CFZ Here's Why Those Upset and Anxious of Free Agency are Wrong

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Took me less than a minute and a half to read, maybe 5 to write..

I'm not worried about it. I wrote it long enough to say what I was trying to say.

I had to look it up. Wagner signed with the Rams (probably wants to win a SB). But the deal is 5 years $50 million with 15 million in incentives.

I agree Wagner is a great player. But wouldn't it make sense to keep that future money for Parsons?
Not really... which is why the team didn't get caught up in those sweepstakes. And like I said, I agree with it. There's no way that Wagner is playing well enough 4-5 years from now to be worth that money. I know.

Still I would have thought long and hard about it because he brings so much in character and knowledge. What Parsons would get from him those first couple of years just might make it worth it.

However, when I was saying that I wanted is to sign him, I didn't think he would get that much money. So I didn't blame the team for passing on him.

It still disappointed me though.
 

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Not really... which is why the team didn't get caught up in those sweepstakes. And like I said, I agree with it. There's no way that Wagner is playing well enough 4-5 years from now to be worth that money. I know.

Still I would have thought long and hard about it because he brings so much in character and knowledge. What Parsons would get from him those first couple of years just might make it worth it.

However, when I was saying that I wanted is to sign him, I didn't think he would get that much money. So I didn't blame the team for passing on him.

It still disappointed me though.

For sure, he's a good player.

Not sure if I would like that contract, though. Time will tell if it works out for the Rams. Wager is 32, so I agree he won't be worth that money 4-5 years from now.
 

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The better question is when was the last time the Cowboys had a base of key players to build around by adding a few key free agents?

We haven't been in a position as a team to have already had key players you need to win a championship, like we have now.

I'm not saying we have all the players right now. And I think we'll sign at least 2-3 more free agents before it's all said and done for 2022.

I can't say for certain that they will. But from what I see, they are trying to leverage patience to their advantage, because it gives them an edge to negotiate with players if they wait and behave like they're not overly anxious to sign them.. If they act like they need a player right now, the agent will sense that the players' demand has gone up, and will advise the player to play hardball. And that's what we should avoid.
I dont mean to try to argue or call you out or anything of that nature. I like and respect you and I think you know your stuff.

Maybe I misunderstood, but it seemed as if you were saying they at one time were big into FA and it didn't work out. That never happened.

Building through the draft is of course ideal. Thinking you can get over the hump by doing that exclusively, when that hasn't at all worked seems to contradict what I think you're trying to say.

The core should be built through the draft, then supplemented through FA. They seem to get the first part....the bargain part.....but where you need to overpay to get over that last little hump is where the kid seems to not be happy.

Again, status quo sounds ideal, but also hasn't worked. They think they are unlucky when they actually aren't good enough.
 

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I predict the first thing many will do will come in and argue that I love Jerry Jones, or Stephen, or that I'm just too stupid to understand and wouldn't know how to build a team or know anything about football (my favorite). For that reason, I often just keep opinions like this to myself. This board is like an echo chamber, and I'm not concerned with changing that, but I think it's important to point out for those who are open-minded enough to consider.

The worst thing that you can do in free agency is be too anxious to get any player. A team should have several things in place before they are in a legitimate position to win through free agency anyway, and that is obviously best done through the draft. First, you get your quarterback. Check. Then you get your left tackle. Check. Then you solidify your skill positions. Check, check, check.

Then . . . if you want to compete for a championship in this league, you need a formidable EDGE rusher, a talented corner and a dominate linebacker. Question marks, plural, check, check,

The third phase is special teams, so you're looking for guys every year that can fit in those roles. And I'm not going to check or question mark or draw a line through anything just yet, since I cannot project with any certainty about who will play what on STs. It's just too early. But we do have the basic pieces in place to win enough as a team to get us into the regular season. If we're good enough to get into the playoffs, then it would make sense to stack this team with as many free agents and new talent acquisitions as possible.

When looking ahead at our strategy to building a championship team, we need to have a few rules in place. First, we shouldn't overpay for anyone in free agency. Free agent signings can be risky, because we may not know all the reasons a free agent isn't being resigned by their former team, etc. We may think we do, but we often find out later why they were a free agent in the first place. Dallas has overlooked this many times in the past — to their detriment. But I think they have finally learned from it.

Let's be real here for a minute. Do we really think Jerry and Stephen don't wouldn't spend the money assemble the best roster they could if all it took was money? We know they would. We have said in the past that they just don't know how to win, especially after they break the bank to sign a free agent.

