Serious Question: Is Dak better now than Romo in his prime?

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SultanOfSix said:
This is silly. If Dak was put into the same situation as Romo — under Bill Parcells — he may have never played at all. Romo earned his place as QB on the team in the old school, proper way, by satisfying an old school HOF coach who had an aversion to young players compared to veterans, with his abilities and play over the veteran the coach knew for years and chose as his starter. Dak fell into it due to injuries of the two QBs who would’ve been starting before him if those things never happened, and kept his job because of a coach who would never have got a head coaching job anywhere else (and is no longer coaching anywhere) who wanted to ride some magical fairy tale “hot hand” with a rookie over reality, a rational assessment of why the team was really winning, and sound and logical football decisions.
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LOL.....please!

Tony Romo was a Dallas Cowboy because Quince Carter smoked weed. Otherwise, he would have been the best used car dealer in his hometown at the age of 24. Talk about luck! He had a HC and an OC that was willing to put him on ice for three years without throwing a single pass before he became a starter. That has happened only one other time in NFL history and it was done by the same coach. That is how incredibly lucky he is.

At least Jeff Hostetler rewarded Parcell's patience with a Super Bowl championship. How did Romo reward Parcells?

I mean, if you think Dak is still the starter for the Cowboys because he was lucky enough to be there when Romo went out with an injury then you obviously feel the same way about Tom Brady.

If Dak didn't earn the right to be the starter by producing the best rookie QB season in NFL history then why did Romo sit on his butt when he came back from his injury.....talk about silly.
 
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plasticman said:
I respectfully disagree, not necessarily because I believe that Dak will be a future Hall of Famer, maybe he will, maybe not..

Jerry is not willing to start all over again at QB. He doesn't have the time left. Dak represents his last shot, his last hope. I still think there is a chance but the point is, what would be the alternative?

.Do you think Jerry is going to trade up in a future draft, give up three 1st round picks to get the #1 overall pick and hope he gets Manning/Aikman/Stafford and not Goff/Russel/Winston?
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If Jerry really wants to win he we do something to get a real QB to Dallas. Whether that be a trade like the Rams with Stafford or trying to trade up in the draft.

Do I think he will? No, because I don't believe he REALLY cares about winning as much as he puts on. I think he wants to win, but I also think as long as he's making money he is satisfied. Business will always come before winning to Jerry as far as I'm concerned.
 

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Right now it's pretty much a push. Both good statistically, but neither with playoff success.

Those saying Dak had better teams must forget some of the great teams Romo played with. Romo had an excellent oline, had T.O, Dez, Terry Glenn, Witten, Barber, Felix, Julius, Murray. Then players like Miles Austin, Cole Beasley, the Cowboys even traded for Roy Williams to give him more weapons. Romo had plenty to work with but never got it done.

We should all hope Dak surpasses Romo in success rather than trying to validate why our opinion is correct.
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Romo was much better than Dak. Most of the players you list were overrated. They didn't do much playing for other teams.
 
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plasticman said:
LOL.....please!

Tony Romo was a Dallas Cowboy because Quince Carter smoked weed. Otherwise, he would have been the best used car dealer in his hometown at the age of 24. Talk about luck! He had a HC and an OC that was willing to put him on ice for three years without throwing a single pass before he became a starter. That has happened only one other time in NFL history and it was done by the same coach. That is how incredibly lucky he is.

At least Jeff Hostetler rewarded Parcell's patience with a Super Bowl championship. How did Romo reward Parcells?

I mean, if you think Dak is still the starter for the Cowboys because he was lucky enough to be there when Romo went out with an injury then you obviously feel the same way about Tom Brady.

If Dak didn't earn the right to be the starter by producing the best rookie QB season in NFL history then why did Romo sit on his butt when he came back from his injury.....talk about silly.
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Don’t be silly again. Romo replaced Bledsoe not QC. Nothing I said in my last post was non-factual.

As for why Dak maintained his position, that has been repeated on this forum many times, one of which was included in what I already said. Also, Garrett/Jones denied even the opportunity for Romo to compete for the job back. They did everything contrary to sound football reasoning, including having a respected starter lose his position due to injury. Par for their course, and that’s why the franchise hasn’t won a damn thing for twenty six years and counting.

