Twitter: Cowboys talking numbers with Peters

Jason Peters

Peters with the Philadelphia Eagles in 2017
No. 71 – Dallas Cowboys
Position: Offensive tackle

There problem solved.

LittleD said:

The two sides are most likely playing "First to Blink" so a no deal is in the cards. Stephen wants only cheap so, no cheap no deal.

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I was thinking earlier this morning that Stephen seems to be one of those with somewhat of a toxic personality that doesn't appeal to others. Maybe Jason Peters is cool enough to be patient with him and come to a mutually acceptable agreement. I hope that's not asking for the moon, here!

Bullflop said:

I was thinking earlier this morning that Stephen seems to be one of those with somewhat of a toxic personality that doesn't appeal to others. Maybe Jason Peters is cool enough to be patient with him and come to a mutually acceptable agreement. I hope that's not asking for the moon, here!

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Knowing Stephen, if he wants much more that he earned with Chicago last year at age 39, there will be no deal. We've already seen what happens this
year with players over the age of 30 asking the Cowboys for big money. NADA!

LittleD said:

Knowing Stephen, if he wants much more that he earned with Chicago last year at age 39, there will be no deal. We've already seen what happens this
year with players over the age of 30 asking the Cowboys for big money. NADA!

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Simple. Two years, $4 million, $2 per year. Incentives for bonuses and escalators based on games played, wins, passing yards / rushing yard.

Waketzko to the short term IR for his shoulder.

It’s literally this simple. It’s a pay increase, he gets an extra year of security and can earn more $$$

Ring6 said:

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Looks like Tom Brady could be headed for a divorce because Giselle is ticked off at him for reneging on his promise to retire in Tampa.. That's why he took off 11 days in training camp, and reports on Friday are that Giselle took off for Costa Rica and left Tampa. For players who are older and much accomplished like Jason Peters, maybe he wants to spend the weekend talking with his family about whether or not he wants to continue to play. Accepting the Cowboys call, and driving in from east Texas to meet with them doesn't necessarily mean he's made a decision to play this year. You can investigate an opportunity without making a commitment to accept that opportunity.

It's not ALWAYS about the team not making a good faith effort. The player gets a say in his own career - especially at this stage of Peters' career. So, while I don't know if Peters will decide to play for the Cowboys, it is not surprising that he might want to take the weekend to make up his mind. The Cowboys talked money with him on Friday, so he knows what they are willing to pay him. Now, it's just a matter of him deciding if he wants to play for that amount, and (and this isn't necessarily a small consideration, considering he's a revered player in Philadelphia) if he wants to play for the Cowboys.

Another factor could be whether he's willing to play a back-up role, or if he'd rather be a starter. At this point in his life with the money he's already made, money is probably not the deciding factor. Peters is probably correct in thinking that if he waits for an injury on another team, instead of being the swing tackle in Dallas, he could be a starter somewhere else.

Finally, it has been reported (we don't necessarily know if this is true) that he wants to join a team with a viable chance to be the Super Bowl champion. If that is true, then he'll need to believe the Cowboys have a good chance to get there this year, since he's not going to be signing more than a one-year contract.

even if we sign Peters and I hope we do, shame on our front office for waiting. Anyone who follows the Cowboys knew we had a problem at OT months ago and a blind man knew we had a problem a few weeks ago. So if we sign a guy who isn’t even going to be ready to start the season it’s just unacceptable that we waited so long to admit how badly we screwed this whole thing up. Games are too precious to wait on these things

Jarntt said:

even if we sign Peters and I hope we do, shame on our front office for waiting. Anyone who follows the Cowboys knew we had a problem at OT months ago and a blind man knew we had a problem a few weeks ago. So if we sign a guy who isn’t even going to be ready to start the season it’s just unacceptable that we waited so long to admit how badly we screwed this whole thing up. Games are too precious to wait on these things

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The Cowboys knew that they had an issue at Offensive Tackle, which is why they've spent a 1st round pick, a 4th round pick and a 5th round pick on Offensive Tackles in the last 2 drafts. But they also had a healthy returning Left Tackle, and a guy starting at Right Tackle who has started 27 games in his first two years in the NFL. They didn't have a reason to panic. They just needed to develop the three guys they've drafted and hope the two returning starters stayed healthy. Unfortunately, Tyron Smith went down to injury, so they need one of the three guys they've recently drafted to start earlier than planned. Those are the breaks. But the Cowboys were prepared for Tyron Smith's injury.

Now they need a veteran to help their young roster, preferably a veteran who has played at a high level, and can be a mentor to the younger players, in addition to being able to still contribute on the field. That's what Jason Peters, a 9-time Pro Bowl player offers. But it is still up to Peters to decide if 1) he truly still wants to play, and 2) if he wants to be a starter (which means he'll probably wait for a different opportunity, since the Cowboys are committed to starting Tyler Smith at this point) and 3) if he wants to play for the long-time rival of a team where he gained the most glory of his career. It takes two to make a deal happen, and there is no guarantee that just because Peters visited the Cowboys and listened to their offer, that he is certain to take the offer. He doesn't need the money. It comes down to whether he wants the job or not - and not necessarily on whether the Cowboys are willing to offer him a reasonably-priced contract.