Free agent signings have been some of Dallas' worst moves in the past.

Have they finally learned from it?

How does a team not overpay for a player?

They exercise patience.

The more patient we are, the less anxious we appear, the less urgent about it we act, the less likely we are to get into bidding wars with teams and agents over players.

What's the best way to get off on the right foot when you negotiate for players?

Establish a history.

If you have a history of being anxious and overpaying for your players, then that's the reputation you've built for yourself. If you don't overvalue anyone too much, as a team, then that's your reputation.

So it's important to establish a reputation. You do that by writing your own history.

On the other hand, if you can build a winning team that players want to play for, then free agency can become your friend. Did players take less to play for the Patriots for a chance to win the Super Bowl?

They sure did.

Please point out that I'm comparing the Cowboys to the Patriots, because I'm not saying that. I'm using the Patriots as an example. But it's something to strive for.

Lately, finally, Jerry and Stephen are doing the right things.

They're not letting a little success from last year get them too excited to the point they overspend.They're relaxed about signing free agents. And they're cool with laying back and letting the clock tick.

Because as time goes by, the Cowboys put themselves in a more advantageous position to do what they really want to do: fill the holes we have with as much available talent, at the lowest cost.And finally, they're doing it the right way by being patient enough to evaluate their own talent, patient enough waiting for cuts, and patient enough waiting for the market to come down.

And that's exactly what they should be doing in free agency, regardless of what the fans parrot from the talking heads. If getting the best players at the best price is the goal, the only thing for them to do is be patient about it.The trick here is balancing out their patience so that it works best for the team overall, in the end.

Not getting too anxious to overpay for one player, but being patient enough to make several key signings has proven to be the key to success in the NFL.

That, and keeping enough cap space open to sign your current core players in the future.

We've got our core players.

So right now, the name of the game is patience, evaluation, and timing with new signings.

So far, I'd say they're doing a pretty good job. It's just difficult to tell, since free agency is not yet over. And that's the part many bellyaching fans would have you forget.

(Should say About in the title, not of)

You try to give us a feeling like our FO has learned something. Like they had a plan and that is develop ourselfs. Into a patient, evaluating FO who knows how and when do the right signing.

Well i dont think this is true.

FA also includes signing your own players that would hit the open market otherwise. Nothing of the above you stated is true when you look at our signings in the last 10 years. Even with our trades (Cooper for example).

Every contract we give away to our players was made either under preassure (established by those players) or without longterm planning (Jarwin for example). Not one of them gives me the feeling there is someone in the FO with a longer plan or who knows how to handle contract business.

Prescott, Zeke, Cooper, DFlaw, Captain Ahab aka Look-at-the-tape Jaylon Smith, Jarwin etc ...

Dont want to go even past that. That makes me sick already.

No, my friend. This FO has learned nothing. And whats the more important thing is: It thinks it has NOT to learn anything. It shys away from FA market because it doesnt know how to handle the cap. And it overpays its own players because it doesnt know how to prepare for certain situations in the long run. It has no longterm planning. In fact its only impulsive with its decissions. And its only getting worse.

With JJ we at least had someone who was able to make sh/t out of crap and sell it to players. Stephen is much worse. He has no talent at all. Tries to look intelligent because he is more stupid than his dad. And thats a thing for itself. Being more stupid than Jerry is hard to accomplish.
 
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I predict the first thing many will do will come in and argue that I love Jerry Jones, or Stephen, or that I'm just too stupid to understand and wouldn't know how to build a team or know anything about football (my favorite). For that reason, I often just keep opinions like this to myself. This board is like an echo chamber, and I'm not concerned with changing that, but I think it's important to point out for those who are open-minded enough to consider.

The worst thing that you can do in free agency is be too anxious to get any player. A team should have several things in place before they are in a legitimate position to win through free agency anyway, and that is obviously best done through the draft. First, you get your quarterback. Check. Then you get your left tackle. Check. Then you solidify your skill positions. Check, check, check.

Then . . . if you want to compete for a championship in this league, you need a formidable EDGE rusher, a talented corner and a dominate linebacker. Question marks, plural, check, check,

The third phase is special teams, so you're looking for guys every year that can fit in those roles. And I'm not going to check or question mark or draw a line through anything just yet, since I cannot project with any certainty about who will play what on STs. It's just too early. But we do have the basic pieces in place to win enough as a team to get us into the regular season. If we're good enough to get into the playoffs, then it would make sense to stack this team with as many free agents and new talent acquisitions as possible.

