Will Cowboys Penalty Reputation keep hurting them

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The continuing penalties are very concerning/frustrating but we've seem to gotten to a point where the refs are reflexively throwing flags against the Cowboys. Many are probably justified but I've seen players from other teams do similar things but they don't get a flag because unlike in many of the instances involving Cowboys, they let them slide. All a Cowboys opponent has to do is act like there's a hold and contort their body acting like it and the flag comes out. Overall, it just seems the Cowboys have lost any benefit of the doubt by the referees. There were two examples last night. The hold on Tyler Smith where the defender was falling down and Smith just pushed him to where he was falling and the Unecessary Roughness on Sam Williams which was a technically sound hit.
 
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Jkyle said:
The continuing penalties are very concerning/frustrating but we've seem to gotten to a point where the refs are reflexively throwing flags against the Cowboys. Many are probably justified but I've seen players from other teams do similar things but they don't get a flag because unlike in many of the instances involving Cowboys, they let them slide. All a Cowboys opponent has to do is act like there's a hold and contort their body acting like it and the flag comes out. Overall, it just seems the Cowboys have lost any benefit of the doubt by the referees. There were two examples last night. The hold on Tyler Smith where the defender was falling down and Smith just pushed him to where he was falling and the Unecessary Roughness on Sam Williams which was a technically sound hit.
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Stephen Jones is on the league competition committee. Does he feel it is a legitimate conern like a number of Cowboys fee? Wonder if he has brought it up at the meetings?
 

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Ummmmmmmmmmm hold on while I contemplate your question..............WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I do think the Cowboys have a reputation for being an undisciplined team, so refs are probably unconsciously biased and expecting the Cowboys to commit a penalty.
 
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It does appear that is what has happened. No benefit of the doubt given. Throw the flag and ask questions later.
 
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Well...here is how I look at it. The Cowboys might be one of the most well known sports teams in the entire world. People who ref football games probably grew up as...fans of football. Fans of football have 2 opinions on the Dallas Cowboys. Hate and Love. There are very few people who are fans of football that have no opinion either which way about the Cowboys. Hell there are several posters on this very forum pretending to be a fan of this team that hate the Cowboys more then fellow NFC East fans. I have no doubt 1 poster who is always posting negatively on here would throw 30 penalties on the Cowboys if he was reffing just to spite them. You all probably know who I'm talking about. What does all this mean?

Refs start reffing and no matter how much they want to pretend they can ref the Cowboys fair, they just can't. They are humans. Imagine growing up in Philadelphia and then going into reffing NFL games as a career. Got to ref the Dolphins...easy...who gives a **** about the dolphins..Jaguars..cake walk. Bills no problemo...Cowboys....**** that was close enough to throw this flag on.
 
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McCarthy’s Packers teams were regularly among the NFL’s LEAST penalized.

The entire sport of football requires discipline to have success.

So we’re SUPER disciplined when it comes to moving the ball, scoring points and taking the ball away (#1 in NFL in yards, points and takeaways).....

Yet somehow, in the one area of the game the refs control, we’re WILDLY undisciplined???

Sure. Totally legitimate.
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Dallasfann said:
Well...here is how I look at it. The Cowboys might be one of the most well known sports teams in the entire world. People who ref football games probably grew up as...fans of football. Fans of football have 2 opinions on the Dallas Cowboys. Hate and Love. There are very few people who are fans of football that have no opinion either which way about the Cowboys. What does all this mean?

Refs start reffing and no matter how much they want to pretend they can ref the Cowboys fair, they just can't. They are humans. Imagine growing up in Philadelphia and then going into reffing NFL games as a career. Got to ref the Dolphins...easy...who gives a **** about the dolphins..Jaguars..cake walk. Bills no problemo...Cowboys....**** that was close enough to throw this flag on.
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That has always been my theory as well! Not necessarily purposeful but human nature.
 
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Nav22 said:
McCarthy’s Packers teams were regularly among the NFL’s LEAST penalized.

The entire sport of football requires discipline to have success.

So we’re SUPER disciplined when it comes to moving the ball, scoring points and taking the ball away (#1 in NFL in yards, points and takeaways).....

Yet somehow, in the one area of the game the refs control, we’re WILDLY undisciplined???

