Video: Stephen A. Smith: Dak is easily a Top 10 QB!

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I'm pretty sure you have called Stephen A. a major hack and Cowboy hater, but you love him when he's propping up Dak, right?

Stephen A. is an attention seeker along the same line as Jerry, and you jumped right in because today's topic was Dak. I guess it doesn't matter that a week from now he will be calling Dak average and you will go back to calling him a hack.

Stephen A only said this for views and clicks. Everyone knows Dak isn't top 10. 12 to 15 ish at best.

And no, the debate is not over and will never be. You still complain about Romo and he's been out of the league for 6 years.

Although I believe Dak is top 10, I agree with what you have said here about Stephen A. Didn't watch the video and have only ever watched one of his viedos because he just says whatever he needs to to get views, and sadly, many give them to him.

For what it's worth, Dak was top 10 the first half of last season. I don't believe he was the second half of the season after he got hurt. As long as he's healthy, I think he'll be top 10 again this year.
 

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Although I believe Dak is top 10, I agree with what you have said here about Stephen A. Didn't watch the video and have only ever watched one of his viedos because he just says whatever he needs to to get views, and sadly, many give them to him.

For what it's worth, Dak was top 10 the first half of last season. I don't believe he was the second half of the season after he got hurt. As long as he's healthy, I think he'll be top 10 again this year.
Stephen A. Smith has been defending and propping up Dak for several years now. He didn't just say this just for ratings. He truly believes Dak is easily Top 10.
 

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Wilson, Stafford and Carr are not better than Dak.

Wilson used to be, but age has finally caught up to him. The same goes for Stafford. He got lucky to be plugged in a team loaded with talent at every position last year. Carr has always been good but at the same time commits game costing mistakes.
You missed the point. It's all opinion.
 

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Yeah, that team going to the SB came right out of left field for me. Never expected it. It's weird how some defenses can dial it up a notch towards the end of the season. I've seen that before.
I watched them sign DJ Reader a couple years ago, and then pick up Ogunjobi and Hendrickson in FA and knew they were forming a super bowl DLine. Didn't expect it this soon though!!!
 

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Stephen A. Smith has been defending and propping up Dak for several years now. He didn't just say this just for ratings. He truly believes Dak is easily Top 10.
Dak is so hard to rate at present. For the first 6 games, he was top 3. And then he got hurt, and then he wasn't good after that, prolly in the 12-20 range somewhere. It's not often you see a QB playing that well, and then that badly for such long stretches. Strange stuff.
 

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Stephen A. Smith has been defending and propping up Dak for several years now. He didn't just say this just for ratings. He truly believes Dak is easily Top 10.

You can also find plenty of examples of him being critical of Dak. Maybe he believes he's top 10, but he primarily says what he says to draw attention.
 

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Dak is so hard to rate at present. For the first 6 games, he was top 3. And then he got hurt, and then he wasn't good after that, prolly in the 12-20 range somewhere. It's not often you see a QB playing that well, and then that badly for such long stretches. Strange stuff.

Don't think it's all that strange. He got hurt. A lot of players don't play as well after an injury.

I believe he was favoring his leg. I believe it was Romo who pointed out during one telecast how he was lifting that leg when he threw. Release points, power, accuracy all get affected by minute changes in technique.
 

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Dak is so hard to rate at present. For the first 6 games, he was top 3. And then he got hurt, and then he wasn't good after that, prolly in the 12-20 range somewhere. It's not often you see a QB playing that well, and then that badly for such long stretches. Strange stuff.
Moore runs through all of his new play designs about six weeks into the season. After that he goes back to the Garrett days with his play calling. So Dak looking average after week six is the norm now.
 

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Moore runs through all of his new play designs about six weeks into the season. After that he goes back to the Garrett days with his play calling. So Dak looking average after week six is the norm now.
Now im not a fan of Moore

but Moore comes up with new plays all season long, his issue is rhythm and handling momentum.....if Pollard or Elliott start ripping off chunk plays hes going to run a trick play that'll ruin all momentum we have and lead to a punt....

if the defense forces a big turnover and he knows Dak is in the zone and hot he'll call a screen play that gets us 2 yards at best and kills the momentum instead of calling a vertical pass downfield
 

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I really don't care about that injury (in 2021). If you can't play you don't. If you can you do. And then everything you do on the field counts. And he sucked from week 7 on, only got his points against trash teams. Like someone said, I trust my eyes more than some/any ratings seekint talking head.

Now I wouldn't mind Dak proving me wrong next season, but "I wouldn't mind Dak proving me wrong next season" could have been said everytime since 2016, it's tiresome. Good enough to rack up some reg season numbers but an absolute fail when it comes to the play offs. Yes it's a team sport bla bla...

And as I said a couple of times now, I wont care about standings and reg season stats anymore. Unless he starts winning play off games (as in "making the difference"), he'll never be in the top 10 or anywhere near them. Team sport my ***, how about him leading the team to some play off wins for a change? Overcoming the odds starts at his position.
 
