Twitter: Amari Cooper: CeeDee Lamb been ready to be WR1

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One of the real knocks on Moore is the fact that he doesn’t like to lock in and rely on primary playmakers to be the engine of the offense. He likes to use multiple weapons and attack the opposite of whatever the defense decides to scheme against.

In theory, it’s nice. But in actuality you need to find the balance that prioritizes your best playermakers but also doesn’t allow defenses to ruin your gameplan by keying in on them. Moore doesn’t have that yet and that was one of Amari’s biggest issues with him. Unfortunately Coop seems to shut down a bit when he sees something he doesn’t like but he has a point.

Let’s hope he develops that this season. He’s young and growing too.

Heres a nice article about it when it was going well lol

https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott

Im not blaming that on Moore. I think that is Dak that does that. I like that Dak throws it around, but he has Ceedee now and he needs to focus on getting him the ball. Every offense needs that unstoppable element.
 

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One of the real knocks on Moore is the fact that he doesn’t like to lock in and rely on primary playmakers to be the engine of the offense. He likes to use multiple weapons and attack the opposite of whatever the defense decides to scheme against.

In theory, it’s nice. But in actuality you need to find the balance that prioritizes your best playermakers but also doesn’t allow defenses to ruin your gameplan by keying in on them. Moore doesn’t have that yet and that was one of Amari’s biggest issues with him. Unfortunately Coop seems to shut down a bit when he sees something he doesn’t like but he has a point.

Let’s hope he develops that this season. He’s young and growing too.

Heres a nice article about it when it was going well lol

https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott


I'll make this easy for you, just LET MIKE DO IT
 

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Im not blaming that on Moore. I think that is Dak that does that. I like that Dak throws it around, but he has Ceedee now and he needs to focus on getting him the ball. Every offense needs that unstoppable element.
Eh I don’t think so. There’s literally an article about it and Moore has said it himself.

Both can be true though, Dak does like to hit who’s available and not force. But Moore did the same thing at Boise and Chris Petersen his HC and mentor has the same philosophy input into his scheme. Bottom line is Moore doesn’t like force feeding a player, that’s before Dak and will be after as well.
 

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Glad there's not bitterness there from Amari. I do think his more laid back who cares demeanor is what has him playing with another team this season though.

Definitely interesting comments on Kellen, and may be a way of taking a nice shot at Kellen and whether he knows how to scheme for his players.
 

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Amari Cooper thinks CeeDee Lamb is ready to be a No. 1 receiver: 'I can't wait to see it happen'

Cooper seems to be a good guy.

I have generally liked Cooper's attitude even though it irks many that he's not more fiery. He usually seems to think before he speaks instead of just blurting out an emotional response.
 

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Im not blaming that on Moore. I think that is Dak that does that. I like that Dak throws it around, but he has Ceedee now and he needs to focus on getting him the ball. Every offense needs that unstoppable element.
Better hope that CD has more tolerance with Dak than Coop had.
 

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I will say this again. Folks want to always blame the coaches, the wr,/players have to be right too in their execution. It's not just scheme a player open, said player have to do his part in the scheme as well to get open, whether that's, coverage recognition with the qb, spacing on the field, or winning on the route.

If the first few plays of the game are vanilla.. Hand offs up the middle.. play actin bootleg rollout pass to TE and other such then who SHOULD get the blame if not the coaches? Specifically the OC?

Check out this list of first offensive snaps for the Cowboys last season:


Game 1:
1 13:18 1 10 DAL 2 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete deep left to Amari Cooper for 28 yards (tackle by Antoine Winfield)

This got me excited.. Like maybe Moore had seen the light.. Backed up on our own 2 yard line and we come out firing!!

It didn't last

Game 2.
1 14:54 1 10 DAL 22 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 1 yard (tackle by Christian Covington)


Game 3:
1 15:00 1 10 DAL 25 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short middle to Dalton Schultz for 8 yards (tackle by T.J. Edwar

Empty backfield.. throw to Schultz over the middle? What are we attacking here?

Game 4:

1 15:00 1 10 DAL 25 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott left end for 2 yards (tackle by Brian Burns)

Dak lateraled to Zeke as he was being sacked. Was meant to be a dropback pass out of three tight end set with only one receiver in. What are we trying to accomplish here? Went unbalanced right and ignored the inside backer coming up the middle. Either terrible play design or poor execution.


