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We need him to be healthy this year.

Can't miss more than 3 games.

Wasn't pretty but his campaign last season coming off a major surgery was respectable, most thought he'd retire. 2021 season: Day 1 pro bowl roster, 3rd place on the all-pro voting for LT, NFL top 100 list.

Dudes a beast. You can complain all you want about his injuries but he's still an animal.

He makes the hall of fame right now within 3 years of being eligible (8x pro bowl, 7x NFL top 100, 1st team all-decade, 1st/2nd team all-pro 4x)

J12B said:

We need him to be healthy this year.

Can't miss more than 3 games.

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He he good, when he cam play.

Give me the 110th ranked player who can start 17 games. He’s been great for us but it’s time to move on.

Anyone who wears a knee brace on his elbow gets my vote!

Quite frankly it’s time to move on. Yes he was a bear but he holds the cowboys hostage unintentionally

We are a different team without him in the field and he misses too much time my guess is he misses 6 games or plays hurt and less effective in that many

Tussinman said:

Wasn't pretty but his campaign last season coming off a major surgery was respectable, most thought he'd retire. 2021 season: Day 1 pro bowl roster, 3rd place on the all-pro voting for LT, NFL top 100 list.

Dudes a beast. You can complain all you want about his injuries but he's still an animal.

He makes the hall of fame right now within 3 years of being eligible (8x pro bowl, 7x NFL top 100, 1st team all-decade, 1st/2nd team all-pro 4x)

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Love my Cowboys. Been a fan since the 70s. But there is a big window of Cowboys football that does not stand out to me as HOFish. I know people have wondered aloud if Romo should get consideration. I loved Romo. I think a lot of those 8-8 teams would have been 4-12 without him. But you cannot win 2 playoff games in your career and be a HOF QB. Witten was a great great player when Parcells was here. He was really good after Parcells left for a window. Then the rest I thought he was just a stat padder. Again, he will make the HOF due to sheer stats. But I know many people on this board think it will be first ballot...and I cannot see that happening at all. Way too many other better players had to wait and I think he will eventually get in, but some of you all are really setting yourselves up for disappointment when it does not happen on the 1st couple of tries. I feel the same way about Tyron Smith. Great Great player for a decent window. Then kind of getting by on reputation after that. If he gets in, it will be after a couple of tries. I think Zach Martin gets in, but again, without postseason success, will he get in first ballot?

My overall point is we simply do not win. When you are lumped in with the Lions and the Commanders as the only teams in the last 25+ year to not play in the conference championship...how many HOFers do you really have? Do the Commanders have any over that window? Do the Lions have any over that window? I guess Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson come to mind. But are there any Cowboys over the last 25 years that have had the impact of Barry Sanders or Calvin Johnson?

We know who our HOFer over the last 25 years is. Jerry Jones. And he has been the face of the franchise over that window. So I guess this has worked out for him. He got his 3 rings from Jimmy. Then got his HOF jacket running the organization like he wants to run it. And from a business perspective, it has been HOF worthy.

J12B said:

We need him to be healthy this year.

Can't miss more than 3 games.

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My expectations for Smith is about 8 games a season at best....

Where does he rank in number of games missed due to injury? Sean Lee was top 10, but I am curious where Tyron ranks.

So Josh Ball is higher than Smith? Nice!

Waiting to see where Andy Dalton and Cooper Rush are on this list since the Dak haters know they are better options .

NoLuv4Jerry said:

I feel the same way about Tyron Smith. Great Great player for a decent window. Then kind of getting by on reputation after that. If he gets in, it will be after a couple of tries. I think Zach Martin gets in, but again, without postseason success, will he get in first ballot?

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Post-season success (especially for positions that aren't stat based) isn't as important as you think. It can get you over the hump if your a fringe HOF player but if your a HOF'er on paper (accolades) then you don't need playoff success.

For example the only tackle on the all-decade team that received more votes then Tyron was Joe Thomas. Thomas will most likely be a first ballot player and he literally NEVER played in a single playoff game his entire career. Trent Williams whose a future hall of famer and is about to start his 13th NFL season has only played past the wildcard round once in his entire career.

Voters don't care. Thomas, Tyron, and Trent will all make the hall of fame even without post-season success. Combination of elite accolades and playing one of the 3 premier positions will get them in

NoLuv4Jerry said:

Love my Cowboys. Been a fan since the 70s. But there is a big window of Cowboys football that does not stand out to me as HOFish. I know people have wondered aloud if Romo should get consideration. I loved Romo. I think a lot of those 8-8 teams would have been 4-12 without him. But you cannot win 2 playoff games in your career and be a HOF QB. Witten was a great great player when Parcells was here. He was really good after Parcells left for a window. Then the rest I thought he was just a stat padder. Again, he will make the HOF due to sheer stats.

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Romo isn't a hall of famer on paper. There's no way you can look at his stats and and debate he's in.

