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Will be interesting to see if the league starts at 24 games+.
Why do that? Because they would then allow Watson to appeal and with good behavior for 12 months remove the remaining games.
I think the league's best result is a full year and no recurrence of issues for Watson.
Allows him to keep his income and sit essentially 2 full years.
Why do that? Because they would then allow Watson to appeal and with good behavior for 12 months remove the remaining games.
I think the league's best result is a full year and no recurrence of issues for Watson.
Allows him to keep his income and sit essentially 2 full years.
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What a weird basket for the Browns to put all their eggs into. I wouldn't want this dood anywhere near my team. Just a massive distraction.
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Because there is no penalty other than money.
Him paying any significant sum is saying he is guilty.
No different than suing a company because their equipment crushed your foot.
If you get medical and attorney expenses reimbursed plus pay for time off you basically are going to take that deal rather than be broke and out of pocket for it all.
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This is what I think as well tho perhaps not 2 full seasons but definitely more than 1 full season to allow more time.
Watson can use all his CLE money to pay these women off lol.
The real issue for him is can he get al this to an agreement state than keep noise down for 12 months???
Once he agrees and all is announced he will be really vulnerable to any other women who want to sue because NFL would have grounds to extend, double or more that suspension.
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What is the NFL waiting for?
Zeke was suspended the summer of 2017 due to baseless charges of domestic abuse by his ex-girlfriend which investigators could not find concrete evidence tying Zeke to the alleged abuse. Yet, Badell and his ex-Eagles minions whom he has surrounded himself with at the league office wasted no time suspending Zeke 6 games during that summer of 2017.
Deshaun Watson now has 24 women accusing him of sexual assault and harassment, which Watson just settled out of court to pay off 20 of them, yet Badell and his minions have done nothing. Badell wasted no time laying down the law against Zeke based on 1 baseless charge, yet Badell is taking his time to lay the law down against Deshaun while 24 different women have accused him of sexual assault and harassment. What is Badell waiting for?
Zeke was suspended the summer of 2017 due to baseless charges of domestic abuse by his ex-girlfriend which investigators could not find concrete evidence tying Zeke to the alleged abuse. Yet, Badell and his ex-Eagles minions whom he has surrounded himself with at the league office wasted no time suspending Zeke 6 games during that summer of 2017.
Deshaun Watson now has 24 women accusing him of sexual assault and harassment, which Watson just settled out of court to pay off 20 of them, yet Badell and his minions have done nothing. Badell wasted no time laying down the law against Zeke based on 1 baseless charge, yet Badell is taking his time to lay the law down against Deshaun while 24 different women have accused him of sexual assault and harassment. What is Badell waiting for?
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You might be right.
We'll see how it plays out.
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It will be one year, with credit for time served last year, so net effect is he plays opening day 2022.
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The Zeke stuff was ultra-trash because much of the complaints were around a college ex-girlfriend and it became very apparent they had a mutually toxic relationship.
But this Watson stuff hasn't been settled yet because the scope keeps increasing.
Make no mistake the league has advised Watson to settle this stuff.
They prefer to rule on settled matters and are likely to rule this month.
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Nope. He chose not to play last year, that has zero to do with the league.
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I was being facetious
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Wasn't Elliot's suspension announced in August of that season? I could see the same time frame for Watson's announcement of whatever they decide. Maybe right before training camps commence in late July.
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Well they couldnt because he got paid for last year so they would need to pay the Texans back if that counted (he was basically benched not suspended)....BUT
if they could do it...WHATCH OUT...the NFL has had some rocky roads of late, with A certain QB and anthems and such..if this happens all of that will look like childs play to what the blowback will be...Me too movement with the whole DC team problem and you pile on with that...get your popcorn ready.
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The NFL should match the Trevor Bauer suspension, at least in proportion to games per season.
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https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018 Policies/2018 Personal Conduct Policy.pdf
NFL PERSONAL CONDUCT POLICY
League Policies for Players
2018
"...Following review, the Commissioner, either directly or through a member of his staff, will communicate his decision to the player regarding any disciplinary action to be taken. Depending on the nature of the violation and the player’s record, discipline may be a fine, a suspension for a fixed or an indefinite period of time, a combination of the two, or banishment from the league with an opportunity to reapply...
With regard to violations of the Personal Conduct Policy that involve: (i) criminal assault or battery (felony); (ii) domestic violence, dating violence, child abuse and other forms of family violence; or (iii) sexual assault involving physical force or committed against someone incapable of giving consent, a first offense will subject the offender to a baseline suspension without pay of six games, with consideration given to any aggravating or mitigating factors. The presence of possible aggravating factors may warrant a longer suspension. Possible aggravating factors include, but are not limited to, a prior violation of the Personal Conduct Policy, similar misconduct before joining the NFL, violence involving a weapon, choking, repeated striking, or when an act is committed against a particularly vulnerable person, such as a child, a pregnant woman, or an elderly person, or where the act is committed in the presence of a child. A second offense will result in permanent banishment from the NFL. An individual who has been banished may petition for reinstatement after one year, but there is no presumption or assurance that the petition will be granted..."
