It's really hard cheering for Jerry Jones team

ESisback · Aug 17, 2022

ShortRound said:
Drama queen

Nausea, heartburn, upset stomach, diarrhea…

Big_D · Aug 17, 2022

SteveTheCowboy said:
So tell me what Jerry has done in the NFL since the Cowboys?

Building championship teams? If it's all him and only HE knew how to do it...certainly he should have a couple more. He flat out quit trying.

Wow...not giving the owner any credit for championships. That is a new level of hate I've not seen here...until you.

If he shown any competence whatsoever in 3 decades, then I would get your point. It’s not hate, hes been a complete disaster from day 1 after Jimmy’s departure. You crapping on the HC just to build up the owner is much better! Take any championship team in the history of the league.. How many fans are crying to make sure the owner gets his credit?

Hadenough · Aug 17, 2022

Runwildboys said:
And Jimmy has? Jimmy couldn't have built that team without Jerry's money and willingness to gamble.

Maybe that's why Jimmy left - because he no longer had intimate knowledge of the college players, so he lost confidence in his ability to keep the team a contender.

But without Jimmy the Cowboys don't win any of those SBs. But If Jimmy is hired by any other owner they may of win a SB. Jerry wanted to get all the credit and he lost it all.

Runwildboys · Aug 17, 2022

Big_D said:
If he shown any competence whatsoever in 3 decades, then I would get your point. It’s not hate, hes been a complete disaster from day 1 after Jimmy’s departure. You crapping on the HC just to build up the owner is much better! Take any championship team in the history of the league.. How many fans are crying to make sure the owner gets his credit?

Nobody's crapping on Jimmy. Elton John wouldn't be nearly as great without Bernie Taupin. That's not a knock on Elton, just a reality.

Runwildboys · Aug 17, 2022

Hadenough said:
But without Jimmy the Cowboys don't win any of those SBs. But If Jimmy is hired by any other owner they may of win a SB. Jerry wanted to get all the credit and he lost it all.

They did win one without Jimmy, and Jimmy won none without Jerry. I'm not trying to claim that Jerry was the mastermind behind it all, just that they needed each other. Maybe if another team had hired him, he would've won...but no other team did...Jerry did. It was their friendship and Jerry's wildcatter personality that brought Jimmy to the NFL.

DandyDon52 · Aug 17, 2022

Motorola said:
Charlotte - after her father departs this world - might become the force to convince her brother to relinquish all the strictly football operations to qualified people outside of their circle.

That is just hope, probably wont happen.

DallasEast said:
Cheer for the team.

Don't cheer for Jerry Jones.

DallasEast. Problem solver.

If you cheer for cowboys, especially in playoffs, your cheering for jones boys to be able to hold up another trophy and then gloat about it.
The team and the jones boys are a package deal. If your rooting for team your also rooting for jones boys.

lk8701 said:
Does he really deserve to win another Super Bowl? What he did to Jimmy Johnson was egregious and not putting him into the ROH is even more egregious. Plus there are so many incidences of degeneracy. Probably even more that hasn't come to light. Dak is a genuinely good guy so I try to ignore the Jerry component but it's really difficult.

No he doesnt, and I hope he doesnt luck into another ring.

The cowboys are just entertainment now, the org. is just a ghost of what it once was.

DandyDon52 · Aug 17, 2022

CouchCoach said:
Separate the two. Did you cheer for Clint Murchison's team or the Dallas Cowboys?

I had to separate the two or I would no longer be a fan. Did the same thing with the Mavs and Rangers.

And there is that little bonus with a loss that other fans do not get. We get to see his sour puss "bury him face down" face.

if you root for cowboys, you have to root for the jones boys too. it is a pkg deal.
I root for them during the season, but not the post season, as I dont want to see jerry hold up another trophy. He would also gloat big time about it for years.
He doesnt deserve another one. He might luck into one, but I am not really worried about it.

keep in mind how we root for or support, or watch the cowboys has nothing to do with outcome of games or seasons.
That is all up to jones boys, coaches, and players ! What we do is irrelevant to outcomes.

So enjoy the season , the games, and root how you want, outcomes will be decided by others.

SteveTheCowboy · Aug 17, 2022

Big_D said:
If he shown any competence whatsoever in 3 decades, then I would get your point. It’s not hate, hes been a complete disaster from day 1 after Jimmy’s departure. You crapping on the HC just to build up the owner is much better! Take any championship team in the history of the league.. How many fans are crying to make sure the owner gets his credit?

I didn't "crap on the HC". I give Jimmy a ton of credit....
How is me also giving the owner some credit crapping on hc?

You.....on the other hand....are taking a dump.

Fans give Kraft credit....even with a scandal.

I noticed you neglected to say what Jimmy did after Jerry. I suppose I don't blame you....but I would have admitted....he did nothing either....and in fact did just give up and fished instead.

Hadenough · Aug 17, 2022

Runwildboys said:
They did win one without Jimmy, and Jimmy won none without Jerry. I'm not trying to claim that Jerry was the mastermind behind it all, just that they needed each other. Maybe if another team had hired him, he would've won...but no other team did...Jerry did. It was their friendship and Jerry's wildcatter personality that brought Jimmy to the NFL.