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I really don't care about that injury (in 2021). If you can't play you don't. If you can you do. And then everything you do on the field counts. And he sucked from week 7 on, only got his points against trash teams. Like someone said, I trust my eyes more than some/any ratings seekint talking head.

Now I wouldn't mind Dak proving me wrong next season, but "I wouldn't mind Dak proving me wrong next season" could have been said everytime since 2016, it's tiresome. Good enough to rack up some reg season numbers but an absolute fail when it comes to the play offs. Yes it's a team sport bla bla...

And as I said a couple of times now, I wont care about standings and reg season stats anymore. Unless he starts winning play off games (as in "making the difference"), he'll never be in the top 10 or anywhere near them. Team sport my ***, how about him leading the team to some play off wins for a change? Overcoming the odds starts at his position.
It's a team sport. Dak did overcome the odds. He was not expected to play in 2021, much less produce the numbers he did. If you can't appreciate his drastic improvement and how much better physically he is today (best shape in his life), you're simply ranting & raving (which has gotten quite boorish around here from so many who truly don't appreciate Dak's progress and performances).
 
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When the Cowboys hating Stephen A. Smith vehemently states how Dak is EASILY a Top 10 QB today in the NFL, well, the debate is over!



What say you?
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Please don't co-sign a guy who hates the Cowboys but can't do a show without talking about them within the first segment of every show lol.. It's called ratings, he needs the Cowboys for his own survival otherwise why spend so much time laughing at us and taunting us for being Cowboys fans.. Stephen A-hole Smith is the lowest form of scum you'll find on TV, and anything he has to say about the Dallas Cowboys lacks journalistic integrity and should not be taken for any value..

In my humble opinion Dak is on the very edge of the top 10 QB's heading into the upcoming NFL season, but let's see where he ends up at the end of the season.. that's what really matters isn't it??
 

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I don't know about that.

By late November 2021, no QB was better against the blitz than Dak.

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Looks like Dak was doing well with 8 games still to go in the season!
I think we all know Dak had a nice 1st half of the season.

Not sure about by pregame Nov 17, but by the end of the year it was Stafford, with a140 rating, 17 TDs and 0 ints when blitzed

He also became the first QB in NFL history to go the the entire season and playoffs with a 4 th qtr int

Fwiw, I did see that for the full season, Dak was one of the best on designed rollouts..
 
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I think that Dak as top 10 is generally accepted. It's his pay check and the 400 yard games / flirtation with elite status that start generating, at different points, the real debate, which was whether or not he is elite or top 5. I believe that debate is parked now and has to prove he is...until then he isn't. But top 10 is plenty good enough.

And before anyone says i'm a hater for saying the debate is parked...I was one tooting his horn as elite. This is me saying given the most current information my assessment has changed. I hope he changes that opinion again, but this is where we are for now.
This is all accurate.
He has moments where he is top 5 but it isn't consistent enough to say he warrants that spot overall.
He is however 100% in the top 10.
Could go anywhere 6-9 depending upon the day and time and which young guys someone falls in love with.

but a few facts:
Dak outplayed Josh Allen last year -- until the playoffs. Josh hit a level in the playoffs Dak has not.
Dak accounted for 40 TDs and 26 TO, the fumbles were far too high but this ratio is still really good and laps people like Kyler Murray.

All in all LAST year I'd rank Dak 8th. I think the ankle injury and lack of ball control with fumbles cost him a spot at 6. It would have taken a long playoff run to crack top 5.
 

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Looks like Dak was doing well with 8 games still to go in the season!
I think we all know Dak had a nice 1st half of the season.

Not sure about by pregame Nov 17, but by the end of the year it was Stafford, with a140 rating, 17 TDs and 0 ints when blitzed

He also became the first QB in NFL history to go the the entire season and playoffs with a 4 th qtr int

Fwiw, I did see that for the full season, Dak was one of the best on designed rollouts..
Dak injured his ankle in week 6.
He had a very hesitant performance as he came back from that.
Also worth noting the Cowboys entire WR room was out with COVID across like 3 weeks.
that mid-season area was just ugly.

But Dallas won 5 of the final 6 games including putting up 50+ twice.
 

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But Dallas won 5 of the final 6 games including putting up 50+ twice.

Those 3rd and 4th team scrubs the Eagles played in their last game against Dallas was really challenging. Dak lit them up. I wonder why he wasn't as successful in the playoff game...
 

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Dak injured his ankle in week 6.
He had a very hesitant performance as he came back from that.
Also worth noting the Cowboys entire WR room was out with COVID across like 3 weeks.
that mid-season area was just ugly.

But Dallas won 5 of the final 6 games including putting up 50+ twice.
I hear you and was also aware of that, jt.

The side discussion I was in was about who was the best for the entire season vs the blitz last year.
 
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