Sure. Totally legitimate.
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the GB holds were not called but when its cowboys all of them are called , go figure.
 
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Nav22 said:
McCarthy’s Packers teams were regularly among the NFL’s LEAST penalized.

The entire sport of football requires discipline to have success.

So we’re SUPER disciplined when it comes to moving the ball, scoring points and taking the ball away (#1 in NFL in yards, points and takeaways).....

Yet somehow, in the one area of the game the refs control, we’re WILDLY undisciplined???

Sure. Totally legitimate.
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Yeah, I mean the interior holds are hard to recognize all the time in a game. But the number of times our ends get the hook up around the neck without being called versus when we get called for it are just too numerous to count!
 
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Jkyle said:
The continuing penalties are very concerning/frustrating but we've seem to gotten to a point where the refs are reflexively throwing flags against the Cowboys. Many are probably justified but I've seen players from other teams do similar things but they don't get a flag because unlike in many of the instances involving Cowboys, they let them slide. All a Cowboys opponent has to do is act like there's a hold and contort their body acting like it and the flag comes out. Overall, it just seems the Cowboys have lost any benefit of the doubt by the referees. There were two examples last night. The hold on Tyler Smith where the defender was falling down and Smith just pushed him to where he was falling and the Unecessary Roughness on Sam Williams which was a technically sound hit.
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It already is.
Our Oline probably are not getting as much benefit of the doubt as the rest of the league.
 
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Nav22 said:
McCarthy’s Packers teams were regularly among the NFL’s LEAST penalized.

The entire sport of football requires discipline to have success.

So we’re SUPER disciplined when it comes to moving the ball, scoring points and taking the ball away (#1 in NFL in yards, points and takeaways).....

Yet somehow, in the one area of the game the refs control, we’re WILDLY undisciplined???

Sure. Totally legitimate.
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This.. Kinda funny that while in GB one of the least but here the most penalized team...things that make you go hmmmm....
 
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The team is sloppy and doesn't play clean. If you want to argue that not all those penalties should have been called, fine. We had 17 accepted penalties. But we also had 2 plays where there was more than one foul and another where the penalty was declined. So we actually committed 20 penalties. Even if you want to split hairs and pair a few off as tacky, its still incredibly sloppy football, and that's a direct reflection on the coaches and the morons in the front office who meddle and undermine.
 
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refs make bad calls and miss calls all of the time. They aren't calling more penalties against us because of some "reputation". They are doing so because in their opinion our players are committing more or doing more of what looks like a penalty to them. No ref is out to get us and refs just call what they see (or think they see). We need to look within for the problem and stop blaming refs.
 
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Jarntt said:
refs make bad calls and miss calls all of the time. They aren't calling more penalties against us because of some "reputation". They are doing so because in their opinion our players are committing more or doing more of what looks like a penalty to them. No ref is out to get us and refs just call what they see (or think they see). We need to look within for the problem and stop blaming refs.
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Both can be true, a Ref can be calling what he thinks is a fair call and could be watching for said call because of a rep the player has...Take the PI calls against Brown vs the Raiders...they could be called on most DB's every game but are not, but in that game the ref's did make them all on Brown...doesn't have to be "out to get them" activity by the refs it could be a pre conversation that leads to closer eye on that player.
 
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Every officiating crew shares scouting reports as well as the reports filed with the league office about certain players and their propensity for committing fouls by the clubs.

They also get graded after every game and missing apparent fouls doesn't go down well with the league office.

The most preposterous suggestion is that the officials, in cahoots with the league office, purposefully target the #1 ratings getter to keep them down. That is patently nuts because it goes against the #1 goal of the NFL, money. If they were going to fix it, they would have fixed it to get them into a SB in the last 27 years.
 
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CouchCoach said:
Every officiating crew shares scouting reports as well as the reports filed with the league office about certain players and their propensity for committing fouls by the clubs.

They also get graded after every game and missing apparent fouls doesn't go down well with the league office.

The most preposterous suggestion is that the officials, in cahoots with the league office, purposefully target the #1 ratings getter to keep them down. That is patently nuts because it goes against the #1 goal of the NFL, money. If they were going to fix it, they would have fixed it to get them into a SB in the last 27 years.
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It stands to reason that Ratings drive money and Cowboys drive ratings and a Cowboys SB will make the most money..........
 
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