News: PFT: Jerry Jones unsurprised owner misconduct included in argument on behalf of Deshaun Watson

Diehardblues · Aug 8, 2022

terra said:
found no evidence does not mean there was not once plenty of evidence. and of course just maybe corruption elsewhere was involved. Since that time, lots of speculation about such has occurred.
Bottom line Kraft was involved in something that should have seen a fine and suspension. and the NFL's record of looking the other way for certain people is very clear. So all in all your claim is weak.

Last time I checked only the players fall into the collective bargaining agreement with the NFLPA that governs over the Personal Conduct Policy.

aikemirv · Aug 8, 2022

sacase said:
What Kraft did was far worse. It's actually sexual assault because the women at that massage parlor were trafficked. They didn't have much choice.

Did he know they were trafficked or did he just think he was paying for a hooker? There is a big difference there!

CouchCoach · Aug 8, 2022

There is a major difference in Kraft going to a massage parlor where happy endings are on the menu and Watson getting massages from professionals under the guise of a therapeutic massage.

Ranching · Aug 8, 2022

Kraft couldn't get it up, no harm...no foul.

john van brocklin · Aug 8, 2022

Reality said:

It's a valid point.
Seems like the owners are not held to the same standards as the players.
I am assuming the owners covered by the same code of conduct ?

Beaker42 · Aug 8, 2022

Cowboy4ever said:
If I remember correctly, Kraft wasn’t sued by the massage Place for sexual misconduct. He got caught via a sting or police raid or something. He was never accused of sexual assault. Or maybe I don’t remember it correctly. But I don’t think what Kraft did is on the same level as what Watson did.

Allegedly did.

Big_D · Aug 8, 2022

Flamma said:
What he did is seen as soliciting a prostitute. Which is a misdemeanor.

And no crime at all in some places!

CowboyFrog · Aug 8, 2022

So just suspend the owners and fine them then look back and say "Ok now what"...because it would change the owners lifes very little to none.

Big_D · Aug 8, 2022

TheMarathonContinues said:
Either way…..what Watson is accused of is far more egregious……Watson and Zeke should not have had the same suspension…..just a fact.

how did he only get 6 games? The judge completely dropped the ball considering the amount of women that came forward.

CowboyFrog · Aug 8, 2022

Big_D said:
how did he only get 6 games? The judge completely dropped the ball considering the amount of women that came forward.

Most think its the best of both worlds for Roger the emperor....gets the player back sooner, he gets to act like he is upset about it and probably gets to say later there is nothing he do and dont blame the NFL because "They would've thrown the book at him"....

Big_D · Aug 8, 2022

CowboyFrog said:
Most think its the best of both worlds for Roger the emperor....gets the player back sooner, he gets to act like he is upset about it and probably gets to say later there is nothing he do and dont blame the NFL because "They would've thrown the book at him"....

yup.. the league can pretend they care without actually giving a crap!

TheMarathonContinues · Aug 8, 2022

Big_D said:
how did he only get 6 games? The judge completely dropped the ball considering the amount of women that came forward.

I’m so confused on how he only got 6. How do you consider gambling to be worse than what Watson did?

Diehardblues · Aug 8, 2022

CouchCoach said:
There is a major difference in Kraft going to a massage parlor where happy endings are on the menu and Watson getting massages from professionals under the guise of a therapeutic massage.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Watson getting a massage. But something went awfully wrong for 24 womens accusations of abusive behavior.

1 or 2 maybe but 24. Became so addicting for him that the team begun setting him up in hotels and had the women sign a release form. Watson has a problem. And he’s not remorseful either.

I think there’s much more to the story here with Watsons addiction. Maybe it will come out in the trial and what the league is concerned with.

Big_D · Aug 8, 2022

TheMarathonContinues said:
I’m so confused on how he only got 6. How do you consider gambling to be worse than what Watson did?

A female judge on top of it. She said the worst suspension for sexual misconduct was 3 games, so she just doubled Watsons! Apparently a lot of thought and deliberating went into that decision?

TheMarathonContinues · Aug 8, 2022

Big_D said:
A female judge on top of it. She said the worst suspension for sexual misconduct was 3 games, so she just doubled Watsons! Apparently a lot of thought and deliberating went into that decision?

She must be high….at least give him something high and then have him appeal. I’m shocked he’s even appealing 6 games but I guess what is it to lose….

zerofill · Aug 8, 2022

PhillyCowboysFan said:
I don’t remember hearing that the girls at the parlor was trafficked. Can you link that?

The only thing I remember seeing was some articles saying, that there are girls trafficked for that. Not that the ones where he was were.

Unless something else came out about it.

Diehardblues · Aug 8, 2022

TheMarathonContinues said:
She must be high….at least give him something high and then have him appeal. I’m shocked he’s even appealing 6 games but I guess what is it to lose….

The fact Watson was so acceptive of the 6 games says it all.

Hopefully next time the Arbitrator will rule closer to what the league is pursuing or this process won’t be any different than we had before.

The intent was to take heat off of Goodell. Not put more on him.

cmoney23 · Aug 8, 2022

TheMarathonContinues said:
Either way…..what Watson is accused of is far more egregious……Watson and Zeke should not have had the same suspension…..just a fact.

But we all agreed that Zeke's suspension/punishment was far to excessive...

So, when you look at it under the guides that the league unfairly, over punished Zeke AND since the League and PA negotiated the new "trial style" judgment proceedings to make things fair. You can't look at past overreactions for precedent. This logic will just continue to over punish people and keep the broken cycle.

Big_D · Aug 8, 2022

TheMarathonContinues said:
She must be high….at least give him something high and then have him appeal. I’m shocked he’s even appealing 6 games but I guess what is it to lose….

Should’ve been an indefinite suspension and 1 year minimum. I still think with the league appeal this could be what happens!

baltcowboy · Aug 8, 2022

acr731 said:
Gee, I don't know Deshaun. There is a big difference between 28 to 30 victims (and there are probably many many more who never came forward) and Kraft and his one time he got caught.

But I get it, wrong is wrong, and if we're going to dole out punishments for misconduct, everyone, no matter your role in an organization, should receive the same accountability

Yeah Deshaun, next time make sure your friends get rid of the video. What Kraft did with a minor is criminal.

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