News: PFT: Jerry Jones unsurprised owner misconduct included in argument on behalf of Deshaun Watson

Praxit · Aug 8, 2022

so Jerry is really saying, "shucks,wish I were 64 again" ..

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baltcowboy · Aug 8, 2022

Cowboy4ever said:
If I remember correctly, Kraft wasn’t sued by the massage Place for sexual misconduct. He got caught via a sting or police raid or something. He was never accused of sexual assault. Or maybe I don’t remember it correctly. But I don’t think what Kraft did is on the same level as what Watson did.

Kraft actually had sex with a minor. Happy endings is an act.

zerofill · Aug 8, 2022

At one point I was reading a bunch of stuff on Watson.

Reality... I think he was a stupid kid, and I think the Texans had a lot to do with it.

Setting him up for appointments, or who to contact. From a lot of things I read, I think some people from the Texans were giving him different
info on these massage therapists.

So you have a dumb kid horny all the time... and stupid people hooking him up. Then it just became a pattern...

For every woman that was ok with it... 6 weren't.

Most of these kids come out dumb as a box of rocks, and think what they saw on the Pron site is reality. I think the Texans had a lot to do with
continuing to make him think it was reality.

A lot of these women sound like they have a right to be PO'd.
I mean it sounds like he is damn lucky someone's boyfriend or husband didn't take care of it.

Then there were others, that I think wanted money... and were actually happy they found a moron they could get it from.

No matter what... He is an idiot, and needs mental help.

hornitosmonster · Aug 8, 2022

sacase said:
What Kraft did was far worse. It's actually sexual assault because the women at that massage parlor were trafficked. They didn't have much choice.

The police botched that case big time

hornitosmonster · Aug 8, 2022

baltcowboy said:
Kraft actually had sex with a minor. Happy endings is an act.

No he did not or heads would have rolled for everyone involved with that case (he was not the only busted for solicitation). As it stands there will be zero convictions from that botched sting operation.

baltcowboy · Aug 8, 2022

hornitosmonster said:
No he did not or heads would have rolled for everyone involved with that case (he was not the only busted for solicitation). As it stands there will be zero convictions from that botched sting operation.

It was on video. The judge destroyed the video because the evidence was obtained illegally.

Cowboy4ever · Aug 8, 2022

baltcowboy said:
Yeah Deshaun, next time make sure your friends get rid of the video. What Kraft did with a minor is criminal.

I haven't read or even heard that a minor was involved. From everything we know, all the women were of legal age. Not saying it was ok or anything, just no evidence I have seen suggest anything in regards to a minor.

acr731 · Aug 8, 2022

Big_D said:
And no crime at all in some places!

Its no crime when you get caught by an illegally installed surveillance camera that violated search and seizure laws. Well, it actually still is a crime, but the case gets thrown out based on what is referred to as the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine. The poisonous fruit in this case is the illegally obtained evidence, which is not admissible.

Big_D · Aug 8, 2022

acr731 said:
Its no crime when you get caught by an illegally installed surveillance camera that violated search and seizure laws. Well, it actually still is a crime, but the case gets thrown out based on what is referred to as the poisonous tree doctrine. Illegally obtained evidence is not admissible.

I’m saying soliciting a prostitute is not a crime in certain places. Not talking about any specifics of the Kraft case.

Motorola · Aug 8, 2022

sunalsorises said:
What is strange about this is Kraft has the resources to take his private jet to Las Vegas and get serviced legally. Instead, he took his private jet to Florida and got serviced at a shady Asian massage parlor which are notorious for being involved in human trafficking.

Going to Las Vegas \ Nevada high-profile brothels for services would markedly increase the opportunity and chances for sex workers and other clients to recognize him....that's why Kraft went to a non-descript massage palor, where the employees aren't aware he's a well-known owner in an extremely high-profile sports league.

acr731 · Aug 8, 2022

Big_D said:
I’m saying soliciting a prostitute is not a crime in certain places.

