Rich Eisen Proposes a Trade

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Let me see......

Trade premium picks for a WR and then give him a huge contract. What an original concept!

Yes, the Cowboys should try something new and innovative like trading high picks for a perceived elite receiver.

Typically, it might be a good idea to do some research and discover if any other NFL team ever tried that strategy. I'm sure it's been done before but i don't recall exactly which team that was. It's a shame because now we don't have any frame of reference to compare.

Not to worry, I'm sure it turned out great for that team, probably the last missing piece for that Super Bowl run.

So that brings up another great question. Why is such a natural football guru like Rich Eisen not a GM for some lucky NFL team?
 
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DK is a freak for sure but for some reason I wouldn't give up more than a 2nd rounder for him knowing we have to pay him big bucks.
 
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He thinks a 1st round pick would do it. I think if they tried to negotiate anything they would probably give up 2 1sts and a 2nd. Not that they do want him, they think CeeDee is better than he is so they aren't interested.
 
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I'm sorry but WR is about the highest supplied position in the NFL with NCAA teams regularly running spread 4WR sets.

I have zero interest in trading draft picks for a WR in the first place but to add a $20m contract to boo, hard hard pass.

Trade for OL, DL, QB, or the high scarcity positions.
 
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We got rid of a top 5 route runner in the league making 20m a year.

The top guys, are now getting 25-30 a year.

Tell me why we got rid of Cooper again?
 
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FuzzyLumpkins said:
I'm sorry but WR is about the highest supplied position in the NFL with NCAA teams regularly running spread 4WR sets.

I have zero interest in trading draft picks for a WR in the first place but to add a $20m contract to boo, hard hard pass.

Trade for OL, DL, QB, or the high scarcity positions.
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Not to mention we are now seeing some pretty damn good ones coming out of college every year.
 
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What a stupid trade that would be for Dallas...and.REisen needs to know the Dallas FO mentality nowadays and this won't fly. Too much to give up and not the kind of WR Dallas would need with the QB they have.
 
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Aerolithe_Lion said:
All in for DK Metcalf





Rich mentions in the video that Green Bay seems like a great fit, but it’s so out of character for them that it’s not even worth entertaining. I would argue the same for Dallas, even with them doing it with Cooper. This is incomparable for 2 reasons:

1. Dallas was a flailing Team midseason in 2019 when they made a desperation play. It’s currently June when everyone is wearing rose-colored glasses, there are 32 future SB winners, and Jerry thinks his team has the best WR corps in the NFL, probably. The mindset of “we need” is not on the table.

2. The value in Amari was that you didn’t have to pay him as soon as the trade went through. You didn’t even need to pay him at the end of the season. You had 2 years of rookie contract status before it came up. To trade for DK and then immediately sign him to the biggest non-QB deal Dallas has ever given out? Before you even see how he meshes with the offense, with Dak? That’s a very different scenario. Dallas doesn’t give that kind of money out to outside players. Not since Brandon Carr. Amari was on the roster for nearly 20 Months before you made that call. He was already a Cowboy through and through.




But let’s say Dallas does do it. What would it take? Here, we again have 2 points to consider:

1. DK Metcalf’s best comp in the entire NFL is… probably his college teammate, AJ Brown. They came out the same year, same age, and their stats are oddly close, with the exception of AJ missing some games due to injury giving DK a bit of a lead in TDs. AJ is a bit better as a possession receiver as well as in the redzone, though DK is very good at these things as well. AJ has better hands & Metcalf is bigger, but Metcalf has good hands too and AJ and is also very physical. Metcalf is faster, and is the better deep threat, but AJ also ran a sub-4.5 40 and actually has 50% more career catches over 40 yards and higher career YPC, despite having the inferior QB… but then again DK has missed fewer games. They’re pretty close.

Also, conveniently, AJ was just traded! So we have a template for DK’s value. A 1st and a 3rd, slightly less than a Davante Adams or a Tyreek Hill.

2. One major snare here: we’re still fresh off the draft. That means all picks traded are not quite full value, they’re “future assets.” Rule of thumb was that trading a pick a year in advance reduces its value by a round. I don’t believe this is as true in June as it was in April, because Seattle is stuck trading him for the best offer… and no one is going to offer that much for DK (multiple 1’s to accommodate future pick value).
But I do still think it’ll be more than AJ….

Would you trade a 2023 1st, 3rd, and 2024 3rd for DK Metcalf right now?
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Have we learned our lesson yet?
3 times we have traded # One draft picks for WRs.
How has that worked out???
 

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Why do analysts and fans think we're always a wide receiver away from contending? :facepalm:
 
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unionjack8 said:
We got rid of a top 5 route runner in the league making 20m a year.

The top guys, are now getting 25-30 a year.

Tell me why we got rid of Cooper again?
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He was a Brit and talked goofy. We have one here. Gimme a rock or something.
 
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The Dallas FO wasn't satisfied with paying Amari Cooper $20 million.

What it might've cost to get DK Metcalf could've been even more. :oops:

Add to that, the hit they would have taken on draft picks w/be terrible.
 