Game 5:
1 15:00 1 10 DAL 25 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short left to CeeDee Lamb for 6 yards (tackle by Xavier McKinney)

Flanker screen...Oh the humanity!

followed by

1 14:27 2 4 DAL 31 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right tackle for 2 yards (tackle by Leonard Williams)

Handoff up the middle. Line loses, Zeke has to cut right and fight to get two.

Game 6:
1 14:55 1 10 DAL 12 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 2 yards (tackle by Lawrence Guy and Davon Godchaux)

A return to normalcy..

Game 7:
1 11:49 1 10 DAL 25 0 7 Ezekiel Elliott left tackle for 8 yards (tackle by Danielle Hunter)

Kick out block by LG, Zeke cuts inside of it. But again.. not attacking at all. But with a backup QB I guess I see it.

Game 8:

1 14:51 1 10 DEN 47 0 0 Dak Prescott pass incomplete short left intended for Amari Cooper 2.460 1.910
1 14:45 2 10 DEN 47 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 4 yards (tackle by Shelby Harris)


This one is infuriating. We get the ball at the Denver 38 after TP turns in a nice return.. We follow that up with an incomplete slant and a delay handoff up the middle. Really?

Game 9:
1 14:53 1 10 DAL 27 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right guard for 3 yards (tackle by Erik Harris and Grady Jarrett)

Delay handoff up the middle. Geez.

Game 10:

1 14:55 1 10 DAL 26 0 0 Dak Prescott pass incomplete deep right intended for Michael Gallup 0.670 0.130
1 14:49 2 10 DAL 26 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short right to CeeDee Lamb for 8 yards (tackle by Charvarius Ward and Juan Thornhill) 0.130 0.500
1 14:06 3 2 DAL 34 0 0 Dak Prescott pass incomplete short middle intend

It's like they knew they were playing a quality opponent so they came out at least trying to attack. Problem was.. there was a 20 mph wind.. so opening up trying to go deep was dumb. Gallup was even open but the wind grabbed the ball and caused it to sail over his head. Did the coaches not walk the field or read the weather report?

Game 11:
1 15:00 1 10 DAL 25 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 4 yards (tackle by Brandon Facyson and K.J. Wright) 0.610 0.600
1 14:31 2 6 DAL 29 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right guard for 2 yards (tackle by Yannick Ngakoue)

Back to monumental creativity.

Game 12:

1 11:44 1 10 DAL 23 0 0 Dak Prescott pass incomplete deep left intended for CeeDee Lamb (defended by Marcus Williams) 0.480 -0.070
1 11:36 2 10 DAL 23 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right tackle for no gain (tackle by Malcolm Jenkins) -0.070 -0.760
1 10:57 3 10 DAL 23 0 0 Dak Prescott pass incomplete short middle intended for Noah Brown (def


Game 13:

1 14:56 1 10 DAL 29 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 4 yards (tackle by Daron Payne) 0.870 0.870
1 14:24 2 6 DAL 33 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short right to Dalton Schultz for 4 yards (tackle by Jamin Da

Game 14

1 14:55 1 10 DAL 14 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short right to Michael Gallup for 9 yards (tackle by Jarren Williams) -0.280 0.550
1 14:25 2 1 DAL 23 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right tackle for 3 yards (tackle by Leonard Williams)

Game 15

1 15:00 1 10 DAL 25 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short right to Amari Cooper for 7 yards (tackle by Darryl Roberts) 0.610 1.010
1 14:42 2 3 DAL 32 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right tackle for 2 yards (tackle by Daron Payne and Montez Swe

Game 16
1 14:55 1 10 DAL 20 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short middle to Michael Gallup for 9 yards (tackle by Isaiah Simmons) 0.280 0.950
1 14:32 2 1 DAL 29 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short right to Michael Gallup for 6 yards (tackle by Byron Murphy) 0.950 1.270
1 14:01 1 10 DAL 35 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 4 yards (tackle by Jalen Thompson and Zach Allen)


Came out throwing to Gallup.. got a quick first down then immediately stopped attacking..


Game 17:
1 9:41 1 10 DAL 25 0 7 Ezekiel Elliott left end for 5 yards (tackle by Andre Chachere)

I'd have to go watch this one .. I don't recall it being an outside run..