The question was never about whether Dak did an admirable job subbing as a rookie. It was how much better the team could’ve been with Tony in there.
 
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buddahjoe445 said:
Romo was much better than Dak. Most of the players you list were overrated. They didn't do much playing for other teams.
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Lol OK, so what does that say about Dak playing with a declining oline the last few seasons and apparently an overrated Amari? Dez and T.O were both better than Amari as number 1s. Oh and Romo also got a prime Witten.

There are things Romo did better than Dak and visaversa but at the end of the day neither has accomplished playoff success despite some talented teams. So I can't say either is better than the other.
 
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I don’t think Dak will ever approach Romos abilities or level…but maybe he also doesn’t throw that back breaker INT or fumble a FG snap and we win a playoff game or two…
 
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88sAndHeartbreak said:
What's your definition of a "real qb"?
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Not a 4th round talent that would have never been drafted if not for being a dual-threat (that now refuses to use his legs cause he's scared) that's for sure.

You look at Dak's scouting report from the draft, the same issues then are the same issues now.

But a "real QB" is capable of carrying a team if need be, make guys better, not need everything to be perfect always, not easily confused by disguised defenses, can make the tough throws, not play scared, challenge defenses, and can will his team to wins when the deck is stacked against them.
 
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ghst187 said:
I don’t think Dak will ever approach Romos abilities or level…but maybe he also doesn’t throw that back breaker INT or fumble a FG snap and we win a playoff game or two…
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We also may not even get to those situations if Dak is the QB though. The game or season may have already been lost and those moments don't even present themselves.

It works both ways lol
 
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StarChamber_33 said:
We are talking about the same Tony Romo right?! The Romo I remember was nothing more than a stat QB that would turnover the ball in the most inopportune times in big moments. You're actually right when you say they don't belong in the same discussion.. Dak took his job and kept his job even after Romo was healthy.
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Unless, of course, you actually understand what you're watching, which you clearly do not.

Dak is the part purest definition of a garbage stat QB the NFL has ever seen
 
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Anybody's mind changed yet? This board is not much different than politics or life . We are entrenched in our beliefs and very little will sway us

some just like the argumentative journey
 
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erod said:
Unless, of course, you actually understand what you're watching, which you clearly do not.

Dak is the part purest definition of a garbage stat QB the NFL has ever seen
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Dak and Romo are two peas in a pod - both are nothing more that stat machines, incapable of winning when it matters most. The only difference between the two is Romo wanted the celebrity status while Dak wants money.
 
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MountaineerCowboy said:
You give Romo the talent Dak's had for the past 6 years and we have more than 1 Wild Card win to show for it.
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Lol didn't Romo have prime Dez, prime Witten , prime Tyron Smith underrated terrance Williams, TO, TG, Miles Austin Tyron Smith, Colombo, Doug Free,
I could keep going on an on. Gtfoh
 
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I think the same mistake that fans made concerning Romo is being made by fans concerning Dak. The quarterback is only part of the game. He's a big part, but can't make up for team failure. We have nothing because of team failure. Both quarterbacks have played well enough at times for us to win, but the team failed.

Some teams have shown that you don't have a superstar quarterback to win Super Bowls. Even last year, you had a quarterback who had barely been to the playoff and was 0-3 before he was traded to the Rams and got a Super Bowl title.

I don't see why our fans can't learn from that that it isn't all about the quarterback, and debating who was better doesn't really matter.
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I agree. I mean....I think it's okay to do some light hearted comparison. That's what history is meant for....remember the old compared to the now.

But to be in "fights" about it....use one as a weapon against the other....not very productive. I will say again...Dak is good enough to win a super bowl. I think we might need a few more surgical strikes from the offense. More important is the need for stingy stopper D.
 
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RonWashington said:
My perception of # 9 was the game killing turnovers
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The Dallas Cowboys haven’t had an elite quarterback since Troy Aikman. This front office believes it can win a SB with an undrafted free agent or a 4th round player at that position.

Not gonna happen sports fans.

This team needs a a top five pick quarterback to get over the hump. This team needs a Burrow type quarterback. It’s just going to be more of the same for years to come if they don’t go in that direction.
 
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