What 'certain places'? Prostitution is legal in only 1 state, Nevada, and even then it is still illegal there in 7 out of 17 counties. If you want a hooker legally outside of the US you have to go to Europe.

ChuckA1 · Aug 8, 2022

Look, no one complained about Kraft hurting them or forcing himself on anyone. Anyone comparing him to players committing domestic violence or sexual abuse is crazy.

Maxmadden · Aug 8, 2022

hornitosmonster said:
The police botched that case big time

Sounds like the Police obtained a search warrant under the guise of human trafficking.
Then they cast their net and accidentally caught a whale and had to turn all the fish loose except the little ones that have no financial means to protect themselves from the justice system.

The Police couldn't come out empty handed after it was already made public. So all the women were prosecuted and all the men set free. Somebody has to have egg on their face.

sunalsorises · Aug 8, 2022

Motorola said:
Going to Las Vegas \ Nevada high-profile brothels for services would markedly increase the opportunity and chances for sex workers and other clients to recognize him....that's why Kraft went to a non-descript massage palor, where the employees aren't aware he's a well-known owner in an extremely high-profile sports league.

Solid theory but doesn't Vegas deal with rich clientele all the time. Vegas has private floors, private rooms, private dealers, private entrances, private rides from the private airport, etc. I suspect someone with the means could get in and out of Vegas for a quickie almost anytime. With Kraft's money he could probably have Vegas send entertainment to his house.

Motorola · Aug 8, 2022

sunalsorises said:
Solid theory but doesn't Vegas deal with rich clientele all the time. Vegas has private floors, private rooms, private dealers, private entrances, private rides from the private airport, etc. I suspect someone with the means could get in and out of Vegas for a quickie almost anytime. With Kraft's money he could probably have Vegas send entertainment to his house.

Perhaps Kraft didn't want the upscale offerings that were available out west.
Seems like he preferred to find his joy at a spa in a strip shopiping center, or a freestanding joint on a thoroughfare in a 2nd rate Florida business district.

CowboyRoy · Aug 8, 2022

nobody said:
6 games per victim. Sounds fair.

What victims? Watson was the only victim.

sunalsorises · Aug 8, 2022

Motorola said:
Perhaps Kraft didn't want the upscale offerings that were available out west.
Seems like he preferred to find his joy at a spa in a strip shopiping center, or a freestanding joint on a thoroughfare in a 2nd rate Florida business district.

You don't become a billionaire be spending money frivolously, I guess.

Big_D · Aug 8, 2022

acr731 said:
What 'certain places'? Prostitution is legal in only 1 state, Nevada, and even then it is still illegal there in 7 out of 17 counties. If you want a hooker legally outside of the US you have to go to Europe.

if you’re a billionaire with a private jet you can head to Vegas or Reno or Europe. Those are the places. And if the plan is to hit up a massage parlor for a happy ending then go to any of those locales.

CowboyRoy · Aug 8, 2022

sunalsorises said:
What is strange about this is Kraft has the resources to take his private jet to Las Vegas and get serviced legally. Instead, he took his private jet to Florida and got serviced at a shady Asian massage parlor which are notorious for being involved in human trafficking.

Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard. People dont bring girls to the US and make them give massages. LOL

I live in Florida. Most of the Asian massage places are middle aged women.

sunalsorises · Aug 8, 2022

CowboyRoy said:
Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard. People dont bring girls to the US and make them give massages. LOL

I live in Florida. Most of the Asian massage places are middle aged women.

You must not spend a lot of time on the internet if this is the dumbest thing you ever heard

First hit on a quick google search

"The victims trafficked within the illicit massage parlor business are typically women between the ages of 35 and 55, flown in from abroad or recent immigrants to the country (typically from South Korea and China), who speak little English, have children, and are desperate to support their families or pay off existing debts"

https://www.easyllama.com/blog/human-trafficking-massage-parlor

Maybe not the most hard-hitting site but I'm sure the information is based on actual research.

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