But the pattern is clear. The delay handoff up the middle is scripted into our first 3-4 play calls nearly every game as are the short passes to the TE or the WR screen. We only went down the field early in three games and one of those was in a 20 mph wind.

If you want to put some of this on the players then okay.. but if the players are not capable of executing a more sophisticated game plan than hand off up the middle or short passes then we need new players. I'm more inclined to believe we need new coaches.
 

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Say what you want about his gameplay, but Amari Cooper always a class act in the press. Never see him undermine or get bitter.
 

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Cooper can be a class act and a good WR and still not be worth the 20mill contract for this team...they can all be true. If the OC is not willing to use him properly then that 20 mill needs to go somewhere else....and if its Dak (which some say it is) then why is the OC not telling him to use the 20 mill WR when he is suspose to.
 

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If the first few plays of the game are vanilla.. Hand offs up the middle.. play actin bootleg rollout pass to TE and other such then who SHOULD get the blame if not the coaches? Specifically the OC?

Check out this list of first offensive snaps for the Cowboys last season:


Game 1:
1 13:18 1 10 DAL 2 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete deep left to Amari Cooper for 28 yards (tackle by Antoine Winfield)

This got me excited.. Like maybe Moore had seen the light.. Backed up on our own 2 yard line and we come out firing!!

It didn't last

Game 2.
1 14:54 1 10 DAL 22 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 1 yard (tackle by Christian Covington)


Game 3:
1 15:00 1 10 DAL 25 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short middle to Dalton Schultz for 8 yards (tackle by T.J. Edwar

Empty backfield.. throw to Schultz over the middle? What are we attacking here?

Game 4:

1 15:00 1 10 DAL 25 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott left end for 2 yards (tackle by Brian Burns)

Dak lateraled to Zeke as he was being sacked. Was meant to be a dropback pass out of three tight end set with only one receiver in. What are we trying to accomplish here? Went unbalanced right and ignored the inside backer coming up the middle. Either terrible play design or poor execution.


Game 5:
1 15:00 1 10 DAL 25 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short left to CeeDee Lamb for 6 yards (tackle by Xavier McKinney)

Flanker screen...Oh the humanity!

followed by

1 14:27 2 4 DAL 31 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right tackle for 2 yards (tackle by Leonard Williams)

Handoff up the middle. Line loses, Zeke has to cut right and fight to get two.

Game 6:
1 14:55 1 10 DAL 12 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 2 yards (tackle by Lawrence Guy and Davon Godchaux)

A return to normalcy..

Game 7:
1 11:49 1 10 DAL 25 0 7 Ezekiel Elliott left tackle for 8 yards (tackle by Danielle Hunter)

Kick out block by LG, Zeke cuts inside of it. But again.. not attacking at all. But with a backup QB I guess I see it.

Game 8:

1 14:51 1 10 DEN 47 0 0 Dak Prescott pass incomplete short left intended for Amari Cooper 2.460 1.910
1 14:45 2 10 DEN 47 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 4 yards (tackle by Shelby Harris)


This one is infuriating. We get the ball at the Denver 38 after TP turns in a nice return.. We follow that up with an incomplete slant and a delay handoff up the middle. Really?

Game 9:
1 14:53 1 10 DAL 27 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right guard for 3 yards (tackle by Erik Harris and Grady Jarrett)

Delay handoff up the middle. Geez.

Game 10:

1 14:55 1 10 DAL 26 0 0 Dak Prescott pass incomplete deep right intended for Michael Gallup 0.670 0.130
1 14:49 2 10 DAL 26 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short right to CeeDee Lamb for 8 yards (tackle by Charvarius Ward and Juan Thornhill) 0.130 0.500
1 14:06 3 2 DAL 34 0 0 Dak Prescott pass incomplete short middle intend

It's like they knew they were playing a quality opponent so they came out at least trying to attack. Problem was.. there was a 20 mph wind.. so opening up trying to go deep was dumb. Gallup was even open but the wind grabbed the ball and caused it to sail over his head. Did the coaches not walk the field or read the weather report?

Game 11:
1 15:00 1 10 DAL 25 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 4 yards (tackle by Brandon Facyson and K.J. Wright) 0.610 0.600
1 14:31 2 6 DAL 29 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right guard for 2 yards (tackle by Yannick Ngakoue)

Back to monumental creativity.

