Jaylon Smith is still unsigned

gimmesix

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If he deserved to be in the Pro Bowl..then that blocking sled deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

This is the NFL. You have to consider the guys in that lockeroom and the coaches. ALL of them could see this guy in the film room. You would lose all credibility if you continued the clown show that was Jaylon Smith. Which is why Quinn (who had no ties to him and I am pretty sure told Jerry that if you want my defense to work, you have to get Jaylon off the field and out of the building). I've watched the tape. It is some of the most jaw dropping tape I have ever seen. And not in a good way. Every game he looked as if he had just started playing football that day. He simply was just running around out there. Showing up to piles and diving on top of them. Occasionally he would jump on a ball carriers back after he was 7+ yards down the field.

I said it back then. I said he would never make it out of another teams training camp. Little did I know he it would be true because he would never be invited!!!!!!!

If you are talking about his last couple of years here, you are absolutely right. If you are talking about his Pro Bowl year, you seem to be viewing it based on his last couple of years here. He played at a Pro Bowl level his Pro Bowl year, which is why he made his first Pro Bowl.

The players, coaches and owners were really excited about Jaylon for a couple of years there when he seemed to have overcome his injury and become not just a starting-caliber player, but a Pro Bowl-caliber player. That's why he got the contract extension. After that, I agree that he became pretty much everything that you say here.
 

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To tell you the truth, I want to say Trysten Hill. Because he was a healthy scratch for a whole year. But Hill still has a chance to prove himself, where as the others guys time in Dallas has come and gone.

But I'm going to agree with you on Conner. He was our smallest offensive lineman and he played against the defenses biggest tackle. So you draft a excellent college tackle then never put him at tackle. His calling card with foot speed not strength, so they tried to force a square peg into a round hole.

And that's the other thing, the only way Williams would've worked is if he had been put at RT and the coaching staff had Collins at LG, which he'd done before. If we had done that, then Williams might've actually developed into a solid RT. The problem is that he's too late to be developed into what he should have been. With the way they tried to play Williams, he was never going to be successful. It simply didn't fit his skills, and everyone knew it except for Garrett. By the time they probably realised it, it was too late. Hill actually was having a decent 2020 season until his ACL injury. That's more of why I think Williams was the worst one, and that, imo, was a direct result of our coaching staff under Garrett thinking that the flex would work on an olineman.
 

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I'm sure the doc didn't give guarantees, and certainly didn't give a prognosis on Smith's mentality for the job.
Probably not guarantees, but he/she said something that led Jerry and the Cowboys staff select him in the second round.
I know if it were me, I'm not touching him in the second round. And if I do, I'm leaning very heavily on what the team doctors say because he suffered a catastrophic injury, and I'm picking high in the second round - meaning I'm passing up other talent for him assuming he's going to be close to his self before the injury.
 

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Don’t know why some of you have such a hatred for Jaylon that you can’t just let it go. I’m not going hate the guy because he couldn’t return to form from a devastating injury in college. It wasn’t his fault the Joneses took a chance on him with a premium draft pick.
 

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Jaylon's problem wasn't just physical, but mental. He was slow to react and often took bad angles. The guy is apparently also lousy at skill self-assessment, i.e., he thinks he is better than he actually is. But you can't cry for him. He's a multi-millionaire despite all of these things and doesn't have to work again.
 

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One of the worst 2nd round picks in Cowboys history. Many teams had him off their boards because the science said his knee won't even be close to 100% but Mr. Stubborn Jones thought that he could outsmart the rest of the NFL but once again he was wrong.
 

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Jaylon's problem wasn't just physical, but mental. He was slow to react and often took bad angles. The guy is apparently also lousy at skill self-assessment, i.e., he thinks he is better than he actually is. But you can't cry for him. He's a multi-millionaire despite all of these things and doesn't have to work again.

100%

Folks want to chalk this up to just his injury but it was clear he was lacking in the mental part of the game.
 

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And the prize for the worst second round draft pick in the Garrett era goes too....

A) Gavin Escobar.
B) Jaylon Smith.
C) Trysten Hill.
D) Conner Williams.

