WR Dennis Houston working with first team

Typhus · Aug 5, 2022

Batman1980 said:
Plus I'm pretty sure he and Jerrah no longer liked Coop so that's why Coop will be catching passes from Jacoby Brissett this season. Let's see how that works out for him.

Like getting shipped off to the WR Siberia, lol. but in all seriousness if Coops career finally takes off, both Raiders and Cowboys get left with egg on face.
I give Coop his credit, we had zero passing game before he stepped in, as soon as he entered the fold, this offense improved significantly.
Thats all ancient history now, we need to deprogram from those days of having a true route runner, that took pride in arriving on time, need the ball on time and dont be hanging me out like chop liver.
That was the real issue, and we all know it,, Dak and Jerry didnt like it.

Ranching · Aug 5, 2022

mattjames2010 said:
Because I want to be and I don't need to justify why I'm commenting on a message board. You can, however, ignore - that's an option, and one you are incapable of doing.

I'm not here to fanboy about your favorite player. Seethe and then cope.

I don't ignore ignorance, I laugh at it....thanks for the laughs...keep.it coming.

mattjames2010 · Aug 5, 2022

RustyBourneHorse said:
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That's not what that means.

Giving context isn't "moving a goal post" - know what you're typing before typing it so you don't come off as a fool. Beasley was already an established short yardage receiver before Dak got here - he just got more targets once Dak took over. Shocking that a rookie WR relied on short yardage passes more than a veteran.

Dak didn't make Beasley, Beasley was just doing what he was doing with Romo, to the rotating QBs in 2015, and then with Dak, and then what he did in Buffalo.

RustyBourneHorse · Aug 5, 2022

mattjames2010 said:
That's not what that means.

Giving context isn't "moving a goal post" - know what you're typing before typing it so you don't come off as a fool. Beasley was already an established short yardage receiver before Dak got here - he just got more targets once Dak took over. Shocking that a rookie WR relied on short yardage passes more than a veteran.

Dak didn't make Beasley, Beasley was just doing what he was doing with Romo, to the rotating QBs in 2015, and then with Dak, and then what he did in Buffalo.

Except, if he's targeted more and he's being productive, aren't those good plays by Dak? Isn't Dak, therefore, helping Beasley to improve? I like Romo as well as Dak. Having a player like a Beasley where you throw to and can reliably move the ball is a good thing. And, when your WR gets targeted more, his value increases. Simple logic that

mattjames2010 · Aug 5, 2022

Ranching said:
I don't ignore ignorance, I laugh at it....thanks for the laughs...keep.it coming.

Nothing I posted there is "ignorance" - It's funny how defensive some of you on here get when context is given.

This forum isn't a bubble for you, I have no obligation to speak only highly of the players you like. Cry.

Cowboys22 · Aug 5, 2022

Dak is on record praising Houston saying he is always where he is supposed to be. If he just doesn't drop the ball, what else do you want from a WR? Who's to say Houston doesn't become a star WR? Really all it takes to gain the trust of your QB, get to your assigned spots, and catch the balls thrown your way. It's way early but seems he is heading in the right direction. Sure beats just being a warm body going through the motions.

Ranching · Aug 5, 2022

mattjames2010 said:
Nothing I posted there is "ignorance" - It's funny how defensive some of you on here get when context is given.

This forum isn't a bubble for you, I have no obligation to speak only highly of the players you like. Cry.

No need to cry...Cowboy up!

RustyBourneHorse · Aug 5, 2022

Cowboys22 said:
Dak is on record praising Houston saying he is always where he is supposed to be. If he just doesn't drop the ball, what else do you want from a WR? Who's to say Houston doesn't become a star WR? Really all it takes to gain the trust of your QB, get to your assigned spots, and catch the balls thrown your way. It's way early but seems he is heading in the right direction. Sure beats just being a warm body going through the motions.

Exactly, and, if he catches the ball well and is always where he's supposed to be, then he has a very good chance of becoming a starter and a productive player. If that happens, his value would increase substantially.

Doomsday101 · Aug 5, 2022

Cowboys22 said:
Dak is on record praising Houston saying he is always where he is supposed to be. If he just doesn't drop the ball, what else do you want from a WR? Who's to say Houston doesn't become a star WR? Really all it takes to gain the trust of your QB, get to your assigned spots, and catch the balls thrown your way. It's way early but seems he is heading in the right direction. Sure beats just being a warm body going through the motions.

True, his job is to know the plays, to run the rout and make the catch. Right now he is doing just that. As he and Dak continue to work and he is where he is supposed to be a trust starts to build. I'm glad he is showing this at this stage. No doubt he has to do it when it counts.

Hardline · Aug 5, 2022

Whirlwin said:
I can’t wait for the season. Prescott without a superstar at wide receiver. this is where he gets to really prove himself , make it or break it , No excuses. Can you put the team on your shoulders. I think we’ll have a winning season. Then it’ll be up to the defense to see how Far we can go from there.

We've already seen Dak without a superstar WR and it ain't pretty.

mattjames2010 · Aug 5, 2022

RustyBourneHorse said:
Except, if he's targeted more and he's being productive, aren't those good plays by Dak? Isn't Dak, therefore, helping Beasley to improve? I like Romo as well as Dak. Having a player like a Beasley where you throw to and can reliably move the ball is a good thing. And, when your WR gets targeted more, his value increases. Simple logic that

The average production of Beasley didn't go up with Dak. If he had similar amount of targets and catches in 2015, with a bunch of backup QBs, he would have had similar stats - actually, his TD average dropped with Dak. He had 5 TDs on fewer catches in 2015 with the same total of TDs in 2016 when he had 20 more catches. What is complicated here? It's like suggesting a player that gets force fed the ball is more valuable than a WR who is more productive with less catches and targets. Logic, yeah, apparently you fail at it.