Game 12:

1 11:44 1 10 DAL 23 0 0 Dak Prescott pass incomplete deep left intended for CeeDee Lamb (defended by Marcus Williams) 0.480 -0.070
1 11:36 2 10 DAL 23 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right tackle for no gain (tackle by Malcolm Jenkins) -0.070 -0.760
1 10:57 3 10 DAL 23 0 0 Dak Prescott pass incomplete short middle intended for Noah Brown (def


Game 13:

1 14:56 1 10 DAL 29 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 4 yards (tackle by Daron Payne) 0.870 0.870
1 14:24 2 6 DAL 33 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short right to Dalton Schultz for 4 yards (tackle by Jamin Da

Game 14

1 14:55 1 10 DAL 14 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short right to Michael Gallup for 9 yards (tackle by Jarren Williams) -0.280 0.550
1 14:25 2 1 DAL 23 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right tackle for 3 yards (tackle by Leonard Williams)

Game 15

1 15:00 1 10 DAL 25 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short right to Amari Cooper for 7 yards (tackle by Darryl Roberts) 0.610 1.010
1 14:42 2 3 DAL 32 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott right tackle for 2 yards (tackle by Daron Payne and Montez Swe

Game 16
1 14:55 1 10 DAL 20 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short middle to Michael Gallup for 9 yards (tackle by Isaiah Simmons) 0.280 0.950
1 14:32 2 1 DAL 29 0 0 Dak Prescott pass complete short right to Michael Gallup for 6 yards (tackle by Byron Murphy) 0.950 1.270
1 14:01 1 10 DAL 35 0 0 Ezekiel Elliott up the middle for 4 yards (tackle by Jalen Thompson and Zach Allen)


Came out throwing to Gallup.. got a quick first down then immediately stopped attacking..


Game 17:
1 9:41 1 10 DAL 25 0 7 Ezekiel Elliott left end for 5 yards (tackle by Andre Chachere)

I'd have to go watch this one .. I don't recall it being an outside run..

But the pattern is clear. The delay handoff up the middle is scripted into our first 3-4 play calls nearly every game as are the short passes to the TE or the WR screen. We only went down the field early in three games and one of those was in a 20 mph wind.

If you want to put some of this on the players then okay.. but if the players are not capable of executing a more sophisticated game plan than hand off up the middle or short passes then we need new players. I'm more inclined to believe we need new coaches.

You do know the qb makes most of the calls at the line of scrimmage based on alignmentby the defense.. But we're talking specifically scheming players open. All the scheme isn't doing anything without execution. We heard Jerry talking about route running and wrs not being where they should be.
 

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One of the real knocks on Moore is the fact that he doesn’t like to lock in and rely on primary playmakers to be the engine of the offense. He likes to use multiple weapons and attack the opposite of whatever the defense decides to scheme against.

In theory, it’s nice. But in actuality you need to find the balance that prioritizes your best playermakers but also doesn’t allow defenses to ruin your gameplan by keying in on them. Moore doesn’t have that yet and that was one of Amari’s biggest issues with him. Unfortunately Coop seems to shut down a bit when he sees something he doesn’t like but he has a point.

Let’s hope he develops that this season. He’s young and growing too.

Heres a nice article about it when it was going well lol

https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott

Excellent, excellent post. Nailed it

A team should NEVER shy from opportunities for it's best players no matter the "look". A dominant player's % success rate is good enough to begin with, give them chances.

THEN a player like Schultz, Washington (Jarwin or a Randall Cobb) will find themselves roaming free in acres of green grass or all alone in the EZ.
 

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He said he was ready not that he was 1 over him lol

Said he was a total stud that would flourish as a true #1 no problem. Which is exactly what I have been telling the doubters that dont believe it.

Lamb already had 3 out of 4 categories #1 on the team, he was the #1 already. That isnt debatable. Stats make that a fact.
 

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Said he was a total stud that would flourish as a true #1 no problem. Which is exactly what I have been telling the doubters that dont believe it.

Lamb already had 3 out of 4 categories #1 on the team, he was the #1 already. That isnt debatable. Stats make that a fact.
Just because he said it doesn't mean it's true lol.
 
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