News: Did this deal set the bar for Schultz?

OmerV · Jun 8, 2022

lostar2009 said:
He shouldve tested the market and not tag. Cowboys shouldve drafted 2 TEs this year early instead of drafting for need. This is what happens when you give away your players for free, no draft capital to trade.

Once the team designated him with the franchise tag he couldn't test the market. At that point his options were only to sign the tag, agree to a contract on other terms, or sit out the season.

blueblood70 · Jun 8, 2022

OmerV said:
Once the team designated him with the franchise tag he couldn't test the market. At that point his options were only to sign the tag, agree to a contract on other terms, or sit out the season.

Not sure what the big delas is here he sitting out few voluntary otas he showed up worked out in few and then decided he didn't need to risk the rest, he will be back at camp im sure or at least play the season.
BTW his stats have him top 10 but most were top 5 his tag is 7th in TE salary. His numbers are better then Goddert and Goddert got 14mil..

im not saying sign the guy now but if he has another year like last year or better why wouldn't you conder giving him a better deal?? i know hes not elite or special but hes solid, steady, and productive,

OmerV · Jun 8, 2022

blueblood70 said:
Not sure what the big delas is here he sitting out few voluntary otas he showed up worked out in few and then decided he didn't need to risk the rest, he will be back at camp im sure or at least play the season.
BTW his stats have him top 10 but most were top 5 his tag is 7th in TE salary. His numbers are better then Goddert and Goddert got 14mil..

im not saying sign the guy now but if he has another year like last year or better why wouldn't you conder giving him a better deal?? i know hes not elite or special but hes solid, steady, and productive,

I agree. Some seem to think the only TE's worth any real value are guys like Kittle & Kelse. I think everyone agrees Schultz isn't in that class, but it's nonsensical to think that a TE has to be in that class to have real value. Only a few teams get to have those3-4 truly elite TE's, and the rest are trying to get the best they can from the rest. Why wouldn't a team want a guy that is among the best of the rest?

But, like I've said before, teams have to make tough choices sometimes, and occasionally have to move on from a player they would really like to keep. I personally hope that doesn't end up as Schultz's fate, but I can understand it's a dilemma for teams sometimes.

Reid1boys · Jun 8, 2022

Loso86 said:
It shouldn't he's not as good

Schultz numbers LAST year were better than Njoku's last 2 seasons COMBINED.

You are nuts

Loso86 · Jun 8, 2022

Reid1boys said:
Schultz numbers LAST year were better than Njoku's last 2 seasons COMBINED.

You are nuts

Ok just because the Browns overpaid him doesn't mean we should over pay Dalton. Your point

Reid1boys · Jun 8, 2022

Loso86 said:
Ok just because the Browns overpaid him doesn't mean we should over pay Dalton. Your point

tell me who you think Schultz is comparable to. Then we can see what that person is making.

Loso86 · Jun 8, 2022

Reid1boys said:
tell me who you think Schultz is comparable to. Then we can see what that person is making.

Logan Thomas, Zach Ertz, Mike Gieseki. All making around 8 to 11 which is fine. Kittle and the top guys are 14 or 15 plus. He's NOT that is all I'm saying. Pay him just not TOP money. Lol 5 yr 45 mil 25ml guaranteed

lostar2009 · Jun 8, 2022

Bullflop said:
The Dallas FO isn't ready to take that plunge. They know we'll need Schultz in 2022. Yet, 2023 might well be another thing.

Meh I think that new guy got it

lostar2009 · Jun 8, 2022

Adreme said:
Um what? Your argument basically is that "they should not have drafted for need they should have drafted this position... which they need". Drafting for need is quite literally what you are saying the Cowboys should have done because you are focused on picking a position that is drafting for need.

This was deep TE draft. I thought they wouldve grab two this y3ar.

lostar2009 · Jun 8, 2022

Bullflop said:
It seems Schultz hoped he'd remain with the Cowboys at the time and be able to negotiate a new contract. That was then, this is now.

Unfortunately, the Dallas FO appears to be averse to negotiating, unless they absolutely have to. Stephen is cheap but also, a bit lazy.

