CFZ DT Trysten Hill could surprise

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quickccc said:
What would comprise Hill's roster chances, is Gholston (a Quinn pick) adding bulk to supposedly be moved inside; still to be determined
If it will be for nickel-rush sub, or full time DT.

- What would help Hill's chances may be because of his experiences as both 3tech, and and occasionally 1 tech,3 and 4 man DL front, combined with his
Athleticism and tools, I can still see Trysten being a part of this DT rotation.
Plus I believe we’re going with only two 1 techs, which likely would be Watkins and rookie Ridgeway.

I’m just not that optimistic about Quinton Bohanna, who really moves so well for a 330+ pound guy, but displayed nuthin’ as a run defense performer his rookie.
He was pretty much always on the ground, on his backside, with opposing linemen driving into the ground, or wipe-washing him outta the run lanes...in every single
game i saw him in.
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When Gholston was drafted, thought he would be groomed to eventually replace DLaw on the strong-side. He does have ability to kick inside on the nickel, but still believe he is a base DE. Injuries could solve the numbers crunch, but I think if Bohanna shows something in camp, they may just keep the 2 lids over Watkins. We have a few who can play the 1, even if Watkins got released. Still believe Basham could be the guy most in trouble, wasn't great last season and took many of the snaps. If would think they want some of their younger prospects to see more field action.
 
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We will have to wait and see, but if not for the injuries I think Hill would be way ahead of where he is now. We'll have to see how motivated he is in his contract year, but I always thought he had some talent. But he has to show it on the field.
 

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He's a rotational DT at this point. Expecting anything more than that is just wishful thinking at this point.
 
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Ken said:
Let me clarify...

I would like nothing better than to be wrong about Hill and he turns into a 10 sack 3 tech. That would be absolutely wonderful.

I watched him in the SF game not that long ago, unfortunately, and him getting pushed all over the field is still fresh in my mind though.

3 years, hasn't shown it....likely won't ever show it.
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Your mind is probably playing tricks on you. Hill played 23 of 65 defensive snaps in that game.. Which means that if you watched someone being pushed all over the field, 2/3 of the time it was someone other than Hill.. Hill was credited with 2 tackles in his 23 snaps. Tarrell Basham played the same number of snaps and was credited with none. Gallimore played 30 snaps and had 3 tackles. I would mildly disagree that Hill has not "shown it" yet. He has flashed at times but consistent with the scouting report on him.. he had some growing up to do coming into the league. That happens with most 20 year olds that you draft. Most can't handle what they get thrown into either on or off the field. I still like the toolset and hold out hope that Quinn can get the most out of him. As for becoming a 10 sack 3 tech? Not in a defense that values rotating fresh bodies in as much as ours appears to. .
 
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Hill's problem is he cannot stay healthy even to practice. If he is healthy I like him better than Gallimore.

People seem high on Gallimore for some reason but he was healthy for the last 5 games and the playoffs. He was front and center when our interior DL play was at it's worst. Remember all the cutback lanes?
 
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RonnieT24 said:
Your mind is probably playing tricks on you. Hill played 23 of 65 defensive snaps in that game.. Which means that if you watched someone being pushed all over the field, 2/3 of the time it was someone other than Hill.. Hill was credited with 2 tackles in his 23 snaps. Tarrell Basham played the same number of snaps and was credited with none. Gallimore played 30 snaps and had 3 tackles. I would mildly disagree that Hill has not "shown it" yet. He has flashed at times but consistent with the scouting report on him.. he had some growing up to do coming into the league. That happens with most 20 year olds that you draft. Most can't handle what they get thrown into either on or off the field. I still like the toolset and hold out hope that Quinn can get the most out of him. As for becoming a 10 sack 3 tech? Not in a defense that values rotating fresh bodies in as much as ours appears to. .
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Looks like you have the most-informed opinion of Hill so far.

I didn't realize he was only 20 when we drafted him, but that does make a lot of sense.

If he stays healthy, this is the year that will tell the tale.
 

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DeaconMoss said:
I am surprised to see an article of hope for this terrible pick. DK Metcalf and Diontae Johnson were on the board. Take Metcalf and then we could have traded Cooper and the Cedee pick to #6 for Herbert in 2020.
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You REALLY think the Chargers, who needed a quarterback, would have taken that deal?
 
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.....haha ..oh man, that would be something. But sorry, I just don't see it. This kid looked to need special discipline just to stay motivated.
 

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Not trying to pirate this thread, but this is a point (Gallup injury) that's been glossed over by Cowboys brass and the media all spring. I borrow a quote from the knowledgable RonnieT24 from this thread on Hill's ACL injury.
"He was never going to be back to full strength coming off a torn ACL. Those things take a full year to get right for people not named Adrian Peterson."
Now do the math on this Gallup injury (January 2) and we see why Dallas' receiving corps will be a little flat for a lot longer than the Joneses are claiming.
 
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Mcsports said:
Not trying to pirate this thread, but this is a point (Gallup injury) that's been glossed over by Cowboys brass and the media all spring. I borrow a quote from the knowledgable RonnieT24 from this thread on Hill's ACL injury.
"He was never going to be back to full strength coming off a torn ACL. Those things take a full year to get right for people not named Adrian Peterson."
Now do the math on this Gallup injury (January 2) and we see why Dallas' receiving corps will be a little flat for a lot longer than the Joneses are claiming.
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Stop the presses! The Jones's lie about everything? Who knew?
 
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Trysten "baby cakes" Hill is down to his last hurrah! This 2022 training camp and preseason will determine whether he remains a Dallas Cowboy or not going forward.
 
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RonnieT24 said:
Your mind is probably playing tricks on you. Hill played 23 of 65 defensive snaps in that game.. Which means that if you watched someone being pushed all over the field, 2/3 of the time it was someone other than Hill.. Hill was credited with 2 tackles in his 23 snaps. Tarrell Basham played the same number of snaps and was credited with none. Gallimore played 30 snaps and had 3 tackles. I would mildly disagree that Hill has not "shown it" yet. He has flashed at times but consistent with the scouting report on him.. he had some growing up to do coming into the league. That happens with most 20 year olds that you draft. Most can't handle what they get thrown into either on or off the field. I still like the toolset and hold out hope that Quinn can get the most out of him. As for becoming a 10 sack 3 tech? Not in a defense that values rotating fresh bodies in as much as ours appears to. .
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I would say on half of those he was pushed around.

It jumped out at me and I wasn't even looking for it, i believe I was reviewing the futility fo Gregory in that game.

He took snaps away from Osa (29 snaps). I had forgotten Osa's number and kept seeing 97 flashing all over. It was Osa...the guy has freakish ability imo.
 
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