That team that won with Switzer dropped off the face of the earth because it was a team that Jimmy built . Just because Jerry has money doesn't mean he built the team. That's like saying Jerry built his own stadium. No he didn't! He didn't sweat one drop of labor into it.

Shane612 · Aug 17, 2022

DallasEast said:
Okay. Let's sort through the dots.

Dot #1: Jones' status as owner, general manager, president. Establish 1989. Check.
Dot #2: Jones gets more credit if his team wins more. That happens throughout team sports since the creation of team sports. Check.
Dot #3: Jones has hogged microphones any time there has been a real or imagined negative slant against his franchise many times over the past 33 years. He's a narcissist. It's his thing. Check.

Dot #4...

A fan sits in the stadium. They cheer for a touchdown. It is not directed at Jones. Their cheer was directed at the running back carrying the ball. Or the receiver who caught the ball. Or whomever had possession of the ball and crossed the goal line.

Ditto for a fan sitting on their couch watching the game remotely. It is not directed at Jones also.

Four dots.

Three are squatting in left field of Choctaw Stadium.

One is sipping a tequila in the Bahamas.

An imaginary 1,300 mile line COULD connect all four but... why would it be necessary to create a made up connection that does not exist?

Is this an analogy that makes the assumption intangible cheering has a tangible causal effect? A fan buys a cap at AT&T stadium. The money for the cap ends up in Jones' mans purse. He does not know it is there but it IS there. Fan. Cash. Jones. That's a real connection that can seen and tracked.

Waitasec.

Is Jones imagining he is the one rushing and catching touchdowns and think fans cheering for him scoring? That would make sense. For him that is.

None of that matter.
Whether the cowboys win or the sports world talk about the cowboys, for whatever reason, it's all about Jerry, because he is the Owner-GM-President of the freak'n Dallas Cowboys, the most valued sports franchise in the world.
If he was just the GM, who cares when the owner or the president can fire him. Nope. Jerry is the judge, juror and the executioner of the Cowboys. He is immune to all bad things. Even if he wasn't...he doesn't care.

Established1971 · Aug 17, 2022

DallasEast said:
Cheer for the team.

Don't cheer for Jerry Jones.

DallasEast. Problem solver.

been a sports fan 50 years and have loads of ****** owners for my teams, I barely care

Vegas_Cowboy · Aug 17, 2022

CouchCoach said:
And there is that little bonus with a loss that other fans do not get. We get to see his sour puss "bury him face down" face.

That's how I felt 5 years ago. Now I'm at the point to where every time something bad happens DURING the game that I know will cause Jerry misery, I just laugh.

DallasEast · Aug 17, 2022

DandyDon52 said:
If you cheer for cowboys, especially in playoffs, your cheering for jones boys to be able to hold up another trophy and then gloat about it.
The team and the jones boys are a package deal. If your rooting for team your also rooting for jones boys.

Shane612 said:
None of that matter.
Whether the cowboys win or the sports world talk about the cowboys, for whatever reason, it's all about Jerry, because he is the Owner-GM-President of the freak'n Dallas Cowboys, the most valued sports franchise in the world.
If he was just the GM, who cares when the owner or the president can fire him. Nope. Jerry is the judge, juror and the executioner of the Cowboys. He is immune to all bad things. Even if he wasn't...he doesn't care.

ESisback · Aug 17, 2022

Personally, I’m not that far gone. THANK GOD!

I root for the Dallas Cowboys—the uniform, the players, the games, the tradition, all the memories, etc. But it’s not life or death—it’s a game, a hobby, something to enjoy, and all you overly serious, doom-n-gloomers can rant and rave and squeeze all the enjoyment out of a simple thing that you want. The ONLY thing your complaints and depression and denouncements affect is NOTHING, save your own level of enjoyment. But not me. I don’t care about Jerry Jones. I’m just gonna do my thing and enjoy the ride, no apologies, no inferiority complexes, no crying.

I CAN’T WAIT! I LOVE FOOTBALL! GO COWBOYS!

Shane612 · Aug 18, 2022

DallasEast said:

I'm not.

nobody · Aug 18, 2022

Runwildboys said:
They did win one without Jimmy, and Jimmy won none without Jerry. I'm not trying to claim that Jerry was the mastermind behind it all, just that they needed each other. Maybe if another team had hired him, he would've won...but no other team did...Jerry did. It was their friendship and Jerry's wildcatter personality that brought Jimmy to the NFL.

I also believe that Jerry asked Switzer who he should bring in and Switzer told him Johnson.

Runwildboys · Aug 18, 2022

nobody said:
I also believe that Jerry asked Switzer who he should bring in and Switzer told him Johnson.

That makes it even more of a gamble! :laugh:

Bullflop · Aug 18, 2022

Nobody's obliged to like Jerry to enjoy the Cowboys! The team, itself, is what you either enjoy following or not. I'm all for the team! :thumbup:

Bermystar12 · Aug 18, 2022

DallasEast said:
uh oh. the revolution is back in effect.

Off topic, but bro that Woman King looks SICK! It's on my list too!

SultanOfSix · Aug 18, 2022

Nah. The Dallas Cowboys were my team long before they were ever considered JJ's team. JJ may legally own the team because he was an oil tycoon in the 80s, but the NFL is a monopoly that has been granted an anti-trust exception due to its public nature by the US government, which the Constitution explicitly states is a government for the people, by the people.

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