Getting Hendershot Involved Early Could Help

Pass2Run said:

It's about scheme, which some are apparently not grasping here.

Oh well.

The guy did it in college. And I suspect he can do it in the NFL.

I'm not saying he's Gronkowski.

But Hendershot is a potential threat, they just have to utilize him correctly.

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I like the guy, but I don't think you will see him going out for any passes.

Fans.

Straw meet grasp.

Captain-Crash said:

I like the guy, but I don't think you will see him going out for any passes.

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If they don't get their TEs more involved in the passing game, and have success there, there's not a lot more they can do with what they have.

Ideally, we want Gallup back this game.

With the limitations we have with Rush, I suspect they'll run more 12 and 13 sets.

It doesn't even have to be Hendershot, per se. That's just who I would roll with for this particular task.

If we keep throwing the ball short, like 5-7 yards downfield, and making Schultz the only TE read, then they shouldn't be in those sets in the first place because they're predictable from a defensive standpoint.

They're limiting themselves.. partly because they choose not to sign a QB. The other thing is there is no Cooper in this game, no Wilson ...

Keep in mind, I'm talking about balancing the offense rather than keying in on two guys, who the defense will also be keying in on. So why would it make sense to scheme around someone else? Derp, Because the defense is going to scheme around your best two proven players, or in this case, best 3 since Zeke will obviously lead the way this week, because we've already tipped our hand there.. So the best way to keep those players in the game, well, you use motions, shifts, draws, play-action, schemes, etcetera to get your other players invovled.

That's what good coaches do. That's what Moore was actually good at before he went vanilla..

Let me guess, you guys are counting on James Houston, Noah Brown again, yes?

I like Ferguson too.

Captain-Crash said:

I like Ferguson too.

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Either way.. You have to find a way to pass it for more than a few yards..

It's about knowing your scheme, and articulating where your players fit into that scheme, why and how, on any given play....

Why are you running a 12 if your TEs can't be a threat in the passing game?

In the NFL, for it to work for the reasons we want it to work, we have to get those guys involved..They have to key in on other players. Especially when the defense is keying in on our best players. That's how you keep your best players involved.

If you can manage to get Hendershot, or Ferguson, or even Shultz for that matter, active in the passing game, you can throw the defense off its game and it helps everyone.

I'm suggesting Hendershot because he can do it, he's smart enough to go where he needs to be and has a vertical game to him, in the right scheme. And they will be keying in more on Schultz....

exciter said:

St Brown had 9 and 7 receptions in Green Bay the last 2 seasons. I’d be surprised if Davis ran anything close to a 4.38 these days… his play never matched that speed when he did!

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I think he was talking about TE, not WR....

See the play at 1:30..... Look how they schemed that play. It isn't at all about 40 time.

There are others, too.

All this scheme talk.
Sounds like we need an OC for that.
If you have a good one, you can put in anybody.
Instead we have the same few plays that everybody knows are coming and we still think it’s a good idea to run them anyway.

Otis313 said:

All this scheme talk.
Sounds like we need an OC for that.
If you have a good one, you can put in anybody.
Instead we have the same few plays that everybody knows are coming and we still think it’s a good idea to run them anyway.

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You guys will say it was college scheme if I told you Hendershot had twice as many college yards as Schultz, and more than Fuguson... He had a 622-yard year in college, and there's a lot you can do with a player like that, even if he isn't blazing fast. That's why he did so much at Indiana.

He wasn't drafted because off-the-field stuff.

Scheme is everything. Guy is tall and plays his part well. We'll see eventually.
I agree. It's the same few plays. And that obviously isn't going to work. Teams can share info.

We have to change it up...

Guys have to step it up, take the lead...

I would like to see Ferguson, too. I just think for this game you need to gameplan with making it a point to get the ball to Hendershot and even Ferguson..

I get that Schultz is experienced, but we need him to take the pressure of the younger guys this game.

Pass2Run said:

I think he was talking about TE, not WR....

See the play at 1:30..... Look how they schemed that play. It isn't at all about 40 time.

There are others, too.

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There’s 71,000 college players in a given year… there’s 1695 good enough to play in the NFL. You can get away with being slow in college. NFL is a different animal. There’s a reason he was ranked the 27th TE in his class. He will always be limited… there’s just so much scheme can do for him!

exciter said:

St Brown had 9 and 7 receptions in Green Bay the last 2 seasons. I’d be surprised if Davis ran anything close to a 4.38 these days… his play never matched that speed when he did!

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Did you think I was serious?

Vernon Davis is 38.

St.Brown couldn't catch a cold in Green Bay.

By the way, now that xwalker mentions it, about the importance of 40 time..

Who wants to be that we actually see Parsons on the offense soon? In some way, shape, form or fashion, especially if we get on a losing streak.

xwalker said:

Did you think I was serious?

Vernon Davis is 38.

St.Brown couldn't catch a cold in Green Bay.

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I thought you were talking about converting him to TE, since he didn't make it at WR.

Anyway...

xwalker said:

Did you think I was serious?

Vernon Davis is 38.

St.Brown couldn't catch a cold in Green Bay.

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Lol, hard to tell sometimes… there’s some strange *** theories post here!

By the way, the Bengals defense isn't the Bucs....

I'm not saying Hendershot is Gentry. Just that his game is more suited to play vs. the Bengals. I doubt they even play Hendershot outside of special teams. But I would.. for a certain reason. Because he's your better guy on those deepter medium routes the Bengals seemed to have problems with.. and your QB.. probably won't even give you a chance, but if he does it will be because of the scheme.

Hendershot has hands, he's tough, savvy, and a pretty smart player. That's how he made the team. He also had more college production than any of our TEs...

Yah this post is a direct representation of this fan base lol. Good lord. Thanks for the laugh.

pupulehaole said:

Yah this post is a direct representation of this fan base lol. Good lord. Thanks for the laugh.

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What would you suggest they do that they haven't 'already done?

Besides the obvious, and running the ball with Zeke..

Let's hear it.

Pass2Run said:

What would you suggest they do that they haven't 'already done?

Besides the obvious, and running the ball with Zeke..

Let's hear it.

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You got me man. The 3rd string rookie TE is definitely the answer. Keep up the great work rofl.

exciter said:

There’s 71,000 college players in a given year… there’s 1695 good enough to play in the NFL. You can get away with being slow in college. NFL is a different animal. There’s a reason he was ranked the 27th TE in his class. He will always be limited… there’s just so much scheme can do for him!

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He's one of those guys who plays faster.

Not a popular idea, I see.

40 isn't the only measurement of speed. I can't see why people can't get over that.

I'm sticking to what I see. Hendershot is good.

And I'm also going to say the Bucs have an exceptionally good defense right now. But we'll see down the line how Hendershot fairs, and how they use him.

True, his 40 isn't fast. But he plays fast enough to be an NFL TE.

pupulehaole said:

You got me man. The 3rd string rookie TE is definitely the answer. Keep up the great work rofl.

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It was a question.

I said get him involved..

What would you suggest? I figured, though.

Par for the same cowardice our fanbase exhibits.

Just not much to their game. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's a terrible idea. But at least I had something different than all the bellyaching about Jerry, etc.

I'm sticking with it, though. Hendershot can be a threat on this team.

You win some, you lose some, eh?