Micah Parsons Believes He And Diggs Can Be "Even Better" Than Jalen Ramsey And Aaron Donald

KeepinTime · Jul 6, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
I read this as "Madonna" and thought it was strange.

It would be Borderline strange but sometimes you just have to shoot for that Lucky Star so Papa Don’t Preach.

phildadon86 · Jul 6, 2022

RS12 said:
Micah has HOF ability. I don't think Diggs will ever be as good as Ramsey though. Makes big plays but gets burnt more than you would like on routine plays.

Ramsey got burned multiple times in the SB. And I mean BADLY. When Ramsey allowed over 800 yards in coverage no one cared. And he didnt have 11 picks to go with it. Diggs does it and all anyone cares about is the yards he gave up. Amazing.

G2 · Jul 6, 2022

Runwildboys said:
What an ironic post.

Loaded

DFWJC · Jul 6, 2022

Those were two GREAT draft picks.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · Jul 6, 2022

Parsons is drinking the kool-aid.
Diggs has room to improve, Parsons not so much.

Doomsday101 · Jul 6, 2022

RS12 said:
Micah has HOF ability. I don't think Diggs will ever be as good as Ramsey though. Makes big plays but gets burnt more than you would like on routine plays.

Not so sure about that Ramsey got targeted fewer times yet gave up more completions than Diggs

RS12 · Jul 6, 2022

phildadon86 said:
Ramsey got burned multiple times in the SB. And I mean BADLY. When Ramsey allowed over 800 yards in coverage no one cared. And he didnt have 11 picks to go with it. Diggs does it and all anyone cares about is the yards he gave up. Amazing.

Ramsey was playing with two shoulders that required off season surgeries, against one of the hottest QB/WR combos in the league. Donald is a HOF lock. Ramsey is on track.

MountaineerCowboy · Jul 6, 2022

phildadon86 said:
Ramsey got burned multiple times in the SB. And I mean BADLY. When Ramsey allowed over 800 yards in coverage no one cared. And he didnt have 11 picks to go with it. Diggs does it and all anyone cares about is the yards he gave up. Amazing.

Ramsey gave up 800 yards his rookie season and hasn't come close to giving up that much since. He has made 3 All-Pro teams since then though.

Diggs gave up more receiving yards playing 11 games his rookie season than Ramsey has given up in any season besides his rookie season.

I like Diggs, but when it comes to giving up yards it's not even a fair debate.

phildadon86 · Jul 6, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Ramsey gave up 800 yards his rookie season and hasn't come close to giving up that much since. He has made 3 All-Pro teams since then though.

Diggs gave up more receiving yards playing 11 games his rookie season than Ramsey has given up in any season besides his rookie season.

I like Diggs, but when it comes to giving up yards it's not even a fair debate.

I don't like the yards debate because Diggs got the blame for Kazee's mistakes a lot of the time (Pats game as an example). How many TD's did Diggs give up?

I am in no way saying Diggs is better than Ramsey btw lol

Runwildboys · Jul 6, 2022

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
Parsons is drinking the kool-aid.
Diggs has room to improve, Parsons not so much.

Parsons is MAKING the Kool-Aid.

MountaineerCowboy · Jul 6, 2022

Doomsday101 said:
Not so sure about that Ramsey got targeted fewer times yet gave up more completions than Diggs

Ramsey was targeted 5 less times and gave up 4 more catches. Are we supposed to be impressed?

Why did Diggs give up 300 more receiving yards?

Risen Star · Jul 6, 2022

Hopefully they won't get that chance as the Cowboys wisely do not pay Diggs crazy money.

phildadon86 · Jul 6, 2022

What is funny to me regarding the Diggs/Ramsey debate (there really isnt one) The same people who always seem to say "Stats are relative and the eye test also matters" are now using stats to defend Ramsey but not Diggs.

Funny logic.

Doomsday101 · Jul 6, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Ramsey gave up 800 yards his rookie season and hasn't come close to giving up that much since. He has made 3 All-Pro teams since then though.

Diggs gave up more receiving yards playing 11 games his rookie season than Ramsey has given up in any season besides his rookie season.

I like Diggs, but when it comes to giving up yards it's not even a fair debate.

I agree Diggs needs to improve, in 2 season Diggs has 14 ints compared to Ramsey 16 ints in 6 years. Last season Ramsey gave up more completion and Diggs gave up despite the fact Ramsey was targeted less. I do think Ramsey is a top CB in the league but I don't think Diggs is some slob

G2 · Jul 6, 2022

phildadon86 said:
I don't like the yards debate because Diggs got the blame for Kazee's mistakes a lot of the time (Pats game as an example). How many TD's did Diggs give up?

I am in no way saying Diggs is better than Ramsey btw lol

Correct, you would need to know and understand the coverage to even begin a yardage debate. That's one. Two, how it reflects on 1st downs, FGs & TDs is what matters IF you somehow know all the of the coverage on every play.
There are some that have suggested Diggs is "just a ball hawk" with not so great coverage skills. Find me a player that can put himself into position for a dozen picks a couple TDs that can't cover well.
He's not not a prototypical CB.

MountaineerCowboy · Jul 6, 2022

phildadon86 said:
I don't like the yards debate because Diggs got the blame for Kazee's mistakes a lot of the time (Pats game as an example). How many TD's did Diggs give up?

I am in no way saying Diggs is better than Ramsey btw lol

According to PFR Diggs gave up 4 TDs last season. Ramsey gave up 3.

I don't think we can blame Kazee for Diggs giving up 300 more yards than Ramsey. Maybe a few, but 300? lol

MountaineerCowboy · Jul 6, 2022

phildadon86 said:
What is funny to me regarding the Diggs/Ramsey debate (there really isnt one) The same people who always seem to say "Stats are relative and the eye test also matters" are now using stats to defend Ramsey but not Diggs.

Funny logic.

If we go by the eye test then it's def. not close between the two.

Diggs does nothing better than Ramsey besides gets INTs.

If you're expecting 10+ INTs from Diggs every year then you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

Doomsday101 · Jul 6, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Ramsey was targeted 5 less times and gave up 4 more catches. Are we supposed to be impressed?

Why did Diggs give up 300 more receiving yards?

If you think Ramsey is the best then yeah I think Diggs for a 2nd year player did pretty damn well. I think Diggs showed great hands in picking off 11 and a total of 14 in his 2 year career and Ramsey 15 in his 6 years. I agree Diggs has room for improvement but his play last season was big for this defense. Yards do not mean jack, giving up TD does and Diggs did not give up many of those and helped change games with his big plays

phildadon86 · Jul 6, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
According to PFR Diggs gave up 4 TDs last season. Ramsey gave up 3.

I don't think we can blame Kazee for Diggs giving up 300 more yards than Ramsey. Maybe a few, but 300? lol

Well. Like you say. Watch the games. Stats dont tell the whole story.

Kazee did blow a lot of coverages which Diggs took the wrath for.

Also. I dont like that TD argument because one of those touchdowns was just an INSANE catch by a giants player lol. Remember that one? Kazee is the reason for almost 100 of those yards in one game my dude. You cant say stats dont tell the whole story for Dak but then use them to tell the whole story for Diggs. Not really fair on your part.

Runwildboys · Jul 6, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
According to PFR Diggs gave up 4 TDs last season. Ramsey gave up 3.

I don't think we can blame Kazee for Diggs giving up 300 more yards than Ramsey. Maybe a few, but 300? lol

So Diggs gave up one more TD. How many of his int's led to Dallas TDs?

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