Serious Question: Is Dak better now than Romo in his prime?

MountaineerCowboy · Jun 10, 2022

Hennessy_King said:
Absolutely not. The team from 2006-2010 was really good. 2007 was the best team weve had since 1996. But dak beats romo in the w-l column and every stat lol. So how is he not better? He also didnt run a hall of fame wr out of town like romo did with T.O.

Dak and Romo are separated by 1% point in career winning percentage. If you want to pound your chest about that then by all means.....

Romo and Dak both have better stats and W/L record (team stat) than Aikman.

So, according to your logic they both have to be better than Aikman, right?

MountaineerCowboy · Jun 10, 2022

Hennessy_King said:
Daks stats are better, int rate way lower and a better win %. They are just dumb fans theres nothing we can do lol

Romo and Dak also have a better INT rate, better win %, and better stats than Aikman.

Romo and Dak also have a better INT rate and better stats than Staubach.

Are we dumb fans for thinking Aikman and Staubach are better than Dak and Romo?

G2 · Jun 10, 2022

Hennessy_King said:
Hard to say im a believer you cant really compare eras. But romo and dak were close enough you can compare. I think aikman was the most accurate and had the most arm talent out of all of them. But the game wasnt played the way it is now then. Same with Staubach. They found ways to win games and were great leaders. Romo was not a good leader.

I agree, it's really not an accurate comparison. I think some fans are just using hindsight to point out past QBs success as a point to trash another player.

Scotman · Jun 10, 2022

zrinkill said:
Unfortunately by the time Romo got really really good his body was shot. But when he was healthy his last 3 years he was better than Dak.

I think that is accurate and fair

chagus · Jun 10, 2022

At this point, i really think its a wash.

jazzcat22 · Jun 10, 2022

Who cares?
If the team gets to the NFCCG, does / will that change any opinions?
Dak lovers will say he is better than Tony, and Dak haters will say it was the team, not Dak.

I don't care who is considered better. I am just looking forward to this season.
Who was better Troy or Roger?

Hennessy_King · Jun 10, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Dak and Romo are separated by 1% point in career winning percentage. If you want to pound your chest about that then by all means.....

Romo and Dak both have better stats and W/L record (team stat) than Aikman.

So, according to your logic they both have to be better than Aikman, right?

MountaineerCowboy said:
Romo and Dak also have a better INT rate, better win %, and better stats than Aikman.

Romo and Dak also have a better INT rate and better stats than Staubach.

Are we dumb fans for thinking Aikman and Staubach are better than Dak and Romo?

Why do you dislike aikman and staubach so much? Aikman was a top 5 qb in his era against his peers so was staubach. Dak is a top 8-10 qb. Romo was never considered a top 10 qb ever. Was never even thought about in the convo. Except for maybe once in 2014 after 10 years in the nfl. Then plummeted back down to earth and then got replaced by a better qb.

Actually when i saw dak in preseason i told everyone if romo gets hurt hes gonna lose his job. I really liked dak coming out i thought he was a end of 1st early 2nd round talent.

MountaineerCowboy · Jun 10, 2022

Hennessy_King said:
Why do you dislike aikman and staubach so much? Aikman was a top 5 qb in his era against his peers so was staubach. Dak is a top 8-10 qb. Romo was never considered a top 10 qb ever. Was never even thought about in the convo. Except for maybe once in 2014 after 10 years in the nfl. Then plummeted back down to earth and then got replaced by a better qb.

Actually when i saw dak in preseason i told everyone if romo gets hurt hes gonna lose his job. I really liked dak coming out i thought he was a end of 1st early 2nd round talent.

I'm just using the logic you presented to ask a question.

Based on your logic for Dak being better than Romo (stats, INT%, and winning percentage)

Romo and Dak both have Aikman beat in those same category and Staubach beat in all but winning % (team stat anyways).

So, I'll ask again MAYBE you'll not avoid and answer this time.... Do you believe Dak and Romo are better than Aikman and Staubach?

Ken · Jun 10, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Okay, but you didn't answer my question:

Do you believe Dak and Romo are better than Aikman and Staubach?

I'm not asking if they could have won on those teams. Do you believe they are flat out better? Because their stats would say so, right?

I know everyone likes to think the old-timers are always better than the newer players. It is natural. You want to believe the guys you watched growing up thinking they were larger than life just can't be bested by today's players.

In many cases, that is true. Randy White/Bob Lilly/Bob Hayes- Those guys have no peers on the modern cowboys, IMO.

Comparing these Qbs is more difficult. It just sounds stupid to say "Romo with 0 Super Bowls is better than Aikman (3 Super Bowls/HOF)". So I am not going to say that.

I believe my statement about Dak and Romo winning Super Bowls on those teams says it all. I also think Troy on their teams has a likely less result.

Hennessy_King · Jun 10, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
I'm just using the logic you presented to ask a question.

Based on your logic for Dak being better than Romo (stats, INT%, and winning percentage)

Romo and Dak both have Aikman beat in those same category and Staubach beat in all but winning % (team stat anyways).

