Twitter: Schultz Skipping Rest Of OTA's Due To Contract Frustrations

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?? Shultz is Dak's security blanket - Zeke hasnt done anything in years. Zeke actually hurts the team cause he takes away carries from the better running back. Go watch last years playoff game of Pollard standing on the sidelines while Zeke does nothing. Zeke is the highest paid running back and isnt even a top 10 RB anymore

I say all this but I actually like Zeke. It was just a stupid contract - guy had 2 years left on his rookie deal and could have tagged him another 2 years. There was zero reason to pay him that kind of money.
All about the contract huh? I don;t give any ship about how much a player makes or doesn't make.
They asked zeke to play hurt last year. He did...mostly to help keep Dak healthy because of our crappy o-line. You'd can his axe for it.
 

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All about the contract huh? I don;t give any ship about how much a player makes or doesn't make.
They asked zeke to play hurt last year. He did...mostly to help keep Dak healthy because of our crappy o-line. You'd can his axe for it.


he wasn't good 2 years ago and I don't care what a player makes either if there wasn't a salary cap. But when you make Zeke the highest paid RB and he isnt even the best RB on your team but you have to play him thats a problem
 

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He needs better after play moves if he expects to get paid.
 

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..this thread cracks me up. This guy has appointed himself a superstar, after a decent year.
 

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What does it take to "deserve the tag". It's not a reward or honor, it's just ensuring that one player can't go to another team for one year.

As for a contract for more than one year, what it will be and what the long term effect may be, that may or may not be true. Only time will tell.

cmon man, “doesn’t deserve” a top 5 gtd contract even for 1 year.
 

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cmon man, “doesn’t deserve” a top 5 gtd contract even for 1 year.
It's not a top 5 contract. Not even remotely close. A top 5 contract would be a multi-year contract with a large signing bonus and a large chunk of the money guaranteed.

This is just pay for one year to circumvent Schultz being a free agent and the team being left without a viable option. But even the pay for 1 year isn't at all out of line with today's market. Seems like a lot of people on this site are under their impression that their personal thoughts on what a person should be paid somehow reflects market value. It does not.

There are TE's that have produced less, and sometimes much less, than Schultz has that have contracts that average more per year than Schultz will get under the tag this year.
 

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He’s getting bad advice from his agent and he’s too stupid to recognize it…..of course his agent knows they are dealing with the Cowboys FO, so maybe it’s not as stupid as it seems.
If the cowboys cave i will lose the little bit of respect for them i have left. And by a little bit i mean very very little
 

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It's not a top 5 contract. Not even remotely close. A top 5 contract would be a multi-year contract with a large signing bonus and a large chunk of the money guaranteed.

This is just pay for one year to circumvent Schultz being a free agent and the team being left without a viable option. But even the pay for 1 year isn't at all out of line with today's market. Seems like a lot of people on this site are under their impression that their personal thoughts on what a person should be paid somehow reflects market value. It does not.

There are TE's that have produced less, and sometimes much less, than Schultz has that have contracts that average more per year than Schultz will get under the tag this year.


the franchise tag is the average of the top 5 salaries and it’s fully guaranteed. i know what the purpose is and would not have used it on him and agree it’s not “deserved” despite how others have overpaid for less. now if he comes in this year and has a repeat or better year, then i’ll eat my words.
 

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I checked out some sports tracker. Dalton was the 3rd best TE in the NFL for receptions and 5th in the NFL for TDs. He had more TDs than Gronkowski. He also averaged 10.4 yards per catch which makes him a first down machine.

It is one of two things. He is a hall of famer or a Kellen Junk Yard Time Baller.

Which is it?

3rd and 5th once = HOF? lol.
 

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he wasn't good 2 years ago and I don't care what a player makes either if there wasn't a salary cap. But when you make Zeke the highest paid RB and he isnt even the best RB on your team but you have to play him thats a problem
You have ZERO proof...that tony is a "better RB". ZERO.

Tony has never been a #1 rb...ever. Maybe pee wee. Not in the NCAA not in the NFL.

Not sure why you think he's better based on a couple carries and splash yards...that he is SUPPOSED to get. That's why they cal it "change of pace".

I would think our history of #2 RB's flopping at #1 would give you SOME caution and pause. But you guys hate zeke. No need to deny it.
 

