Just because you paid him does not make him worth it

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I don’t know what jerry was thinking this FA. You have a good team that need some tweaks. Instead you let some guys go and don’t back fill with near quality players much less add those tweaks we needed. Still hopeful that our youth improves to make up the diff.

This is what he does every year regardless of our previous season.
 

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Finally have a defense and now the line needs to be rebuilt. Jerry cant afford another lean year in FA. He is going to have to spend ANOTHER first rounder on a tackle or Center and then go out and get a 1 tech DT. We get two more studs at those positions and the Cowboys are contenders.
We don't have a D yet.
 

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When I was a kid, I used to think the same thing. And I thought it was the RB and not the line. But when you get all grown up and you learn the game it's not tough.

Playing Fantasy football for 20 years definitely helps. Those that dont play fantasy will never truly understand the game.
And then at some point you realize it's both.
 

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I don't have a problem with Dak getting paid. It is what it is. But just because you paid him...that does not mean his performance equates to his paycheck. Jerry should KNOW this. Just because Dallas is the most highly valued franchise in all of sports...that does not mean the product on the field is the cream of the crop. Jerry is reluctant to pay people because he is not sure their performance will equal their paycheck...but he has no problem stuffing his pockets with all the money he can, all the while the performance of his team does not reflect the franchise value.

Dak is who he is. His ceiling is Russell Wilson. BUT. BUT. You have to have the right pieces around him. Coaching, the Legion of Boom, the running game and defense allowed Russell Wilson to be the best version of himself and he maximized his potential and had a couple of Super Bowl runs. Why would we take the #1 offense in the NFL last year....and downgrade the WRs corps by a lot? The Oline is downgraded. The RB position is downgraded (Zeke is who he is at this point...and you don't get better as you age). Mike McCarthy is no Pete Carrol. And AT&T stadium is not the homefield advantage that Seattle had.

We have seen Dak without WRs before. It was not pretty. We are trying something that has already failed. Teams are going to load the box and force Dak to beat them with Lamb and (3rd round rookie, USFL star, undrafted rookie etc...). We will try to run into a loaded box. Get into predictable 3rd and longs when the run is stuffed. And be under a lot of pressure to convert unfavorable down and distances multiple times per drive. Oh, I forgot to mix in a penalty from the OL. Like I said, we have seen this before, it is not rocket science. Oh, I almost forgot, we will probably put up enough yards to appear.....

I cannot take this team seriously. I knew not to take them seriously when I witnessed the comedy club act at McCarthys signing. Then he immediately went to work proving to be the clown we now know he is. The one thing Jerry had done over the Garrett years and now McCarthy... is keep enough talent on the field to give off the appearance of a title team in SPITE of the coaching. But the one thing you HAVE to have when your talent on the field is AVERAGE....is good coaching. And going into this season, I seriously question the talent on the field. And we now know it was not McCarthy in Green Bay, it was Rodgers. And I don't care what stats Dak has/will put up...he ain't Rodgers.
No way in hell can the TOAD HUNTER be mentioned in the same sentence as Russel Wilson. These two are night and day, butter and mayonnaises, oil and water or Rams and Jacsonville, they just don't mix. If there is a meaningful game to be had, I'll put my money on Wilson every time. TOADIE, turns into a joke every time he's faced with a meaningful game. At least with Wilson he gives a team a chance to win big games. Before Cooper was shown the door, he had a few things to say and for those who could read between the lines it was pretty much directed at TOADIE for his inabilities to get both the receivers and TEs the ball. Just think what $75 million would have gotten the Boys if they had release TOADIE!
 

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I didn't hear any complaining about Dak being so underpaid his first four seasons. i guess it's okay for a team to pay slightly less than a million a year for a QB that starts every single game his first four seasons sets three new rookie records, makes two pro Bowls, and takes his team to two playoffs, with a regular season record of 40-24.

What is Dak's average salary per year over his 6 year career thus far.?

It's around 11 million a year so far for a guy that has started 87.6% of all regular season games. Among all QB's that have thrown 2000 or more pass attempts since 2016, Dak is 3rd in completion percentage, 5th lowest INT percentage, 7th in QB rating, 6th in game winning drives, 8th in yards per completion, 4th in yards per rushing attempt, 2nd in rushing TD's and 4th in wins.