Jumbo075 said:

The Cowboys knew that they had an issue at Offensive Tackle, which is why they've spent a 1st round pick, a 4th round pick and a 5th round pick on Offensive Tackles in the last 2 drafts. But they also had a healthy returning Left Tackle, and a guy starting at Right Tackle who has started 27 games in his first two years in the NFL. They didn't have a reason to panic. They just needed to develop the three guys they've drafted and hope the two returning starters stayed healthy. Unfortunately, Tyron Smith went down to injury, so they need one of the three guys they've recently drafted to start earlier than planned. Those are the breaks. But the Cowboys were prepared for Tyron Smith's injury.

Now they need a veteran to help their young roster, preferably a veteran who has played at a high level, and can be a mentor to the younger players, in addition to being able to still contribute on the field. That's what Jason Peters, a 9-time Pro Bowl player offers. But it is still up to Peters to decide if 1) he truly still wants to play, and 2) if he wants to be a starter (which means he'll probably wait for a different opportunity, since the Cowboys are committed to starting Tyler Smith at this point) and 3) if he wants to play for the long-time rival of a team where he gained the most glory of his career. It takes two to make a deal happen, and there is no guarantee that just because Peters visited the Cowboys and listened to their offer, that he is certain to take the offer. He doesn't need the money. It comes down to whether he wants the job or not - and not necessarily on whether the Cowboys are willing to offer him a reasonably-priced contract.

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The Jones boys did try and do something; but as usual it was half assed and failed in most ways.
Its not such more their overall intent (though it is clear that money is more important than winning and attention is just as important to Jerry as anything else) but their ability which is LACKING.

Well that's not good if he's not ready to go week one or two. Two big games and he will not start ?

LittleD said:

Knowing Stephen, if he wants much more that he earned with Chicago last year at age 39, there will be no deal. We've already seen what happens this
year with players over the age of 30 asking the Cowboys for big money. NADA!

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SO the bucs were stupid to pick up a QB over 40?
Just like any absolute is really foolish so is your claim.
It has to be a case by case basis on risk vs reward

Bowdown27 said:

Well that's not good if he's not ready to go week one or two. Two big games and he will not start ?

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A certain team once went 0-2 and won the SB that year. Think about that.

Jumbo075 said:

Looks like Tom Brady could be headed for a divorce because Giselle is ticked off at him for reneging on his promise to retire in Tampa.. That's why he took off 11 days in training camp, and reports on Friday are that Giselle took off for Costa Rica and left Tampa. For players who are older and much accomplished like Jason Peters, maybe he wants to spend the weekend talking with his family about whether or not he wants to continue to play. Accepting the Cowboys call, and driving in from east Texas to meet with them doesn't necessarily mean he's made a decision to play this year. You can investigate an opportunity without making a commitment to accept that opportunity.

It's not ALWAYS about the team not making a good faith effort. The player gets a say in his own career - especially at this stage of Peters' career. So, while I don't know if Peters will decide to play for the Cowboys, it is not surprising that he might want to take the weekend to make up his mind. The Cowboys talked money with him on Friday, so he knows what they are willing to pay him. Now, it's just a matter of him deciding if he wants to play for that amount, and (and this isn't necessarily a small consideration, considering he's a revered player in Philadelphia) if he wants to play for the Cowboys.

Another factor could be whether he's willing to play a back-up role, or if he'd rather be a starter. At this point in his life with the money he's already made, money is probably not the deciding factor. Peters is probably correct in thinking that if he waits for an injury on another team, instead of being the swing tackle in Dallas, he could be a starter somewhere else.

Finally, it has been reported (we don't necessarily know if this is true) that he wants to join a team with a viable chance to be the Super Bowl champion. If that is true, then he'll need to believe the Cowboys have a good chance to get there this year, since he's not going to be signing more than a one-year contract.

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Peters has a ring; so that is not as big an incentive. But he does want to play on a team that can go somewhere. Which no one should blame him for.

As regards Brady, like so many other athletes over time when you have been at the top of your profession for so long its INCREDIBLY hard to walk away from.
I agree there is a good chance Gisele gave him an ultimatum; cannot blame her for that either. She has been pretty patient with him for a long time.

Jumbo075 said:

Looks like Tom Brady could be headed for a divorce because Giselle is ticked off at him for reneging on his promise to retire in Tampa.. That's why he took off 11 days in training camp, and reports on Friday are that Giselle took off for Costa Rica and left Tampa. For players who are older and much accomplished like Jason Peters, maybe he wants to spend the weekend talking with his family about whether or not he wants to continue to play. Accepting the Cowboys call, and driving in from east Texas to meet with them doesn't necessarily mean he's made a decision to play this year. You can investigate an opportunity without making a commitment to accept that opportunity.

It's not ALWAYS about the team not making a good faith effort. The player gets a say in his own career - especially at this stage of Peters' career. So, while I don't know if Peters will decide to play for the Cowboys, it is not surprising that he might want to take the weekend to make up his mind. The Cowboys talked money with him on Friday, so he knows what they are willing to pay him. Now, it's just a matter of him deciding if he wants to play for that amount, and (and this isn't necessarily a small consideration, considering he's a revered player in Philadelphia) if he wants to play for the Cowboys.