When looking ahead at our strategy to building a championship team, we need to have a few rules in place. First, we shouldn't overpay for anyone in free agency. Free agent signings can be risky, because we may not know all the reasons a free agent isn't being resigned by their former team, etc. We may think we do, but we often find out later why they were a free agent in the first place. Dallas has overlooked this many times in the past — to their detriment. But I think they have finally learned from it.

Let's be real here for a minute. Do we really think Jerry and Stephen don't wouldn't spend the money assemble the best roster they could if all it took was money? We know they would. We have said in the past that they just don't know how to win, especially after they break the bank to sign a free agent.

Free agent signings have been some of Dallas' worst moves in the past.

Have they finally learned from it?

How does a team not overpay for a player?

They exercise patience.

The more patient we are, the less anxious we appear, the less urgent about it we act, the less likely we are to get into bidding wars with teams and agents over players.

What's the best way to get off on the right foot when you negotiate for players?

Establish a history.

If you have a history of being anxious and overpaying for your players, then that's the reputation you've built for yourself. If you don't overvalue anyone too much, as a team, then that's your reputation.

So it's important to establish a reputation. You do that by writing your own history.

On the other hand, if you can build a winning team that players want to play for, then free agency can become your friend. Did players take less to play for the Patriots for a chance to win the Super Bowl?

They sure did.

Please point out that I'm comparing the Cowboys to the Patriots, because I'm not saying that. I'm using the Patriots as an example. But it's something to strive for.

Lately, finally, Jerry and Stephen are doing the right things.

They're not letting a little success from last year get them too excited to the point they overspend.They're relaxed about signing free agents. And they're cool with laying back and letting the clock tick.

Because as time goes by, the Cowboys put themselves in a more advantageous position to do what they really want to do: fill the holes we have with as much available talent, at the lowest cost.And finally, they're doing it the right way by being patient enough to evaluate their own talent, patient enough waiting for cuts, and patient enough waiting for the market to come down.

And that's exactly what they should be doing in free agency, regardless of what the fans parrot from the talking heads. If getting the best players at the best price is the goal, the only thing for them to do is be patient about it.The trick here is balancing out their patience so that it works best for the team overall, in the end.

Not getting too anxious to overpay for one player, but being patient enough to make several key signings has proven to be the key to success in the NFL.

That, and keeping enough cap space open to sign your current core players in the future.

We've got our core players.

So right now, the name of the game is patience, evaluation, and timing with new signings.

So far, I'd say they're doing a pretty good job. It's just difficult to tell, since free agency is not yet over. And that's the part many bellyaching fans would have you forget.

(Should say About in the title, not of)
They have done a pretty good job the last 27 years for the Arlington Jonesboys. But, this is the Dallas Cowboys America's Team. Dallas Cowboys make the playoffs multiple years in a row. Go to NFC Championship Games multiple years in a row. Dallas Cowboy teams Go to Super Bowls and win Super Bowls on a competitive consistent basis.

Your standards are too low to be a Dallas Cowboys fan if you think Jerry Dumbo GM Jones and Steven VP of playing with Personnel Jones are doing a pretty good Job. How many losing seasons have the Steelers, Patriots, had since 1996? How many playoff seasons since 1996? Are they America's Team? Jerry and Stephen have been cheap, inconsistent, mediocre, focus on money without winning a Super Bowl as a priority for 27 years.
 

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I'm not saying I believe they finally have the answer. Just that they're finally being patient given the roster that they have now. The current roster is part of why I'm saying what I'm saying.

We have weak spots, for sure. But they're not so weak we have to kill the team's future to upgrade at any one in particular.

I also like how they're really trying to focus on the defense. We haven't had that in a long time.

I know you weren't, but if we're talking about signing free agents now, at least give us a reply like AsthmaField, and state who for how much.. Otherwise, just wanting to sign a free agent now, any free agent, at any price, just seems short-sighted.

Free agency isn't over yet.

They have shown patience in the past with the roster, that's not new trait they have learned IMO.

The most obvious example is 2018 they were patient with the receivers we had. Ended up trading a 1st for Cooper.
They showed patience with the corners last year and it paid off.
The years of ignoring the safety position I can't detemine if it was the FO overrating the Heaths of the world or the coaches telling them they were good enough there.