So, I'll ask again MAYBE you'll not avoid and answer this time.... Do you believe Dak and Romo are better than Aikman and Staubach?

No!!! When you have players in different eras you have to see how they stack against their peers in their era. Its the same way i judge every sport. Read my posts, i know its hard with southern education but please read slowly.

Doomsday101 · Jun 10, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
I'm just using the logic you presented to ask a question.

Based on your logic for Dak being better than Romo (stats, INT%, and winning percentage)

Romo and Dak both have Aikman beat in those same category and Staubach beat in all but winning % (team stat anyways).

So, I'll ask again MAYBE you'll not avoid and answer this time.... Do you believe Dak and Romo are better than Aikman and Staubach?

I don't think they were better but I also think the when Rodger played it was different game. I would also add those Doomdays Defense played a big part in the overall success of the Cowboys. Same for Troy. Troy was not concerned with stats he was concerned with winning and put up some of his best stat games in playoffs games but again he had a complete team a dominating defense to go along with an outstanding offense.

MountaineerCowboy · Jun 10, 2022

Hennessy_King said:
No!!! When you have players in different eras you have to see how they stack against their peers in their era. Its the same way i judge every sport. Read my posts, i know its hard with southern education but please read slowly.

You know you're in too deep when you can't say bring yourself to say Staubach and Aikman are better than Romo and Dak.

I don't appreciate your little "southern education" dig there either. I believe it's very uncalled for, and shows that you don't believe in your own horrible logic when judging players. Taking things those places is a sign of not being confident in your own argument, so you try to insults others because you believe it somehow invalids what they say.

Also, you don't even capitalize "I", but you're talking about someone else's education? That's rich.

MountaineerCowboy · Jun 10, 2022

Doomsday101 said:
I don't think they were better but I also think the when Rodger played it was different game. I would also add those Doomdays Defense played a big part in the overall success of the Cowboys. Same for Troy. Troy was not concerned with stats he was concerned with winning and put up some of his best stat games in playoffs games but again he had a complete team a dominating defense to go along with an outstanding offense.

When Romo started to when Dak started was also a different game.

That's why using that type of logic (better INT %, winning percentage (team stat), and stats mean you're better) is flawed, but if you're going to use it then stand by it instead of picking and choosing when to use it.

Hennessy_King · Jun 10, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
You know you're in too deep when you can't say bring yourself to say Staubach and Aikman are better than Romo and Dak.

I don't appreciate your little "southern education" dig there either. I believe it's very uncalled for, and shows that you don't believe in your own horrible logic when judging players. Taking things those places is a sign of not being confident in your own argument, so you try to insults others because you believe it somehow invalids what they say.

Also, you don't even capitalize "I", but you're talking about someone else's education? That's rich.

Im in a meeting on my phone. Its not a dig its a fact. Just google it. Its scary to be honest.

In their eras they were better qbs. U guys have to understand the resources these guys have nowadays that players back then had no access too. I mean from youth camps to strength and conditioning programs. I mean my sons high school practices are taped and able to be reviewed in less than an hour. Playbooks all on apps that can be accessed on your phones. Same with all the other sports. The technology and knowledge into medicine, workouts, analytics has changed the game drastically from just 20 years ago.

Doomsday101 · Jun 10, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
When Romo started to when Dak started was also a different game.

That's why using that type of logic (better INT %, winning percentage (team stat), and stats mean you're better) is flawed, but if you're going to use it then stand by it instead of picking and choosing when to use it.

I'm sorry not really

Hennessy_King · Jun 10, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
When Romo started to when Dak started was also a different game.

That's why using that type of logic (better INT %, winning percentage (team stat), and stats mean you're better) is flawed, but if you're going to use it then stand by it instead of picking and choosing when to use it.

Ok it was a different game, nevertheless, (big word) romo was never considered an overall top 10 qb. Period

MountaineerCowboy · Jun 10, 2022

Hennessy_King said:
Im in a meeting on my phone. Its not a dig its a fact. Just google it. Its scary to be honest.

In their eras they were better qbs. U guys have to understand the resources these guys have nowadays that players back then had no access too. I mean from youth camps to strength and conditioning programs. I mean my sons high school practices are taped and able to be reviewed in less than an hour. Playbooks all on apps that can be accessed on your phones. Same with all the other sports. The technology and knowledge into medicine, workouts, analytics has changed the game drastically from just 20 years ago.

Stand by your own logic and don't pick and chose when to use it.

That's all I'm saying.

You lost me after the "southern education" dig. You don't know me at all. I've seen you allude that people that don't believe Dak walks on water must have some kind of reason other than football for that, then here you are judging someone from where you THINK they grew up, and I don't think it's cool at all.

Diehardblues · Jun 10, 2022

Neither are enough in this toxic atmosphere with dysfunctional ownership undermining the coaching staff with too many weaknesses on defense.

DandyDon52 · Jun 10, 2022

D4KADON said:
Dak has improved and what not but I think Romo was greater with less

no not better than young romo, or 2014 romo.
plus tony was more fun to watch!

Diehardblues · Jun 10, 2022

This franchise has so many more flaws than just not having an Elite HOF caliber QB.

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