Twitter: You think Dak's contract is bad?

thunderpimp91

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In a perfect world for the owners, but not the players lol
It would have been hard to front load his contract though. That requires space
And by holding on to cap space now kinda serves the same result
Crazy thing is the Cowboys did front load his contract. They paid him $75MM in year 1. That's actually what kept his cap hit so low year 1 and 2. Now it jumps $30MM next season unless the Cowboys can pull off some accounting tricks to get that down. Crazy thing is I'm sure they can do it, but now you are adding money to years after his contract is up. In theory, Dak could walk after 2024 and the Cowboys still be on the hook for $30+ Million in dead space.
 

john van brocklin

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In a perfect world for the owners, but not the players lol
It would have been hard to front load his contract though. That requires space
And by holding on to cap space now kinda serves the same result
Really was referring to the fact that the annual value is high when a QB first signs,
but after several years of the salary cap going up and other QBs signing for more, the end of the contract looks like a bargain per year.
 

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see steve this is a classic example of what i mentioned. This is what you do no one said a word about zeke yet here you are bringing him in the thread. You are obsessed with all things zeke. Maybe youre carrying over frustration from another thread .That said they both are overpaid Dak and Zeke as is Dlaw as was Witten as was Romo as was Jaylon smith its what the cowboys do and if the Eagles do that with Hurts it will be dumb but not surprising alot of athletes are overpaid. Market value alot of times is overpaying Unless they work for the Patriots they are most likely getting overpaid
And see this is why you KEEP harassing me about this. You keep picking the wrong motivation. I said what I said not because of zeke...but because of the value of DAK.

It SHOULD be very simple to those not looking for an angle. If you value Dak....you can thank zeke for it. It wasn't 2016 Dak that put fear in the hearts of defenses.
 

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I'm guessing it assumes he gets them to the postseason......

What does that even prove? A team can get to the post season with a crappy QB, solid run game and a decent defense. The Jets went to 2 AFC Championship games in a row led by Mark Sanchez. One of those years right through the Colts with Manning and the Patriots with Brady. All on the run game and solid defense. If the Eagles win the division, it will be for similar reasons.
 

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Daks contract is not what’s preventing this franchise from more success.

Like you said , won’t even be top 10 soon.

You should already know this. Where Dak ranks in highest paid QBs has nothing to do with the impact his contract has on the team. So it's pointless to use that as an example. For example, if Jerry doesn't restructure Dak's contract next year, Dak will be one of the highest cap hits in the league. That's what matters.
 

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And see this is why you KEEP harassing me about this. You keep picking the wrong motivation. I said what I said not because of zeke...but because of the value of DAK.

It SHOULD be very simple to those not looking for an angle. If you value Dak....you can thank zeke for it. It wasn't 2016 Dak that put fear in the hearts of defenses.

But zeke's IS bad? Zeke made dak let's pay him. this is what you said.

I guess Im slow because i dont see the angle. A thread about jalen Hurts basically saying if you think Daks contract is bad if Jaylon gets paid its even worse. whats that got to do with Zeke? and quite frankly it was both of them together that put fear in defenses. I can appreciate Zekes 2016 year in fact I long for a repeat but frankly he isnt even close to that and will never be. The wear and tear has taken its toll. I keep calling you out because its obvious to everyone not named Stevethecowboy and Ronnie that you are overly sensitive about anything Zeke related and even if the topic isnt Zeke and about Dak you find ways to bring him into it

I know Im a hater
 

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Crazy thing is the Cowboys did front load his contract. They paid him $75MM in year 1. That's actually what kept his cap hit so low year 1 and 2. Now it jumps $30MM next season unless the Cowboys can pull off some accounting tricks to get that down. Crazy thing is I'm sure they can do it, but now you are adding money to years after his contract is up. In theory, Dak could walk after 2024 and the Cowboys still be on the hook for $30+ Million in dead space.

They don't have to do any crazy accounting tricks. That's why they are saving cap space.
 

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They bungled his contract situation for years.
If they felt he was their long term QB they should have locked him up earlier and cheaper.
Should have offered him 5 years 100 million. If he didn't accept, apply either the First round tender or non exclusive tagged him. Dallas paid him close to 100 million more than they should have for the same length of service.
 

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Really was referring to the fact that the annual value is high when a QB first signs,
but after several years of the salary cap going up and other QBs signing for more, the end of the contract looks like a bargain per year.
Very true
A Mahomes contract will be eclipsed by a lesser player just because he’s the one up for a contract at that time. Contracts after one or two years don’t really reflect the top player at any position
As long as revenue keeps rising, so will contracts
It’s just the nature of revenue sharing
 

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I don't care what 31 other starting QBs contracts are. Dak has a bad contract.
Actually has has a much better contract than some others. It has a quick out which means you can move on faster. It’s well in line with market value and that’s what a player costs
If you don’t want a top 5-7 QB then you won’t ever have a QB because the odds of being in position to draft a top tier QB is always slim unless you go a decade winning one or two games
 

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All joking aside Hurts could be in the running for MVP this season if the Eagles stay healthy. If Brown stays in one piece then Hurts will fill his boots. Not really much difference between him and Prescott with the latter likely rinsing the Cowboys of $50 million a season in a few years.
 

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Very true
A Mahomes contract will be eclipsed by a lesser player just because he’s the one up for a contract at that time. Contracts after one or two years don’t really reflect the top player at any position
As long as revenue keeps rising, so will contracts
It’s just the nature of revenue sharing
Yep, it's why I wished they could have signed dak to a long term deal.
But dak was smart to hold out for a shorter deal.
 
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