New defense contact crackdown

ESisback · Aug 9, 2022

Based on the announced crackdown of defensive contact, how many games will we lose via yellow flag? The timing of these penalties, not the sheer number, will decide it. I say one, maybe two games.

JJHLH1 · Aug 9, 2022

Three, since we are the most penalized team in the league.

We lost our playoff game last year due to our 14 penalties again San Francisco.

Gregory had 3 of those, and 0 sacks. Glad he’s gone.

Haimerej · Aug 9, 2022

You're supposed to be optimistic. Shouldn't you be asking how many games we win because of it?

ESisback · Aug 9, 2022

Haimerej said:
You're supposed to be optimistic. Shouldn't you be asking how many games we win because of it?

I’m optimistic that we’ll have a good team. I’m also fairly confident that flags will negatively impact our win total.

Hawkeye0202 · Aug 9, 2022

ESisback said:
Based on the announced crackdown of defensive contact, how many games will we lose via yellow flag? The timing of these penalties, not the sheer number, will decide it. I say one, maybe two games.

Players and coaches are responsible for KNOWING their official's calling habits. Some will call it tight, others won't.

Reid1boys · Aug 9, 2022

ESisback said:
Based on the announced crackdown of defensive contact, how many games will we lose via yellow flag? The timing of these penalties, not the sheer number, will decide it. I say one, maybe two games.

it sure decided the Raider game on Thanksgiving.

john van brocklin · Aug 9, 2022

ESisback said:
Based on the announced crackdown of defensive contact, how many games will we lose via yellow flag? The timing of these penalties, not the sheer number, will decide it. I say one, maybe two games.

I just hate the impact on the games.
It really destroys the flow of the games.
Fans aren't watching to see the refs every 5 minutes.

ESisback · Aug 9, 2022

JJHLH1 said:
Three, since we are the most penalized team in the league.

We lost our playoff game last year due to our 14 penalties again San Francisco.

Gregory had 3 of those, and 0 sacks. Glad he’s gone.

Actually, we were #3 in NUMBER of penalties. IMHO, the biggest impact is WHEN the flags appear, which I’d wager we were #1 at.

ESisback · Aug 9, 2022

Subjective penalties (roughing, interference, holding), always very close and hotly contested, always seem to pop up on big plays in our favor. A late game score or big first down that basically guarantees a win, nullified by holding or illegal formation; a big stop on third or fourth down to preserve a win? Interference or roughing the passer! How many times have we seen a big play, and thought “where’s the flag?” Bam, there it is! Yeah, it happens to everyone, but I’d bet the farm it happens most to the Dallas Cowboys.

JJHLH1 · Aug 9, 2022

ESisback said:
Actually, we were #3 in NUMBER of penalties. IMHO, the biggest impact is WHEN the flags appear, which I’d wager we were #1 at.

The Cowboys led the NFL with 127 penalties last season.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/what-is-the-most-penalties-by-an-nfl-team-in-2021

ESisback · Aug 9, 2022

JJHLH1 said:
The Cowboys led the NFL with 127 penalties last season.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/what-is-the-most-penalties-by-an-nfl-team-in-2021

I read somewhere we were #3. Maybe that was 2020. In any event, my point remains. WHEN they happen is even more game changing, and I’d wager we’re #1 there as well. The Cowboys are the most polarizing, hyped, popular, wealthiest, valued, hated team, and as such are watched more closely.

glimmerman · Aug 9, 2022

Let’s see how many other teams it effects.

Flamma · Aug 9, 2022

Reid1boys said:
it sure decided the Raider game on Thanksgiving.

It did. But Brown helped by committing all of those penalties. It's like he never played CB in his life. He was absolutely garbage. Dude, turn the hell around!!!

I swear, players 30 years ago played the deep ball much better than they do today. Just go back and watch. I don't want to hear they're bigger, faster, whatever, a 40 yard lob is a 40 yard lob. It's the same today as it was 30 years ago. Yet 30 years ago you don't see DBs slamming into the WR. They looked back.

ESisback · Aug 9, 2022

Flamma said:
It did. But Brown helped by committing all of those penalties. It's like he never played CB in his life. He was absolutely garbage. Dude, turn the hell around!!!

I swear, players 30 years ago played the deep ball much better than they do today. Just go back and watch. I don't want to hear they're bigger, faster, whatever, a 40 yard lob is a 40 yard lob. It's the same today as it was 30 years ago. Yet 30 years ago you don't see DBs slamming into the WR. They looked back.

I think you’re right. They seemed to defend better in the old days. Of course defenders now are handcuffed. They also pass more.

MountaineerCowboy · Aug 9, 2022

Excuses already.

Weak mentality.

TwoDeep3 · Aug 9, 2022

With new rules taking away the physicality of the game we have loved for years comes a new uniform to illustrate where this game is headed.

Flamma · Aug 9, 2022

ESisback said:
I think you’re right. They seemed to defend better in the old days. Of course defenders now are handcuffed. They also pass more.

They're defending differently today. Today they follow the WR and stick their hand in the catch zone when the WR is about to catch the ball. Rarely do they look back. So an underthrown ball would be a problem. Years ago they rarely if ever used that technique. This is probably because QBs have a little more time to throw today.

You would think passing more would adjust you better to pass plays. You shouldn't be taken by surprise.

Go back to the Raiders game in OT. What was the down and distance on that last PI against Brown? It was like 3rd and 15 or more, right? NO WAY should Brown not have safety help over the top. No excuse for that. They weren't running the ball.

big dog cowboy · Aug 9, 2022

ESisback said:
Based on the announced crackdown of defensive contact, how many games will we lose via yellow flag?

Net effect will be 0

It will work both ways with Cowboys winning and losing.

Reid1boys · Aug 9, 2022

Flamma said:
It did. But Brown helped by committing all of those penalties. It's like he never played CB in his life. He was absolutely garbage. Dude, turn the hell around!!!

I swear, players 30 years ago played the deep ball much better than they do today. Just go back and watch. I don't want to hear they're bigger, faster, whatever, a 40 yard lob is a 40 yard lob. It's the same today as it was 30 years ago. Yet 30 years ago you don't see DBs slamming into the WR. They looked back.

Revisionist history my friend. 30 years ago they manhandled receivers all over the field and it was "part of the game." Thus refs didn't call it near as much.

Flamma · Aug 9, 2022

Reid1boys said:
Revisionist history my friend. 30 years ago they manhandled receivers all over the field and it was "part of the game." Thus refs didn't call it near as much.

30 years ago you still couldn't touch a WR past 5 yards. I've been watching the games. They've been pointing that out. People forget how long ago that rule was changed. As of 1974 you couldn't touch a WR past 5 yards.

But this has nothing to do with what I said. My point was about DBs turning around when the ball is in the air.

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