Twitter: Schultz Skipping Rest Of OTA's Due To Contract Frustrations

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lol sheesh. had a bit more respect for you as a poster than warranted it seems. I didnt compare or suggest any comparison to multi-year deals, this is strictly about his salary this year, what's ridiculous is to incorporate that strawman, for.... exactly what? I'm not sure.

I also don't need the tag and it's usage/implications explained to me like a child, or to be condescended about my opinion on a message board on which you participate and share opinions as well. Considering we kicked Amari to the curb, lost Randy etc I feel like using the tag on someone as replaceable as Schulz was a poor usage of resources. Sorry that my opinion offends you so much, as well as the standard usage of "deserves" which you seem completely baffled by. Tag = money, no one cares about the tag itself, referencing means the guaranteed money attached to it. And I care about as much as I care about McDonalds bringing back the McRib. It's something to discuss and have an opinion on.
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You didn't say he was getting paid for one year what a top 5 TE gets, you said he had a top 5 contract. So, yes, you did compare to top 5 contracts, which are, in fact, multi year deals.

As for explaining the tag, when it is repeatedly referred to as a distinction a player either deserves or doesn't then it needs to be explained. What an employee that is not under contract in any other industry would "deserve" is the opportunity to negotiate the best deal he can on the open market, but in the NFL there is the opportunity for a team to deny that. That shouldn't be cheap, and for the Cowboys it's not about what Schultz deserves, it's a business decision related to what the team feels it needs for the 2022 season.

And stop the "I'm sorry my opinion offends you" nonsense. That's just an empty comment meant as a pseudo slap at me. This is a discussion on a public forum, and in case you missed it I'm not the only one and participating.
 

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You didn't say he was getting paid for one year what a top 5 TE gets, you said he had a top 5 contract. So, yes, you did compare to top 5 contracts, which are, in fact, multi year deals.

As for explaining the tag, when it is repeatedly referred to as a distinction a player either deserves or doesn't then it needs to be explained. What an employee that is not under contract in any other industry would "deserve" is the opportunity to negotiate the best deal he can on the open market, but in the NFL there is the opportunity for a team to deny that. That shouldn't be cheap, and for the Cowboys it's not about what Schultz deserves, it's a business decision related to what the team feels it needs for the 2022 season.

And stop the "I'm sorry my opinion offends you" nonsense. That's just an empty comment meant as a pseudo slap at me. This is a discussion on a public forum, and in case you missed it I'm not the only one and participating.
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get over yourself my dude. when you start that “you’re just a fan on a messsge board” nonsense don’t come back trying to grandstand. you’re hung up on some really weird semantics and it’s a bad look for you. And i literally said “even for one year” lol. dumb “contract” dumb argument. i’m over it though, so feel free to have the last word. i won’t be reading or responding
 

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The franchise tag is one of the very few tools that an organization has that gives them an advantage over a player. The team should be using it every year. Schultz on the franchise tag is a fantastic deal for the team. The Njoku deal is an awful deal for the Browns.
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when used properly, sure. for a guy like Schulz seems like the transition tag would’ve been a better move (imo) Njokus deal was bad, and yes by comparison it makes Schulz deal more palatable, but not a fan of either
 
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Schultz is going to make more money during the upcoming season than he has made his entire career and he wants to pout and act like a spoiled child. It has been reported multiple times that the team wants to work on a deal with him, but I guess he wants it done at his convenience. Schultz an average receiving TE with below average blocking skills. He is lucky to still have a job considering that an upgrade in the draft would have been cheaper and he is not hard to replace.
 
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get over yourself my dude. when you start that “you’re just a fan on a messsge board” nonsense don’t come back trying to grandstand. you’re hung up on some really weird semantics and it’s a bad look for you. And i literally said “even for one year” lol. dumb “contract” dumb argument. i’m over it though, so feel free to have the last word. i won’t be reading or responding
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lol, and you tried to say I got offended ….

As for semantics, the entire weight of your argument was based on the claim Schultz has a contract that falls within the top 5 of current TE contracts. That weight crumbles with the reality he doesn't have a contract remotely like the top 5.

Signing a tag for one year and one year only, and being forced to in order to get paid at all, is nothing like a top 5 contract. The difference is night and day - miles apart - not just semantics.

And, again, you can't even say why it's a bad deal. The closest you have come is to say using the tag on Schultz was a poor use of resources, but how is that the case when they had no plan to use that resource on any other player, so it wouldn't have been used at all otherwise?