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Without question, Watson will get six games. The real question is how many more games will he miss?
As always, policy gives Goodell leeway in discipline enforcement. Another consideration is policy making a slight differentiation between criminal and non-criminal (i.e. civil) definitions.
Watson was hit with several dozen civil lawsuits. If-and-until Watson gets indicted for criminal charges (which failed last March), Goodell can justify his disciplinary actions as severe but 'fair'. That takes permanent banishment (subject to automatic appeal) off the table and rests 'fixed or indefinite period of time' squarely on top of it.
No public relations blitz can dismiss the large number of civil lawsuits. It is nothing Goodell can do about that. Any suspension less than one year will not be seen as 'severe enough'.
Two years or more will create even more attention since enough of the Browns fanbase will be publicly voicing their discontent with their quarterback situation remaining unresolved. Media coverage would re-ignite negatively, perhaps too strongly, and that is the LAST thing Goodell would want.
In my opinion, the disciplinary compromise will fall between one and two years. The league's black eye will have recovered by the Super Bowl. Cleveland's front office will have accurately projected how events would play out given the information they had obtained themselves. The only public 'outrage' will be directed at Goodell during the late April draft with the same moronic booing-and-hissing he has received for practically his entire tenure it seems (which only makes the owners want to make him even richer lol). Watson will return for OTA's. Then minicamp. Then first training camp. The NFL may schedule his 2023 team's first couple of games early Sundays. No primetime. No Thursdays. His first late game Sunday or primetime game will not be promo blitzed by the network broadcasting the game. And Watson will finally trot out under the big lights for the first time, probably without much public protest inside or outside the stadium.
Well. That is how I see it all playing out.
NFL PERSONAL CONDUCT POLICY
League Policies for Players
2018
"...Following review, the Commissioner, either directly or through a member of his staff, will communicate his decision to the player regarding any disciplinary action to be taken. Depending on the nature of the violation and the player’s record, discipline may be a fine, a suspension for a fixed or an indefinite period of time, a combination of the two, or banishment from the league with an opportunity to reapply...
With regard to violations of the Personal Conduct Policy that involve: (i) criminal assault or battery (felony); (ii) domestic violence, dating violence, child abuse and other forms of family violence; or (iii) sexual assault involving physical force or committed against someone incapable of giving consent, a first offense will subject the offender to a baseline suspension without pay of six games, with consideration given to any aggravating or mitigating factors. The presence of possible aggravating factors may warrant a longer suspension. Possible aggravating factors include, but are not limited to, a prior violation of the Personal Conduct Policy, similar misconduct before joining the NFL, violence involving a weapon, choking, repeated striking, or when an act is committed against a particularly vulnerable person, such as a child, a pregnant woman, or an elderly person, or where the act is committed in the presence of a child. A second offense will result in permanent banishment from the NFL. An individual who has been banished may petition for reinstatement after one year, but there is no presumption or assurance that the petition will be granted..."
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Without question, Watson will get six games. The real question is how many more games will he miss?
As always, policy gives Goodell leeway in discipline enforcement. Another consideration is policy making a slight differentiation between criminal and non-criminal (i.e. civil) definitions.
Watson was hit with several dozen civil lawsuits. If-and-until Watson gets indicted for criminal charges (which failed last March), Goodell can justify his disciplinary actions as severe but 'fair'. That takes permanent banishment (subject to automatic appeal) off the table and rests 'fixed or indefinite period of time' squarely on top of it.
No public relations blitz can dismiss the large number of civil lawsuits. It is nothing Goodell can do about that. Any suspension less than one year will not be seen as 'severe enough'.
Two years or more will create even more attention since enough of the Browns fanbase will be publicly voicing their discontent with their quarterback situation remaining unresolved. Media coverage would re-ignite negatively, perhaps too strongly, and that is the LAST thing Goodell would want.
In my opinion, the disciplinary compromise will fall between one and two years. The league's black eye will have recovered by the Super Bowl. Cleveland's front office will have accurately projected how events would play out given the information they had obtained themselves. The only public 'outrage' will be directed at Goodell during the late April draft with the same moronic booing-and-hissing he has received for practically his entire tenure it seems (which only makes the owners want to make him even richer lol). Watson will return for OTA's. Then minicamp. Then first training camp. The NFL may schedule his 2023 team's first couple of games early Sundays. No primetime. No Thursdays. His first late game Sunday or primetime game will not be promo blitzed by the network broadcasting the game. And Watson will finally trot out under the big lights for the first time, probably without much public protest inside or outside the stadium.
Well. That is how I see it all playing out.
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Should be at a season suspension minimum that cant be knocked down. Zeke got 6 games for 1 accusation this dude has 24.
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but but but, I was told he didn't do anything wrong!
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He already missed last year....I'm sure he's missing this year too