Perhaps if they had a GM to attend to the contracts, our FO would be more inclined to allow another fellow employee to attend to that.

Shouldve offer him a contract at the start if he didnt like allow him to test the market. There was some TEs that went cheap this year.

Bullflop · Jun 8, 2022

lostar2009 said:
Meh I think that new guy got it

He got his rookie contract. The contract levels for rookies are pretty well preset, so it's most likely not anything spectacular.

Bullflop · Jun 8, 2022

lostar2009 said:
Shouldve offer him a contract at the start if he didnt like allow him to test the market. There was some TEs that went cheap this year.

The reason why he ended up with the franchise tag was because he wasn't happy with the offers he got.

Testing the market would have, more than likely, been considerably more expensive than were practical.

lostar2009 · Jun 9, 2022

Bullflop said:
The reason why he ended up with the franchise tag was because he wasn't happy with the offers he got.

Testing the market would have, more than likely, been considerably more expensive than were practical.

Let him walk. I think we can still trade him.

LittleD · Jun 9, 2022

It doesn't matter what the bar is for Schultz. The only way he gets that bar is with some other team. You shouldn't ever pay RB's or TE's. Just keep drafting one of each every year.

Bullflop · Jun 9, 2022

lostar2009 said:
Let him walk. I think we can still trade him.

The Cowboys aren't about to let him walk in 2022. He's too valuable as a receiver. He might be gone next year, though.

Reid1boys · Jun 10, 2022

Loso86 said:
Logan Thomas, Zach Ertz, Mike Gieseki. All making around 8 to 11 which is fine. Kittle and the top guys are 14 or 15 plus. He's NOT that is all I'm saying. Pay him just not TOP money. Lol 5 yr 45 mil 25ml guaranteed

Logan Thomas if healthy is actually better IMO. Ertz, was a top 3 TE a few years ago, Gieseki, seems to never stay healthy. I dont disagree that he is in the park with those guys, but you seem to be doing what everyone always seems to do...... lose sight of where the market is heading. 5 years at 45 million total is 9 million per year. Sorry, 2 years ago, maybe. Not today.

Loso86 · Jun 10, 2022

Reid1boys said:
Logan Thomas if healthy is actually better IMO. Ertz, was a top 3 TE a few years ago, Gieseki, seems to never stay healthy. I dont disagree that he is in the park with those guys, but you seem to be doing what everyone always seems to do...... lose sight of where the market is heading. 5 years at 45 million total is 9 million per year. Sorry, 2 years ago, maybe. Not today.

That's fine. I just want every to stop complaining about Daks contract, Zekes contract and the contract Diggs, Lamb and Parsons will be getting then

Reid1boys · Jun 11, 2022

Loso86 said:
That's fine. I just want every to stop complaining about Daks contract, Zekes contract and the contract Diggs, Lamb and Parsons will be getting then

If Diggs, Lamb, and Parsons all perform above last years level, nobody will complain about their deals. Daks deal is simple, win playoff games at a MINIMUM, or any amount he is paid will have people complaining.

Mannix · Jun 11, 2022

CowboysExchange said:
he got paid and played 8.5 games out of 33. How is that being right about anything?

He was way better than McKeon, Sprinkle, and Schultz at the time

The fo wanted to be right also. But they weren't. Just like they weren't about most tes. Js

They couldn't pick a great te out of a lineup for squat

Y'all act like Schultz is gonna go to another team and make them great. When his inflated stats didn't even make our team great.

Maybe great against Philly but that's it Lmao

I sure would like to see more of Sprinkle and especially McKeon...but of course, we never will. We will overpay to keep Dak's dump off security blanket who really isn't even a true TE.

Loso86 · Jun 11, 2022

Reid1boys said:
If Diggs, Lamb, and Parsons all perform above last years level, nobody will complain about their deals. Daks deal is simple, win playoff games at a MINIMUM, or any amount he is paid will have people complaining.

There will be some who just like to combine about EVERYTHING thag will unfortunately

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