The Cowboys had the tag to use ….
they weren't going to use it on anyone else …
they have the cap space and there is no future or ongoing cap implication ...
they avoided being left without a proven TE option in 2022 ...
they bought time for the rookie TE to develop ....

So where is the harm? How was the team damaged?
 
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Blueprint was already set by Zeke: whine and hold out for long enough and Jerry will eventually fold and give you your money.

Zeke didn't deserve that contract, and mediocre Schultz sure as heck doesn't deserve a big contract.

But knowing Jerry, Schultz will be the highest paid TE in the league in a couple weeks.
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This 100%!
Schultz is not special at all. Jerry set a horrible precedent by caving to Zeke. He could’ve made him play it out. Now why wouldn’t Diggs and Parsons hold out for a big deal the first chance they get? Players do that in NE and they get shown the door. Pitt did the right thing with Bell too. But we choose dumb and are now albatrossed to horrible contract for the second best back on the team
 
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get over yourself my dude. when you start that “you’re just a fan on a messsge board” nonsense don’t come back trying to grandstand. you’re hung up on some really weird semantics and it’s a bad look for you. And i literally said “even for one year” lol. dumb “contract” dumb argument. i’m over it though, so feel free to have the last word. i won’t be reading or responding
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NO! I WILL HAVE THE LAST WORD!
FATHER CHRISTMAS HAS YOU AND @OmerV ON HIS "NAUGHTY, OH, BEHAVE," LIST!
 
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This 100%!
Schultz is not special at all. Jerry set a horrible precedent by caving to Zeke. He could’ve made him play it out. Now why wouldn’t Diggs and Parsons hold out for a big deal the first chance they get? Players do that in NE and they get shown the door. Pitt did the right thing with Bell too. But we choose dumb and are now albatrossed to horrible contract for the second best back on the team
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This 100%!
Schultz is not special at all. Jerry set a horrible precedent by caving to Zeke. He could’ve made him play it out. Now why wouldn’t Diggs and Parsons hold out for a big deal the first chance they get? Players do that in NE and they get shown the door. Pitt did the right thing with Bell too. But we choose dumb and are now albatrossed to horrible contract for the second best back on the team
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Just be glad Jerry did not lavish the frail LVE with A similar deal.
 
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Who is gonna be the # 2 starting te?

Eric Ebron
Jared Cook
Jimmy Graham
Gronk
Jesse James
K Rudolph


McKeon and Sprinkle are backups to the backups

Who is replacing Jarwin?
 
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Schultz isn't holding out. His wife prolly has some of that 10.93 million spent. He's not gonna jeapordize that. He's just a 4th rounder. Lol

We overpaid but got Schultz done.

Now What fa is gonna replace Jarwin?
 
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This was the deepest fa class at te and the draft had a bunch of tes and we limped off w just a 4th round rookie to replace a #2 te starter. (Jarwin)

We coulda picked up a top te all the way down to project tes and we have no depth behind Schultz except a fourth round rookie.

That's why we never win beans.

We play a personnel group that requires 2 good tes. But we very seldom even have 1 much less 2.

We should be loading up the cubbord w Gronk, Uzomah, Cook, Ebron, Howard, Rudolph, Graham, Everette, Engram, Mo Alie Cox, Hayden Hurst or Jesse James

All of these players were available and better than Ferguson and those designated blockers.

We couldn't even run the ball with those guys.
 
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And Cooper and Wilson are gone to finance this move???

This front office played all of their cards wrong imo.

Cooper and Wilson were both better playmakers than Schultz.

The current odds this te core can score 10 tds is at about
40-1 odds.
 
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Our offense is 1 injury away from having a 5-12 record.

We have no depth at Te, RB, or Wr.

Just a bunch of ifs and buts.

We lost
Jarwin-Starter
Cooper-Starter
Wilson- Great backup
Clement- 3rd RB

We picked up
Ferguson- Rookie
Washington- fa
Tolbert-Rookie
Ryan Nall- Fa

The cowboys are gonna march out there against Brady w Schultz and McKeon leading the charge in this 12 personnel. Lmao.

I'd bet the entire farm on the BUCS. They will win by at least 3-4 tds.

This offense is gonna mediocre at best.

The Line was the BUCS -9 last year

If they get Gronk back it's gonna jump to BUCS by 14+ this year
 
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