Now, I can't solely blame the FO there as who knows how much the coaches actions or inactions led to them going down those paths. As for example year one with Quinn here they went out and signed Hooker, Kazee and Kearse the first year he was here.

The approach to the defense is nice and if I had to guess it's due to their reliance on the DC. My assumption is that Rod told them he could do more with try hard guys that are found later in the drafts/UDFA and Quinn probably has banged harder on the table to draft certain players.

I don't get the purpose of the bolded sentence. You know I wasn't talking about signing free agents now, so why type out a hypothetical and end it with that assumption I would be short sighted and not give examples?
 

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I hear you. Overall, my point about patience has to do with right now, so I probably misspoke with the make or break part. But I'm really talking about how the Cowboys tend to be anxious sometimes and get in over their heads with signing players for too much. And that right now, Cowboys are using patience to their advantage.

One, there are plenty of options for a #3 WR for instance. But it would be wise to see what we have first. Plus, there's an advantage to waiting for cuts.

And second, waiting to approach those players, and how we approach them, could impact negotiations favorably for us.

Same is true for other positions we want to upgrade.

Fair enough .....
 

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They have shown patience in the past with the roster, that's not new trait they have learned IMO.

The most obvious example is 2018 they were patient with the receivers we had. Ended up trading a 1st for Cooper.
They showed patience with the corners last year and it paid off.
The years of ignoring the safety position I can't detemine if it was the FO overrating the Heaths of the world or the coaches telling them they were good enough there.

Now, I can't solely blame the FO there as who knows how much the coaches actions or inactions led to them going down those paths. As for example year one with Quinn here they went out and signed Hooker, Kazee and Kearse the first year he was here.

The approach to the defense is nice and if I had to guess it's due to their reliance on the DC. My assumption is that Rod told them he could do more with try hard guys that are found later in the drafts/UDFA and Quinn probably has banged harder on the table to draft certain players.

I don't get the purpose of the bolded sentence. You know I wasn't talking about signing free agents now, so why type out a hypothetical and end it with that assumption I would be short sighted and not give examples?

Because I wasn't talking about you, specifically. I just meant people in general like to gripe, but they gripe in a general sense and have no specific solutions to offer.

I was referencing Asthma because he gave me a specific player he was disappointed about us not signing . . . and then later said he would have still liked the player, just not for as much as he got in Los Angeles. That seems more reasonable to me than reactionary.

I try to keep emotions out of it.


They have done a pretty good job the last 27 years for the Arlington Jonesboys. But, this is the Dallas Cowboys America's Team. Dallas Cowboys make the playoffs multiple years in a row. Go to NFC Championship Games multiple years in a row. Dallas Cowboy teams Go to Super Bowls and win Super Bowls on a competitive consistent basis.

Your standards are too low to be a Dallas Cowboys fan if you think Jerry Dumbo GM Jones and Steven VP of playing with Personnel Jones are doing a pretty good Job. How many losing seasons have the Steelers, Patriots, had since 1996? How many playoff seasons since 1996? Are they America's Team? Jerry and Stephen have been cheap, inconsistent, mediocre, focus on money without winning a Super Bowl as a priority for 27 years.

I think they've done a decent job with the draft and filling holes left by departed players. I like their strategy of patience. But as I said in the OP, I can't say whether they've done great or not yet, because free agency isn't over. I simply like the fact that we got a player like Barr at the price we got him. I believe Broaddus was probably accurate when he said Barr wanted 11 million and we signed him for $3 million deal. The Jerry I've known in the past would have forked over $11 million because Barr has made 4 pro bowls. So I think the level of patience they're exercising right now will bode well for them with any signings they may make in the near future.
 
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I predict the first thing many will do will come in and argue that I love Jerry Jones, or Stephen, or that I'm just too stupid to understand and wouldn't know how to build a team or know anything about football (my favorite). For that reason, I often just keep opinions like this to myself. This board is like an echo chamber, and I'm not concerned with changing that, but I think it's important to point out for those who are open-minded enough to consider.

The worst thing that you can do in free agency is be too anxious to get any player. A team should have several things in place before they are in a legitimate position to win through free agency anyway, and that is obviously best done through the draft. First, you get your quarterback. Check. Then you get your left tackle. Check. Then you solidify your skill positions. Check, check, check.

