different than actual worth/performance level of said player.

The boy cant build a championship team to save his life but he can fool the world into thinking his personal favorites are worth every penny he spent on 'em.

GM? No.
Marketing Genius? Yes

At least they're relevant.

lol
 
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