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the franchise tag is the average of the top 5 salaries and it’s fully guaranteed. i know what the purpose is and would not have used it on him and agree it’s not “deserved” despite how others have overpaid for less. now if he comes in this year and has a repeat or better year, then i’ll eat my words.
Which isn't remotely on a competitive level with a multi year contract for the same annual salary or more, a signing bonus and $30 million guaranteed. It's ridiculous to suggest it is. The tag is competitive salary for a single year only, but not a competitive contract.

You keep printing that he doesn't "deserve" the tag, as if the tag is some kind of honor or reward. That's not what it is at all. Player's don't like to get tagged. They want to negotiate a more substantial multi year deal, and the tag takes that away from them.

And, again, it seems you think your personal opinion on what players should make has some relevance. It does not. The only things that have relevance are the rules negotiated under the collective bargaining agreement and the market value set by the contracts negotiated around the NFL. Owners and players set the market environment, not a fan on his computeter.

I don't get why you care so much anyway. The tag isn't hurting the Cowboys at all. They have the cap space this year, and there is no ongoing salary cap implication. If they never work out a contract with Schultz they can cut ties without consequences next year.
 

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Which isn't remotely on a competitive level with a multi year contract for the same annual salary or more, a signing bonus and $30 million guaranteed. It's ridiculous to suggest it is. The tag is competitive salary for a single year only, but not a competitive contract.

You keep printing that he doesn't "deserve" the tag, as if the tag is some kind of honor or reward. That's not what it is at all. Player's don't like to get tagged. They want to negotiate a more substantial multi year deal, and the tag takes that away from them.

And, again, it seems you think your personal opinion on what players should make has some relevance. It does not. The only things that have relevance are the rules negotiated under the collective bargaining agreement and the market value set by the contracts negotiated around the NFL. Owners and players set the market environment, not a fan on his computeter.

I don't get why you care so much anyway. The tag isn't hurting the Cowboys at all. They have the cap space this year, and there is no ongoing salary cap implication. If they never work out a contract with Schultz they can cut ties without consequences next year.

lol sheesh. had a bit more respect for you as a poster than warranted it seems. I didnt compare or suggest any comparison to multi-year deals, this is strictly about his salary this year, what's ridiculous is to incorporate that strawman, for.... exactly what? I'm not sure.

I also don't need the tag and it's usage/implications explained to me like a child, or to be condescended about my opinion on a message board on which you participate and share opinions as well. Considering we kicked Amari to the curb, lost Randy etc I feel like using the tag on someone as replaceable as Schulz was a poor usage of resources. Sorry that my opinion offends you so much, as well as the standard usage of "deserves" which you seem completely baffled by. Tag = money, no one cares about the tag itself, referencing means the guaranteed money attached to it. And I care about as much as I care about McDonalds bringing back the McRib. It's something to discuss and have an opinion on.
 

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lol sheesh. had a bit more respect for you as a poster than warranted it seems. I didnt compare or suggest any comparison to multi-year deals, this is strictly about his salary this year, what's ridiculous is to incorporate that strawman, for.... exactly what? I'm not sure.

I also don't need the tag and it's usage/implications explained to me like a child, or to be condescended about my opinion on a message board on which you participate and share opinions as well. Considering we kicked Amari to the curb, lost Randy etc I feel like using the tag on someone as replaceable as Schulz was a poor usage of resources. Sorry that my opinion offends you so much, as well as the standard usage of "deserves" which you seem completely baffled by. Tag = money, no one cares about the tag itself, referencing means the guaranteed money attached to it. And I care about as much as I care about McDonalds bringing back the McRib. It's something to discuss and have an opinion on.
I still think Omer is a good forum member. Maybe we can give some slack? :)
 

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You have ZERO proof...that tony is a "better RB". ZERO.

Tony has never been a #1 rb...ever. Maybe pee wee. Not in the NCAA not in the NFL.

Not sure why you think he's better based on a couple carries and splash yards...that he is SUPPOSED to get. That's why they cal it "change of pace".

I would think our history of #2 RB's flopping at #1 would give you SOME caution and pause. But you guys hate zeke. No need to deny it.


I do not hate Zeke. He just isnt any good anymore. And you could be right that Pollard isnt a #1 RB. But I rather draft someone then keep Zeke at that salary and sign or pay other players. Because what Zeke is giving you can replace pretty easy. His production is avg at best
 

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The franchise tag is one of the very few tools that an organization has that gives them an advantage over a player. The team should be using it every year. Schultz on the franchise tag is a fantastic deal for the team. The Njoku deal is an awful deal for the Browns.
 
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