Then . . . if you want to compete for a championship in this league, you need a formidable EDGE rusher, a talented corner and a dominate linebacker. Question marks, plural, check, check,

The third phase is special teams, so you're looking for guys every year that can fit in those roles. And I'm not going to check or question mark or draw a line through anything just yet, since I cannot project with any certainty about who will play what on STs. It's just too early. But we do have the basic pieces in place to win enough as a team to get us into the regular season. If we're good enough to get into the playoffs, then it would make sense to stack this team with as many free agents and new talent acquisitions as possible.

When looking ahead at our strategy to building a championship team, we need to have a few rules in place. First, we shouldn't overpay for anyone in free agency. Free agent signings can be risky, because we may not know all the reasons a free agent isn't being resigned by their former team, etc. We may think we do, but we often find out later why they were a free agent in the first place. Dallas has overlooked this many times in the past — to their detriment. But I think they have finally learned from it.

Let's be real here for a minute. Do we really think Jerry and Stephen don't wouldn't spend the money assemble the best roster they could if all it took was money? We know they would. We have said in the past that they just don't know how to win, especially after they break the bank to sign a free agent.

Free agent signings have been some of Dallas' worst moves in the past.

Have they finally learned from it?

How does a team not overpay for a player?

They exercise patience.

The more patient we are, the less anxious we appear, the less urgent about it we act, the less likely we are to get into bidding wars with teams and agents over players.

What's the best way to get off on the right foot when you negotiate for players?

Establish a history.

If you have a history of being anxious and overpaying for your players, then that's the reputation you've built for yourself. If you don't overvalue anyone too much, as a team, then that's your reputation.

So it's important to establish a reputation. You do that by writing your own history.

On the other hand, if you can build a winning team that players want to play for, then free agency can become your friend. Did players take less to play for the Patriots for a chance to win the Super Bowl?

They sure did.

Please point out that I'm comparing the Cowboys to the Patriots, because I'm not saying that. I'm using the Patriots as an example. But it's something to strive for.

Lately, finally, Jerry and Stephen are doing the right things.

They're not letting a little success from last year get them too excited to the point they overspend.They're relaxed about signing free agents. And they're cool with laying back and letting the clock tick.

Because as time goes by, the Cowboys put themselves in a more advantageous position to do what they really want to do: fill the holes we have with as much available talent, at the lowest cost.And finally, they're doing it the right way by being patient enough to evaluate their own talent, patient enough waiting for cuts, and patient enough waiting for the market to come down.

And that's exactly what they should be doing in free agency, regardless of what the fans parrot from the talking heads. If getting the best players at the best price is the goal, the only thing for them to do is be patient about it.The trick here is balancing out their patience so that it works best for the team overall, in the end.

Not getting too anxious to overpay for one player, but being patient enough to make several key signings has proven to be the key to success in the NFL.

That, and keeping enough cap space open to sign your current core players in the future.

We've got our core players.

So right now, the name of the game is patience, evaluation, and timing with new signings.

So far, I'd say they're doing a pretty good job. It's just difficult to tell, since free agency is not yet over. And that's the part many bellyaching fans would have you forget.

(Should say About in the title, not of)

Nevah, in the history of the CZ, has a post been so true.
The analysis of how to get to the big square dance.
The horse sense!
Then you ruin it by writing "We've got our core players."
Who besides Micah, Digs and Martin?
And don't include a sophomore CeeDee "Drops" Lamb or Dak "Run With 14 Seconds Remaining" Prescott.
 

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I predict the first thing many will do will come in and argue that I love Jerry Jones, or Stephen, or that I'm just too stupid to understand and wouldn't know how to build a team or know anything about football (my favorite). For that reason, I often just keep opinions like this to myself. This board is like an echo chamber, and I'm not concerned with changing that, but I think it's important to point out for those who are open-minded enough to consider.

The worst thing that you can do in free agency is be too anxious to get any player. A team should have several things in place before they are in a legitimate position to win through free agency anyway, and that is obviously best done through the draft. First, you get your quarterback. Check. Then you get your left tackle. Check. Then you solidify your skill positions. Check, check, check.

Then . . . if you want to compete for a championship in this league, you need a formidable EDGE rusher, a talented corner and a dominate linebacker. Question marks, plural, check, check,

The third phase is special teams, so you're looking for guys every year that can fit in those roles. And I'm not going to check or question mark or draw a line through anything just yet, since I cannot project with any certainty about who will play what on STs. It's just too early. But we do have the basic pieces in place to win enough as a team to get us into the regular season. If we're good enough to get into the playoffs, then it would make sense to stack this team with as many free agents and new talent acquisitions as possible.