Another factor could be whether he's willing to play a back-up role, or if he'd rather be a starter. At this point in his life with the money he's already made, money is probably not the deciding factor. Peters is probably correct in thinking that if he waits for an injury on another team, instead of being the swing tackle in Dallas, he could be a starter somewhere else.

Finally, it has been reported (we don't necessarily know if this is true) that he wants to join a team with a viable chance to be the Super Bowl champion. If that is true, then he'll need to believe the Cowboys have a good chance to get there this year, since he's not going to be signing more than a one-year contract.

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Good take but IMO, dude doesn't make the trip across the state, spend two full days at the facility and doesn't go through getting a physical if he's not 100% committed to signing. Now, if all of this is being done via a video conference(s), your Tom Brady example/concern carries a lot more weight. Just my opinion, as mentioned earlier.

Bullflop said:

It ain't over 'til it's over, although Stephen has a way of failing to charm the pants off of his potential clients.

Let's hope this contract thing works out, anyway, OK? We need help desperately at LT, let's just face facts.

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After the Randy fiasco, I doubt Stephen's even in the DFW area at the moment... at least Daddy is able to charm people.

I think its done but some roster gymnastics are being done before they can announce it Tuesday. Monday being a holiday. He will be a cowboy.

Carson said:

Simple. Two years, $4 million, $2 per year. Incentives for bonuses and escalators based on games played, wins, passing yards / rushing yard.

Waketzko to the short term IR for his shoulder.

It’s literally this simple. It’s a pay increase, he gets an extra year of security and can earn more $$$

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It may be simple but that's a no-go from Stephen. One year for 2mil is max.

terra said:

The Jones boys did try and do something; but as usual it was half assed and failed in most ways.
Its not such more their overall intent (though it is clear that money is more important than winning and attention is just as important to Jerry as anything else) but their ability which is LACKING.

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You simply don't know that Tyler Smith won't prove to be a good replacement for Tyron Smith, and if I was named Jones, then I would ALSO want to know sooner than later if my recent 1st round pick can handle the job now. So, I don't think the Cowboys are half-assing it. What they ARE doing by talking to Peters is setting up a contingency plan just in case Tyler Smith is not yet ready. Signing a veteran backup before Tyron Smith was injured would just take playing and development time away from their recent draft picks. Signing one about two weeks after Tyron Smith went down, and before game 1 is a good plan.

Listen, the Cowboys gave Josh Ball a very long look at Left Tackle this preseason. That is ultimately a good thing for the Cowboys. Ball fell short, but the reality is he was injured all of last season, and this has really been his first chance to get in the huddle and develop. Personally, I think Ball did some good things this summer - even if he ultimately showed he's not ready. Waletzko also looked like a good pickup in the limited time he got due to being injured a large portion of time in training camp. But he is obviously not ready yet either.

Peters, if he gets signed, becomes the backup plan to Tyler Smith at Left Tackle. Zach Martin is the backup plan at right tackle. Ball and Walesko both get a year of practice to develop and hone their skills against what is looking to be a very stout defensive front being fielded by the Cowboys revamped defense. Hopefully, by mid-way through the year, both Ball and Walesko can make more strides to develop more, and the weekly competition in practice against a good defense will help them get ready for future roles - a future that may come as soon as later this season.

Teams NEED to develop players that are drafted in later rounds. Bringing in a veteran this past summer would have slowed that development. Bringing in a veteran now that Tyron Smith is out is a good plan, but it wouldn't have been a good plan this past summer if the goal is truly to develop your draft picks. Calm down and let things play out. We'll find out on September 11th where Tyler Smith is at in his development. More importantly, we'll find out how quickly he learns from his mistakes on September 18th against the Bengals. Young and inexperienced does not always equate to bad players or bad play.

It makes for a more interesting fan experience to watch how the young guys develop. And it is much more important that the Cowboys be hitting on all cylinders in December and January than in September. By that time, if the Cowboys let the youngsters play, they will no longer be inexperienced, which will accrue to the benefit of the Cowboys - even if they drop a couple of games to 2 of the last 4 Super Bowl teams during September.

While I’m all for it of course, been clamoring for this all offseason, it’s amazing the fluff about signing a 40 year old player!

LittleD said:

Knowing Stephen, if he wants much more that he earned with Chicago last year at age 39, there will be no deal. We've already seen what happens this
year with players over the age of 30 asking the Cowboys for big money. NADA!

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Stephen always appears to be having to prove something to Daddy...'look, Daddy, I got him to sign for aless than last year, look at how well I did'.
We go from Jerry with his inferiority complex with Jimmy to second generation, Stephen, with Daddy issues.
Surely Jerry's fathered someone with a football brain?

terra said:

SO the bucs were stupid to pick up a QB over 40?
Just like any absolute is really foolish so is your claim.
It has to be a case by case basis on risk vs reward

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Dude, you must know how Stephen operates by now. He loathes paying age to play for the Boys.