At this exact point in time the Cowboys have received a tremendous bargain when it comes to the salary of their starting quarterback. Even after the next two seasons it will still average out to slightly more than 16 million a year.
 

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I didn't hear any complaining about Dak being so underpaid his first four seasons. i guess it's okay for a team to pay slightly less than a million a year for a QB that starts every single game his first four seasons sets three new rookie records, makes two pro Bowls, and takes his team to two playoffs, with a regular season record of 40-24.

What is Dak's average salary per year over his 6 year career thus far.?

It's around 11 million a year so far for a guy that has started 87.6% of all regular season games. Among all QB's that have thrown 2000 or more pass attempts since 2016, Dak is 3rd in completion percentage, 5th lowest INT percentage, 7th in QB rating, 6th in game winning drives, 8th in yards per completion, 4th in yards per rushing attempt, 2nd in rushing TD's and 4th in wins.

At this exact point in time the Cowboys have received a tremendous bargain when it comes to the salary of their starting quarterback. Even after the next two seasons it will still average out to slightly more than 16 million a year.
He was offered more his 4th year and turned it down
 

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I didn't hear any complaining about Dak being so underpaid his first four seasons. i guess it's okay for a team to pay slightly less than a million a year for a QB that starts every single game his first four seasons sets three new rookie records, makes two pro Bowls, and takes his team to two playoffs, with a regular season record of 40-24.

What is Dak's average salary per year over his 6 year career thus far.?

It's around 11 million a year so far for a guy that has started 87.6% of all regular season games. Among all QB's that have thrown 2000 or more pass attempts since 2016, Dak is 3rd in completion percentage, 5th lowest INT percentage, 7th in QB rating, 6th in game winning drives, 8th in yards per completion, 4th in yards per rushing attempt, 2nd in rushing TD's and 4th in wins.

At this exact point in time the Cowboys have received a tremendous bargain when it comes to the salary of their starting quarterback. Even after the next two seasons it will still average out to slightly more than 16 million a year.
That is a good point, to avg in the 4 low pay years.
I dont care about his stats though, unless someone will compile his playoff stats, and big games against worthy opponent stats.

IMO jerry painted himself into a corner with dak, so had to pay what dak wanted,and include the no trade clause.
Jerry never looked or tried for another QB,so wound up with no options but to pay dak or go with a low quality qb for a season or 2.

Is dak worth the $, no , but neither are the other high paid QB.s, they are all overpaid.

The time to win with dak, was in the 1st 4 years, and jones boys wasted that with garrett, and now again possibly with Mike and Kellen.
 

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That is a good point, to avg in the 4 low pay years.
I dont care about his stats though, unless someone will compile his playoff stats, and big games against worthy opponent stats.

IMO jerry painted himself into a corner with dak, so had to pay what dak wanted,and include the no trade clause.
Jerry never looked or tried for another QB,so wound up with no options but to pay dak or go with a low quality qb for a season or 2.

Is dak worth the $, no , but neither are the other high paid QB.s, they are all overpaid.

The time to win with dak, was in the 1st 4 years, and jones boys wasted that with garrett, and now again possibly with Mike and Kellen.
Absolutely agree on all points.

I just don't understand why the Cowboys don't make more of a commitment to develop competition at the position. If the Cowboys drafted a QB once every three years in the top three rounds then they would have more leverage in negotiations. Also, they would have a cheap option at backup with the added ability to use them as premium trade bait.

Really, they should have extended Dak after or even during his third season. They could have paid far less.
 

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Absolutely agree on all points.

I just don't understand why the Cowboys don't make more of a commitment to develop competition at the position. If the Cowboys drafted a QB once every three years in the top three rounds then they would have more leverage in negotiations. Also, they would have a cheap option at backup with the added ability to use them as premium trade bait.

Really, they should have extended Dak after or even during his third season. They could have paid far less.
true, I guess jones boys are really afraid of any type of qb controversy.
I agree they should be drafting some in like 2nd round, which would have been better than some of the 2nd round picks they went with
 

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I don't have a problem with Dak getting paid. It is what it is. But just because you paid him...that does not mean his performance equates to his paycheck. Jerry should KNOW this. Just because Dallas is the most highly valued franchise in all of sports...that does not mean the product on the field is the cream of the crop. Jerry is reluctant to pay people because he is not sure their performance will equal their paycheck...but he has no problem stuffing his pockets with all the money he can, all the while the performance of his team does not reflect the franchise value.