He had hall of fame talent (which is fair) but he didn't play long enough. If he had continued playing a few more years he could of gotten in via the phillip rivers method (get enough balance of longevity and accolades to get in) or like I said earlier if your on the fringe then playoff success could get you over the hump (1 or 2 superbowls could of offset his lack of longevity and his lack of pro bowls/all-pro selections)

Tussinman said:

Post-season success (especially for positions that aren't stat based) isn't as important as you think. It can get you over the hump if your a fringe HOF player but if your a HOF'er on paper (accolades) then you don't need playoff success.

For example the only tackle on the all-decade team that received more votes then Tyron was Joe Thomas. Thomas will most likely be a first ballot player and he literally NEVER played in a single playoff game his entire career. Trent Williams whose a future hall of famer and is about to start his 13th NFL season has only played past the wildcard round once in his entire career.

Voters don't care. Thomas, Tyron, and Trent will all make the hall of fame even without post-season success. Combination of elite accolades and playing one of the 3 premier positions will get them in

Romo isn't a hall of famer on paper. There's no way you can look at his stats and and debate he's in.

He had hall of fame talent (which is fair) but he didn't play long enough. If he had continued playing a few more years he could of gotten in via the phillip rivers method (get enough balance of longevity and accolades to get in) or like I said earlier if your on the fringe then playoff success could get you over the hump (1 or 2 superbowls could of offset his lack of longevity and his lack of pro bowls/all-pro selections)

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Good discussion. So with the HOF lineman....did you at least have to block for a 1400+ yard rusher? Or protect a QB who threw for a significant amount of passing yards or TDs? If not, I can see why Deion feels the way he does.

What are your thoughts on Frank Gore? Ran for a bunch of yards. Proved his longevity at a physical position. So that is nothing to be dismissive of. But I don't think anyone game planned for him. I don't think he carried an offense. But he does have numbers.

At his worst, he's still a top 5 left tackle in the NFL.

NoLuv4Jerry said:

Good discussion. So with the HOF lineman....did you at least have to block for a 1400+ yard rusher? Or protect a QB who threw for a significant amount of passing yards or TDs? If not, I can see why Deion feels the way he does.

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For tackle if you have at least 2 out of the following 3 attributes then it would cover 95% of the tackles enshrined in the last 40 years
- At least 7x pro bowl
- All decade team selection
- At least 3x first team all-pro.

2 out of 3 of those and your pretty much a lock. Interior o-line is judged harsher (it's arguably tied for safety as hardest position to get in) so having at least 4 or 5 first team selections and/or at least 8+ pro bowls is pretty important ontop of the all decade selection

NoLuv4Jerry said:

What are your thoughts on Frank Gore? Ran for a bunch of yards. Proved his longevity at a physical position. So that is nothing to be dismissive of. But I don't think anyone game planned for him. I don't think he carried an offense. But he does have numbers.

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100% lock. Runningback is the one position that you have to over-rated longevity since it doesn't really exist. You can't really pad stats at a position that is literally impossible to pad stats (teams run you into the ground for 3 seasons and then spit you out).

Him getting the all-decade team 2 years ago helped tremendiously because up until then all he had was 5x pro bowl and a single 2nd team all-pro selection. The longest any of the top 10 all time rushers had to wait to get in was 3 years of being eligible so he should fall into that range (get in within 3 or 4 years)

starfan1 said:

Quite frankly it’s time to move on. Yes he was a bear but he holds the cowboys hostage unintentionally

We are a different team without him in the field and he misses too much time my guess is he misses 6 games or plays hurt and less effective in that many

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He doesn't hold anyone hostage. Cowboys have neglected to find his backup....that's not on Tyron. He's still on a friendly deal. I'd take him for 12 or 13 games a year at that salary.

acr731 said:

Where does he rank in number of games missed due to injury? Sean Lee was top 10, but I am curious where Tyron ranks.

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Tyron has missed 33 games in 11 seasons, 14 of those were in 2020. Terron Armstead has missed 48 games in 9 seasons. He signed an 87m contract, 43m guaranteed this off season. For reference, counting the 5 game suspension Lael Collins has missed 39 games in 7 seasons. Our fan base is a bunch of morons!

TheMarathonContinues said:

He doesn't hold anyone hostage. Cowboys have neglected to find his backup....that's not on Tyron. He's still on a friendly deal. I'd take him for 12 or 13 games a year at that salary.

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Well your right it’s not his fault but I’d just as soon find his replacement it really don’t matter about the deal it matters about the impact he has on the team when he misses his annual 3 to 5 games plus those he plays hurt . But your right that’s on leadership

You watch the impact when he goes down.

Reputation vote.

starfan1 said:

Well your right it’s not his fault but I’d just as soon find his replacement it really don’t matter about the deal it matters about the impact he has on the team when he misses his annual 3 to 5 games plus those he plays hurt . But your right that’s on leadership

You watch the impact when he goes down.

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I know his impact when he’s out but they should be good enough to win when he misses 2 or 3 games….