Why not grab Baker Mayfield? Dak may not be the answer

basel90

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Team was 1-3 under Prescott thanks to a freak onside kick. From memory the team had a better win/loss % of completed games under Dalton with an even worse o-line.
Exactly., great point. Without the miracle against Atlanta , dak's start before dalton would have been 0-4. Poor Dalton was blamed for that whole season.
 
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Honestly this team has been treading water for years, not going backwards.
I don't want to talk about progress because we aren't addressing progress.
We've been discussing going backwards when they haven't.
They're just treadmilling.
Excellent parallel. We just tread water, over and over and over, because Jerry does not comprehend how to build a super bowl contender.

We can't stop the run. Well, just get some more CB's, that'll do the trick!!!!
 

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i cannot think of a single game where dak was the difference in a win for the cowboys . The same for MM by the way . Coaching decisions and the QB can be the difference .
There are a few
He played very well against Tampa Bay in his rookie season. If he played like that when needed in future games then I would have no issue with him. He was great.
He was excellent against the Giants I think in 2017 but it was in a dead rubber for them.
Very good against the Vikings when he carried the team but still lost.
He played very well against Tampa Bay opening night last season when the team still lost.
Very good against the Patriots last season.
From all those games I still think his best performance was against Tampa Bay in his rookie season followed by his efforts in the Vikings loss back in the 2020 season from memory.
 

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Tied for second-most game-winning drives in first four seasons
Yeah mostly thanks to the o-line/Zeke and having to comeback to redeem his own poor play earlier in the game against inferior opposition. Better QBs wouldn't have even put the team in that position - they would be game managing and cruising to victory. You can't get away with doing that in the play offs hence his poor record in the post season.
 

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Yeah mostly thanks to the o-line/Zeke and having to comeback to redeem his own poor play earlier in the game against inferior opposition. Better QBs wouldn't have even put the team in that position - they would be game managing and cruising to victory. You can't get away with doing that in the play offs hence his poor record in the post season.
Was that an official WWWWWAAAAAHHHH?
 

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Tied for second-most game-winning drives in first four seasons
nothing of any importance against any good teams. mostly wins in the worst division in the NFL . Name one game against a winning team where he led a winning drive. very few , maybe against the patriots last season ? too scarse
 

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Yeah mostly thanks to the o-line/Zeke and having to comeback to redeem his own poor play earlier in the game against inferior opposition. Better QBs wouldn't have even put the team in that position - they would be game managing and cruising to victory. You can't get away with doing that in the play offs hence his poor record in the post season.


Soooo.... if this record Dak is tied for is solely due to the offensive line and Zeke..... why haven't other thousands of other quarterbacks within 100 years of football been able to tie the NFL records with game-winning drives in their first four years???

Not comparing Dak to these other quarterbacks Im about to name, but Brady, Elway, and a few other quarterbacks get praised for the ability to comeback from being down to win the game.

So why when other quarterbacks come back and win, they're praised and lifted up on shoulders, etc.... but when Dak ties the NFL RECORD for this in his first four years.... its because of this person or that guy??? **** is so double standard its hilarious.

Name me ONE fourth round quarterback in NFL history who has pretty much over-achieved his draft position and is expected to do MORE than the first round quarterbacks he plays against. Dak is held to a higher standard than 1st and 2nd round quarterbacks. Can anyone explain this??

Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Dak Prescott all have only won ONE playoff game in their first 5 or 6 years. Did anyone say Manning and Brees should be cut like they suggest Dak should be??? Would anyone try to replace Manning and Brees with Baker Mayfield and Jimmy G, like some "wanna be" geniuses around here suggests??

Ive never seen a 4th round draft pick quarterback held to higher standards than first round draft picks like Dak has been.... have yall???
 

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Soooo.... if this record Dak is tied for is solely due to the offensive line and Zeke..... why haven't other thousands of other quarterbacks within 100 years of football been able to tie the NFL records with game-winning drives in their first four years???

Not comparing Dak to these other quarterbacks Im about to name, but Brady, Elway, and a few other quarterbacks get praised for the ability to comeback from being down to win the game.

So why when other quarterbacks come back and win, they're praised and lifted up on shoulders, etc.... but when Dak ties the NFL RECORD for this in his first four years.... its because of this person or that guy??? **** is so double standard its hilarious.

Name me ONE fourth round quarterback in NFL history who has pretty much over-achieved his draft position and is expected to do MORE than the first round quarterbacks he plays against. Dak is held to a higher standard than 1st and 2nd round quarterbacks. Can anyone explain this??

Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Dak Prescott all have only won ONE playoff game in their first 5 or 6 years. Did anyone say Manning and Brees should be cut like they suggest Dak should be??? Would anyone try to replace Manning and Brees with Baker Mayfield and Jimmy G, like some "wanna be" geniuses around here suggests??

Ive never seen a 4th round draft pick quarterback held to higher standards than first round draft picks like Dak has been.... have yall???[/QUOTE. Some people say cowboy fans are not very knowledgeable of the game of football. Reading some these post only confirms that belief.
 

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nothing of any importance against any good teams. mostly wins in the worst division in the NFL . Name one game against a winning team where he led a winning drive. very few , maybe against the patriots last season ? too scarse

I'd say his commanding control over the division is a very good thing. Especially with how he pretty much owns Philly. His record against the division rivals is very good overall.
 

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Soooo.... if this record Dak is tied for is solely due to the offensive line and Zeke..... why haven't other thousands of other quarterbacks within 100 years of football been able to tie the NFL records with game-winning drives in their first four years???

Not comparing Dak to these other quarterbacks Im about to name, but Brady, Elway, and a few other quarterbacks get praised for the ability to comeback from being down to win the game.

So why when other quarterbacks come back and win, they're praised and lifted up on shoulders, etc.... but when Dak ties the NFL RECORD for this in his first four years.... its because of this person or that guy??? **** is so double standard its hilarious.

Name me ONE fourth round quarterback in NFL history who has pretty much over-achieved his draft position and is expected to do MORE than the first round quarterbacks he plays against. Dak is held to a higher standard than 1st and 2nd round quarterbacks. Can anyone explain this??

Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Dak Prescott all have only won ONE playoff game in their first 5 or 6 years. Did anyone say Manning and Brees should be cut like they suggest Dak should be??? Would anyone try to replace Manning and Brees with Baker Mayfield and Jimmy G, like some "wanna be" geniuses around here suggests??

Ive never seen a 4th round draft pick quarterback held to higher standards than first round draft picks like Dak has been.... have yall???

Not only that, but he's been the best QB of his draft class. Goff got traded because his attitude is awful and he's not a very good QB. Wentz, well, overhyped much? Also, Dak owns Wentz. And the rest of the QBs aside from Goff, Wentz, and Dak, I think are out of the NFL. Mind you, we nearly traded up for Paxton Lynch. That would have been such a disaster, it's not even funny.
 

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I'd say his commanding control over the division is a very good thing. Especially with how he pretty much owns Philly. His record against the division rivals is very good overall.
That's what we're bragging about now? Recent "commanding control" over....Philly?
 

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While the OP likes to contend that "Dak may not be the answer," there's always an outside chance that he may -- who knew?! :omg:
 

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It’s true. The NFL is crafting an NFC East trophy shaped like a dumpster that should satisfy some here.

So true -- I'm satisfied simply being entertained . . . after all, let's face it -- it's like, our destiny, or something. :huh:
 
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