I guess because people can't read between lines or pick up on implications: the implication here, from the original comment, is that Dak isn't a QB that is going to help develop an UDFA into a productive WR. One of the main reasons we gave up a first round draft pick for a WR in 2018 is because Dak couldn't do much with the WRs we had.

Runwildboys · Aug 5, 2022

Cowboys22 said:
Dak is on record praising Houston saying he is always where he is supposed to be. If he just doesn't drop the ball, what else do you want from a WR? Who's to say Houston doesn't become a star WR? Really all it takes to gain the trust of your QB, get to your assigned spots, and catch the balls thrown your way. It's way early but seems he is heading in the right direction. Sure beats just being a warm body going through the motions.

It will also help if he has the awareness to run to where he can help Dak, if he gets in trouble.

RustyBourneHorse · Aug 5, 2022

mattjames2010 said:
The average production of Beasley didn't go up with Dak. If he had similar amount of targets and catches in 2015, with a bunch of backup QBs, he would have had similar stats - actually, his TD average dropped with Dak. He had 5 TDs on fewer catches in 2015 with the same total of TDs in 2016 when he had 20 more catches. What is complicated here? It's like suggesting a player that gets force fed the ball is more valuable than a WR who is more productive with less catches and targets. Logic, yeah, apparently you fail at it.

I guess because people can't read between lines or pick up on implications: the implication here, from the original comment, is that Dak isn't a QB that is going to help develop an UDFA into a productive WR. One of the main reasons we gave up a first round draft pick for a WR in 2018 is because Dak couldn't do much with the WRs we had.

So, let's add some more context with 2015 vs 2016. He had 75 receptions in 2016 vs 52 the year before, and for a bit more context, 37 in 2014 interestingly. Yes, he had the same TDs, but, could it not be that he was getting into the redzone often? Remember, that's the same year, 2016 where Zeke gave a grand entrance into the league. If he's setting up TDs, then that's just as valuable. So, my point remains. Oh, and let's not forget that he had 833 yards, which is the second most in his career.

tunahelper · Aug 5, 2022

jwooten15 said:
an undrafted FA starting... with Dak at QB?

Goodness... we are doomed.

It hopefully won't be as bad as 2018, or will it?

phildadon86 · Aug 5, 2022

mattjames2010 said:
The average production of Beasley didn't go up with Dak. If he had similar amount of targets and catches in 2015, with a bunch of backup QBs, he would have had similar stats - actually, his TD average dropped with Dak. He had 5 TDs on fewer catches in 2015 with the same total of TDs in 2016 when he had 20 more catches. What is complicated here? It's like suggesting a player that gets force fed the ball is more valuable than a WR who is more productive with less catches and targets. Logic, yeah, apparently you fail at it.

I guess because people can't read between lines or pick up on implications: the implication here, from the original comment, is that Dak isn't a QB that is going to help develop an UDFA into a productive WR. One of the main reasons we gave up a first round draft pick for a WR in 2018 is because Dak couldn't do much with the WRs we had.

I see a lot of IF's

Typhus · Aug 5, 2022

dogberry said:
Is Houston one of three starting wrs?

The story has him starting and behind Lamb.

We got some crazy talent deep
CD
Brown
Houston
Tolbert
Vasher
Turp
Fehoko

Will return
Gallup
Washington

I know i get a bit sarcastic at times, but this honestly isn't a horrible situation, we are just talking WRs here, not receivers/recieving options.
This is a very unique group of WRs 2022, very different meaning diversified bios and skill sets.
Pollard can be included in the conversation.
Guess we should add the TE receiving options as well.
This is a young camp, that is understood, but is also an early camp with a nice mix of vets and youth actually getting some valuable reps and don't be surprised if Noah Brown makes a bold statement before we close camp.
Brown might be bookending CD, just saying this is a half full more than half empty glass, but just my take.

What say you Cowboy Nation.... those cuts look a little tougher when you actually look at them vs we suck at all skill positions offensively.

phildadon86 · Aug 5, 2022

RustyBourneHorse said:
So, let's add some more context with 2015 vs 2016. He had 75 receptions in 2016 vs 52 the year before, and for a bit more context, 37 in 2014 interestingly. Yes, he had the same TDs, but, could it not be that he was getting into the redzone often? Remember, that's the same year, 2016 where Zeke gave a grand entrance into the league. If he's setting up TDs, then that's just as valuable. So, my point remains. Oh, and let's not forget that he had 833 yards, which is the second most in his career.

But. IF!

Kinda like IF Byron Jones doesnt lose Jared Cook Dak and the cowboys go the NFC championship game for the first time in 27 years.

But I always get told here IF doesnt matter because it didnt happen.

Batman1980 · Aug 5, 2022

dogberry said:
Is Houston one of three starting wrs?

The story has him starting and behind Lamb.

Houston, Tolbert and Lamb are the starters right now going by the article. It'd be up to the other guys to play into that #3 spot and see how long they can hold it after Gallup and Washington come back.

Typhus · Aug 5, 2022

Batman1980 said:
Houston, Tolbert and Lamb are the starters right now going by the article. It'd be up to the other guys to play into that #3 spot and see how long they can hold it after Gallup and Washington come back.

I want to see more footage from Houston, please twitter feed info peeps post more... I know Im selfish greedy that way!

RustyBourneHorse · Aug 5, 2022

phildadon86 said:
But. IF!

Kinda like IF Byron Jones doesnt lose Jared Cook Dak and the cowboys go the NFC championship game for the first time in 27 years.

But I always get told here IF doesnt matter because it didnt happen.

Or IF the refs had called the blatant hold lol

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