When looking ahead at our strategy to building a championship team, we need to have a few rules in place. First, we shouldn't overpay for anyone in free agency. Free agent signings can be risky, because we may not know all the reasons a free agent isn't being resigned by their former team, etc. We may think we do, but we often find out later why they were a free agent in the first place. Dallas has overlooked this many times in the past — to their detriment. But I think they have finally learned from it.

Let's be real here for a minute. Do we really think Jerry and Stephen don't wouldn't spend the money assemble the best roster they could if all it took was money? We know they would. We have said in the past that they just don't know how to win, especially after they break the bank to sign a free agent.

Free agent signings have been some of Dallas' worst moves in the past.

Have they finally learned from it?

How does a team not overpay for a player?

They exercise patience.

The more patient we are, the less anxious we appear, the less urgent about it we act, the less likely we are to get into bidding wars with teams and agents over players.

What's the best way to get off on the right foot when you negotiate for players?

Establish a history.

If you have a history of being anxious and overpaying for your players, then that's the reputation you've built for yourself. If you don't overvalue anyone too much, as a team, then that's your reputation.

So it's important to establish a reputation. You do that by writing your own history.

On the other hand, if you can build a winning team that players want to play for, then free agency can become your friend. Did players take less to play for the Patriots for a chance to win the Super Bowl?

They sure did.

Please point out that I'm comparing the Cowboys to the Patriots, because I'm not saying that. I'm using the Patriots as an example. But it's something to strive for.

Lately, finally, Jerry and Stephen are doing the right things.

They're not letting a little success from last year get them too excited to the point they overspend.They're relaxed about signing free agents. And they're cool with laying back and letting the clock tick.

Because as time goes by, the Cowboys put themselves in a more advantageous position to do what they really want to do: fill the holes we have with as much available talent, at the lowest cost.And finally, they're doing it the right way by being patient enough to evaluate their own talent, patient enough waiting for cuts, and patient enough waiting for the market to come down.

And that's exactly what they should be doing in free agency, regardless of what the fans parrot from the talking heads. If getting the best players at the best price is the goal, the only thing for them to do is be patient about it.The trick here is balancing out their patience so that it works best for the team overall, in the end.

Not getting too anxious to overpay for one player, but being patient enough to make several key signings has proven to be the key to success in the NFL.

That, and keeping enough cap space open to sign your current core players in the future.

We've got our core players.

So right now, the name of the game is patience, evaluation, and timing with new signings.

So far, I'd say they're doing a pretty good job. It's just difficult to tell, since free agency is not yet over. And that's the part many bellyaching fans would have you forget.

(Should say About in the title, not of)
You said it a lot more eloquently than I did. Thank you
 

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I predict the first thing many will do will come in and argue that I love Jerry Jones, or Stephen, or that I'm just too stupid to understand and wouldn't know how to build a team or know anything about football (my favorite). For that reason, I often just keep opinions like this to myself. This board is like an echo chamber, and I'm not concerned with changing that, but I think it's important to point out for those who are open-minded enough to consider.

The worst thing that you can do in free agency is be too anxious to get any player. A team should have several things in place before they are in a legitimate position to win through free agency anyway, and that is obviously best done through the draft. First, you get your quarterback. Check. Then you get your left tackle. Check. Then you solidify your skill positions. Check, check, check.

Then . . . if you want to compete for a championship in this league, you need a formidable EDGE rusher, a talented corner and a dominate linebacker. Question marks, plural, check, check,

The third phase is special teams, so you're looking for guys every year that can fit in those roles. And I'm not going to check or question mark or draw a line through anything just yet, since I cannot project with any certainty about who will play what on STs. It's just too early. But we do have the basic pieces in place to win enough as a team to get us into the regular season. If we're good enough to get into the playoffs, then it would make sense to stack this team with as many free agents and new talent acquisitions as possible.

When looking ahead at our strategy to building a championship team, we need to have a few rules in place. First, we shouldn't overpay for anyone in free agency. Free agent signings can be risky, because we may not know all the reasons a free agent isn't being resigned by their former team, etc. We may think we do, but we often find out later why they were a free agent in the first place. Dallas has overlooked this many times in the past — to their detriment. But I think they have finally learned from it.

Let's be real here for a minute. Do we really think Jerry and Stephen don't wouldn't spend the money assemble the best roster they could if all it took was money? We know they would. We have said in the past that they just don't know how to win, especially after they break the bank to sign a free agent.