Dak is who he is. His ceiling is Russell Wilson. BUT. BUT. You have to have the right pieces around him. Coaching, the Legion of Boom, the running game and defense allowed Russell Wilson to be the best version of himself and he maximized his potential and had a couple of Super Bowl runs. Why would we take the #1 offense in the NFL last year....and downgrade the WRs corps by a lot? The Oline is downgraded. The RB position is downgraded (Zeke is who he is at this point...and you don't get better as you age). Mike McCarthy is no Pete Carrol. And AT&T stadium is not the homefield advantage that Seattle had.

We have seen Dak without WRs before. It was not pretty. We are trying something that has already failed. Teams are going to load the box and force Dak to beat them with Lamb and (3rd round rookie, USFL star, undrafted rookie etc...). We will try to run into a loaded box. Get into predictable 3rd and longs when the run is stuffed. And be under a lot of pressure to convert unfavorable down and distances multiple times per drive. Oh, I forgot to mix in a penalty from the OL. Like I said, we have seen this before, it is not rocket science. Oh, I almost forgot, we will probably put up enough yards to appear.....

I cannot take this team seriously. I knew not to take them seriously when I witnessed the comedy club act at McCarthys signing. Then he immediately went to work proving to be the clown we now know he is. The one thing Jerry had done over the Garrett years and now McCarthy... is keep enough talent on the field to give off the appearance of a title team in SPITE of the coaching. But the one thing you HAVE to have when your talent on the field is AVERAGE....is good coaching. And going into this season, I seriously question the talent on the field. And we now know it was not McCarthy in Green Bay, it was Rodgers. And I don't care what stats Dak has/will put up...he ain't Rodgers.
I don’t get your complaint
 

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Most people agree they should have ran it .... but that ain't the play that was called. As a second year QB, he wasn't calling plays in a SB. Besides, the play call was fine. The Patriots just did their homework better and took the chance they knew what was coming.
I disagree. There was nothing fine about that pass play being called when there there was a RB that was running over the defense every time that he carried the ball. Pete made one of the worst play calls in Super Bowl history.
 

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HATER!!!!:muttley:
Prime example was this past seasons Broncos game going into the 4th Q we were down 30-0 and then the Broncos defense guess felt sorry for Dakko and let him plug in some garbage stats.......:grin:
Dak obsessed troll. Get a life.
 

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Most QBs need pieces around them. Most SB winners have a very good defense. The niners had a running game and defense. Heck the egirls win with foles.

People watch brady win a basket full of sb rings and think a qb can carry a team. Does Dak need more pieces than others.. maybe. But he can get it done. We had a descent team but started expecting more maybe to fast from a second year QB. 2016 was a amazing year for a rookie. He has learned to beat the blitz. Now he is working on reading defenses. Should be more confident in letting it go. He was improving every year until a nasty injury. I am wanting to see what this year brings with a improved Defense.
How and why are you banking on the defense? The money is on the other side of the ball. The only improvement(Parsons)was there last year..digs most likely will regress bc he over runs routes going for picks. We haven’t added a high level corner or anyone that makes me think this year will be better than last…I hope I’m wrong though. Offense will need to carry defense not the other way around.
 

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I disagree. There was nothing fine about that pass play being called when there there was a RB that was running over the defense every time that he carried the ball. Pete made one of the worst play calls in Super Bowl history.
The playcall was terrible. Russ can't see over the LOS, how can he see the DB sneaking up? A pass to the corner or the outside would've been an excellent call.
 

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Absolutely agree on all points.

I just don't understand why the Cowboys don't make more of a commitment to develop competition at the position. If the Cowboys drafted a QB once every three years in the top three rounds then they would have more leverage in negotiations. Also, they would have a cheap option at backup with the added ability to use them as premium trade bait.

Really, they should have extended Dak after or even during his third season. They could have paid far less.
Geeez, they tried. Dak agreed, and then renegged. How do people not know this?
 
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