Who you got?

its Jaylon Smith hands down. There’s no way in hell you draft a player at 34 with that kind of injury. When Jerry makes a ridiculous move like that, he actually thinks he beat everyone else to the punch.

Hill was a desperation pick after just getting completely run over. But the other 2 at the very least didn’t have a devastating injury! These were all poor decisions but 34th overall you can find immediate help. Not voluntarily wait a year and hope the guy you just drafted could ever play football again.
 

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Jaylon would be an all pro if he attacked the offense instead of waiting 3-4 seconds after the ball is snapped and running when the play finally develops
 

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One of the worst 2nd round picks in Cowboys history. Many teams had him off their boards because the science said his knee won't even be close to 100% but Mr. Stubborn Jones thought that he could outsmart the rest of the NFL but once again he was wrong.
He really was too big of a risk considering his injuries, but Jerry won’t admit being wrong. It’s pathetic that the second round has become the round where Dallas picks players with horrible injuries and they never work out.
 

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Probably not guarantees, but he/she said something that led Jerry and the Cowboys staff select him in the second round.
I know if it were me, I'm not touching him in the second round. And if I do, I'm leaning very heavily on what the team doctors say because he suffered a catastrophic injury, and I'm picking high in the second round - meaning I'm passing up other talent for him assuming he's going to be close to his self before the injury.
I went back and looked at old media write ups. The quote from Dr. Cooper was “I also think he has a very good chance of getting his nerve recovery back,” The doc also said up front Smith would need to take a year off and see how things progress.

I can't fault the doc for that. Jerry knew that "very good chance" is not a sure thing, and he knew that it was serious enough it would take a lot of time and hard work. Besides, it's kind of hard to quantify how much of Smith's problems were due to foot problems anyway, or even if at all. He made boatloads of tackles, just didn't stuff the run at the line of scrimmage so that too many of those were after 4-8 yard gains. That might just speak to not being a hardnosed, take on blockers and fight through traffic kind of player.
 

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If you are talking about his last couple of years here, you are absolutely right. If you are talking about his Pro Bowl year, you seem to be viewing it based on his last couple of years here. He played at a Pro Bowl level his Pro Bowl year, which is why he made his first Pro Bowl.

The players, coaches and owners were really excited about Jaylon for a couple of years there when he seemed to have overcome his injury and become not just a starting-caliber player, but a Pro Bowl-caliber player. That's why he got the contract extension. After that, I agree that he became pretty much everything that you say here.
We can agree to disagree. I have seen the tape of his "pro bowl" year. I will admit he made some splash plays. But he was average on just down in and down out solid LBer play. After his "pro bowl" year...his average play went to below average pretty quickly. And near the end it was obvious (even though he was STARTING)...that he was not a football player....at ANY level. He had no business being on a NFL field...and I wouldn't have even had him on a college field. Like I said, he looked as if he was just introduced to football prior to kickoff.
 

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The whole thing is just sad. From Smith’s bowl game to him not getting picked up this year. Just sad.

I feel bad for the guy. I definitely don’t want him on my team though.
 

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When you're on 3 different teams all over a single season you're likely nearing the end of your career.

The road show exposed him to a greater number of people in the league system. Whispers move fast.

It will be harder for him to latch onto to a situation where the staff doesn't have a friend on either the Cowboys, Packers or Giants who can give a private "low down" on Jaylon's knee.

This situation is all about a knee that is finally deteriorating at a rapid pace. He will be way happier out of football.
 

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Watching his play on the field as a Cowboy was the lowest I have ever been as a fan of the team.
 

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You have to consider the guys in that lockeroom and the coaches. ALL of them could see this guy in the film room. You would lose all credibility if you continued the clown show that was Jaylon Smith.

It was unfathomable that they kept up the charade as long as they did. Again, another indication of "protecting the previous decision" rather than just admitting a mistake & moving forward for the betterment of the team.

I stated numerous times that every player on the team & certainly defense should have been livid that this guy remained a starter when the film clearly showed he wasn't.
 

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There's no shame in being Jaylon Smith. He's a great guy. He simply doesn't have the skills to succeed in the NFL, something that's true of most people. Maybe he just never fully recovered from that injury, or maybe he was just one of the ones who can do well in college, but not the NFL. I wish him a great life.
 
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