Free agent signings have been some of Dallas' worst moves in the past.

Have they finally learned from it?

How does a team not overpay for a player?

They exercise patience.

The more patient we are, the less anxious we appear, the less urgent about it we act, the less likely we are to get into bidding wars with teams and agents over players.

What's the best way to get off on the right foot when you negotiate for players?

Establish a history.

If you have a history of being anxious and overpaying for your players, then that's the reputation you've built for yourself. If you don't overvalue anyone too much, as a team, then that's your reputation.

So it's important to establish a reputation. You do that by writing your own history.

On the other hand, if you can build a winning team that players want to play for, then free agency can become your friend. Did players take less to play for the Patriots for a chance to win the Super Bowl?

They sure did.

Please point out that I'm comparing the Cowboys to the Patriots, because I'm not saying that. I'm using the Patriots as an example. But it's something to strive for.

Lately, finally, Jerry and Stephen are doing the right things.

They're not letting a little success from last year get them too excited to the point they overspend.They're relaxed about signing free agents. And they're cool with laying back and letting the clock tick.

Because as time goes by, the Cowboys put themselves in a more advantageous position to do what they really want to do: fill the holes we have with as much available talent, at the lowest cost.And finally, they're doing it the right way by being patient enough to evaluate their own talent, patient enough waiting for cuts, and patient enough waiting for the market to come down.

And that's exactly what they should be doing in free agency, regardless of what the fans parrot from the talking heads. If getting the best players at the best price is the goal, the only thing for them to do is be patient about it.The trick here is balancing out their patience so that it works best for the team overall, in the end.

Not getting too anxious to overpay for one player, but being patient enough to make several key signings has proven to be the key to success in the NFL.

That, and keeping enough cap space open to sign your current core players in the future.

We've got our core players.

So right now, the name of the game is patience, evaluation, and timing with new signings.

So far, I'd say they're doing a pretty good job. It's just difficult to tell, since free agency is not yet over. And that's the part many bellyaching fans would have you forget.

(Should say About in the title, not of)

It doesn't make them wrong....It is their opinions, just like yours.. We all have them.

And my opinion is they have no clue how to operate the FA market, because you need talent and experience in evaluation. Even with their scouts, they still have the final say. Plus if you go dumpster diving and looking under rocks, what do you think you are gonna find? Patience? Three decades ain't enough? Again, they have no clue. As BobHaze put it here recently, they are not proactive, but reactive. Big difference.
 

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The measuring stick of right and wrong, when it comes to personnel moves (or lack thereof), will be settled on the field. We shall see.
This and nothing else. I agree that noone here is better qualified for an FO job than the people in the FO, even if they are the worst. But still, in the end all mistakes that have been made by them become transparent when the season starts.

And by that measure our FO has done a lot of mistakes. And yes, that is our "right" as fans to complain about and no, we don't have to have a better plan. If I had one, the Cowboys would pay me for it. But they pay someone for it, and he/she is accountable.

End of story.
 
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I predict the first thing many will do will come in and argue that I love Jerry Jones, or Stephen, or that I'm just too stupid to understand and wouldn't know how to build a team or know anything about football (my favorite). For that reason, I often just keep opinions like this to myself. This board is like an echo chamber, and I'm not concerned with changing that, but I think it's important to point out for those who are open-minded enough to consider.

The worst thing that you can do in free agency is be too anxious to get any player. A team should have several things in place before they are in a legitimate position to win through free agency anyway, and that is obviously best done through the draft. First, you get your quarterback. Check. Then you get your left tackle. Check. Then you solidify your skill positions. Check, check, check.

Then . . . if you want to compete for a championship in this league, you need a formidable EDGE rusher, a talented corner and a dominate linebacker. Question marks, plural, check, check,

The third phase is special teams, so you're looking for guys every year that can fit in those roles. And I'm not going to check or question mark or draw a line through anything just yet, since I cannot project with any certainty about who will play what on STs. It's just too early. But we do have the basic pieces in place to win enough as a team to get us into the regular season. If we're good enough to get into the playoffs, then it would make sense to stack this team with as many free agents and new talent acquisitions as possible.

When looking ahead at our strategy to building a championship team, we need to have a few rules in place. First, we shouldn't overpay for anyone in free agency. Free agent signings can be risky, because we may not know all the reasons a free agent isn't being resigned by their former team, etc. We may think we do, but we often find out later why they were a free agent in the first place. Dallas has overlooked this many times in the past — to their detriment. But I think they have finally learned from it.