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Aerolithe_Lion said:
All in for DK Metcalf





Rich mentions in the video that Green Bay seems like a great fit, but it’s so out of character for them that it’s not even worth entertaining. I would argue the same for Dallas, even with them doing it with Cooper. This is incomparable for 2 reasons:

1. Dallas was a flailing Team midseason in 2019 when they made a desperation play. It’s currently June when everyone is wearing rose-colored glasses, there are 32 future SB winners, and Jerry thinks his team has the best WR corps in the NFL, probably. The mindset of “we need” is not on the table.

2. The value in Amari was that you didn’t have to pay him as soon as the trade went through. You didn’t even need to pay him at the end of the season. You had 2 years of rookie contract status before it came up. To trade for DK and then immediately sign him to the biggest non-QB deal Dallas has ever given out? Before you even see how he meshes with the offense, with Dak? That’s a very different scenario. Dallas doesn’t give that kind of money out to outside players. Not since Brandon Carr. Amari was on the roster for nearly 20 Months before you made that call. He was already a Cowboy through and through.




But let’s say Dallas does do it. What would it take? Here, we again have 2 points to consider:

1. DK Metcalf’s best comp in the entire NFL is… probably his college teammate, AJ Brown. They came out the same year, same age, and their stats are oddly close, with the exception of AJ missing some games due to injury giving DK a bit of a lead in TDs. AJ is a bit better as a possession receiver as well as in the redzone, though DK is very good at these things as well. AJ has better hands & Metcalf is bigger, but Metcalf has good hands too and AJ and is also very physical. Metcalf is faster, and is the better deep threat, but AJ also ran a sub-4.5 40 and actually has 50% more career catches over 40 yards and higher career YPC, despite having the inferior QB… but then again DK has missed fewer games. They’re pretty close.

Also, conveniently, AJ was just traded! So we have a template for DK’s value. A 1st and a 3rd, slightly less than a Davante Adams or a Tyreek Hill.

2. One major snare here: we’re still fresh off the draft. That means all picks traded are not quite full value, they’re “future assets.” Rule of thumb was that trading a pick a year in advance reduces its value by a round. I don’t believe this is as true in June as it was in April, because Seattle is stuck trading him for the best offer… and no one is going to offer that much for DK (multiple 1’s to accommodate future pick value).
But I do still think it’ll be more than AJ….

Would you trade a 2023 1st, 3rd, and 2024 3rd for DK Metcalf right now?
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LOL, this is pathetic even for an Eagles fan
:facepalm::facepalm:
 
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Aerolithe_Lion said:
All in for DK Metcalf





Rich mentions in the video that Green Bay seems like a great fit, but it’s so out of character for them that it’s not even worth entertaining. I would argue the same for Dallas, even with them doing it with Cooper. This is incomparable for 2 reasons:

1. Dallas was a flailing Team midseason in 2019 when they made a desperation play. It’s currently June when everyone is wearing rose-colored glasses, there are 32 future SB winners, and Jerry thinks his team has the best WR corps in the NFL, probably. The mindset of “we need” is not on the table.

2. The value in Amari was that you didn’t have to pay him as soon as the trade went through. You didn’t even need to pay him at the end of the season. You had 2 years of rookie contract status before it came up. To trade for DK and then immediately sign him to the biggest non-QB deal Dallas has ever given out? Before you even see how he meshes with the offense, with Dak? That’s a very different scenario. Dallas doesn’t give that kind of money out to outside players. Not since Brandon Carr. Amari was on the roster for nearly 20 Months before you made that call. He was already a Cowboy through and through.




But let’s say Dallas does do it. What would it take? Here, we again have 2 points to consider:

1. DK Metcalf’s best comp in the entire NFL is… probably his college teammate, AJ Brown. They came out the same year, same age, and their stats are oddly close, with the exception of AJ missing some games due to injury giving DK a bit of a lead in TDs. AJ is a bit better as a possession receiver as well as in the redzone, though DK is very good at these things as well. AJ has better hands & Metcalf is bigger, but Metcalf has good hands too and AJ and is also very physical. Metcalf is faster, and is the better deep threat, but AJ also ran a sub-4.5 40 and actually has 50% more career catches over 40 yards and higher career YPC, despite having the inferior QB… but then again DK has missed fewer games. They’re pretty close.

Also, conveniently, AJ was just traded! So we have a template for DK’s value. A 1st and a 3rd, slightly less than a Davante Adams or a Tyreek Hill.

2. One major snare here: we’re still fresh off the draft. That means all picks traded are not quite full value, they’re “future assets.” Rule of thumb was that trading a pick a year in advance reduces its value by a round. I don’t believe this is as true in June as it was in April, because Seattle is stuck trading him for the best offer… and no one is going to offer that much for DK (multiple 1’s to accommodate future pick value).
But I do still think it’ll be more than AJ….

Would you trade a 2023 1st, 3rd, and 2024 3rd for DK Metcalf right now?
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Won't waste my time...
 
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