Let's be real here for a minute. Do we really think Jerry and Stephen don't wouldn't spend the money assemble the best roster they could if all it took was money? We know they would. We have said in the past that they just don't know how to win, especially after they break the bank to sign a free agent.

Free agent signings have been some of Dallas' worst moves in the past.

Have they finally learned from it?

How does a team not overpay for a player?

They exercise patience.

The more patient we are, the less anxious we appear, the less urgent about it we act, the less likely we are to get into bidding wars with teams and agents over players.

What's the best way to get off on the right foot when you negotiate for players?

Establish a history.

If you have a history of being anxious and overpaying for your players, then that's the reputation you've built for yourself. If you don't overvalue anyone too much, as a team, then that's your reputation.

So it's important to establish a reputation. You do that by writing your own history.

On the other hand, if you can build a winning team that players want to play for, then free agency can become your friend. Did players take less to play for the Patriots for a chance to win the Super Bowl?

They sure did.

Please point out that I'm comparing the Cowboys to the Patriots, because I'm not saying that. I'm using the Patriots as an example. But it's something to strive for.

Lately, finally, Jerry and Stephen are doing the right things.

They're not letting a little success from last year get them too excited to the point they overspend.They're relaxed about signing free agents. And they're cool with laying back and letting the clock tick.

Because as time goes by, the Cowboys put themselves in a more advantageous position to do what they really want to do: fill the holes we have with as much available talent, at the lowest cost.And finally, they're doing it the right way by being patient enough to evaluate their own talent, patient enough waiting for cuts, and patient enough waiting for the market to come down.

And that's exactly what they should be doing in free agency, regardless of what the fans parrot from the talking heads. If getting the best players at the best price is the goal, the only thing for them to do is be patient about it.The trick here is balancing out their patience so that it works best for the team overall, in the end.

Not getting too anxious to overpay for one player, but being patient enough to make several key signings has proven to be the key to success in the NFL.

That, and keeping enough cap space open to sign your current core players in the future.

We've got our core players.

So right now, the name of the game is patience, evaluation, and timing with new signings.

So far, I'd say they're doing a pretty good job. It's just difficult to tell, since free agency is not yet over. And that's the part many bellyaching fans would have you forget.

(Should say About in the title, not of)

They have three playoff wins in 25 years. I am not sure why one continues to give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to roster building.

Just out of curiousity, when will this franchise be ready to use FA?
 

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It boggles my mind that after 27+ years, there are still people who defend how Jerry and company run things.

Must be some weird form of stockholm syndrome.


Bingo! I have been trying to figure that one myself, but that’s it.
 

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I simply like the fact that we got a player like Barr at the price we got him. I believe Broaddus was probably accurate when he said Barr wanted 11 million and we signed him for $3 million deal. The Jerry I've known in the past
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would have forked over $11 million because Barr has made 4 pro bowls. So I think the level of patience they're exercising right now will bode well for them with any signings they may make in the near future.

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They have three playoff wins in 25 years. I am not sure why one continues to give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to roster building.

Just out of curiousity, when will this franchise be ready to use FA?
I get excited about the roster when I start seeing names like Bell, Wright, Vasher, players that didnt cost a lot, and Im not penciling them in as future HOFs, all Im saying is I see
some young comp with upside competing, its actually kind of refreshing.
This list is much longer, but these three are getting some early looks and for good reason.
 

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The worst thing that you can do in free agency is be too anxious to get any player. A team should have several things in place before they are in a legitimate position to win through free agency anyway, and that is obviously best done through the draft. First, you get your quarterback. Check. Then you get your left tackle. Check. Then you solidify your skill positions. Check, check, check.

I'm going to respond to this a little at a time.

That check list, does that apply to the dolphins too?
 

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Make or break is what Jerry has done in the past with trades for players like Galloway, which is the first that comes to mind. That was a long time ago, but I wouldn't say never.

There have been several other signings since then, like Greg Hardy, who undoubtedly had talent. But the Cowboys would later regret signing him due to his locker room antics.

Jerry has had some successful FA singings if we're talking Deion, during the cap era. Haley was not during the cap era, so people often mistake that as a success for Jerry when in reality the cap wasn't an issue, so it was a no-brainer.

Also, remember Ryan Leaf? Eddie George, Brandon Carr, etc.

I like that they're exercising patience.
Lol. Patience? It’s been 27 years.
 
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