The 4th down throw was behind Brown

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noshame said:
still beats patting the ball and getting sacked aye?

Seriously, you'll find those throws in Arron Rogers stats too...:facepalm:
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Of course you will.. but won't you find is people on PackersZone citing them as proof that he's "not accurate." Well I guess every fan base has it's village idiots.. so you might find a couple..
 
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RonnieT24 said:
What was arguably the biggest play in the game was really a late throw across the middle that Noah reached back and snatched out of the air.. Then the TD was high and outside and Brown had to climb the ladder a bit to go get it. Yet people have been downright giddy about how Rush "hit receivers in stride" and all that thinly veiled shots at Dak noise. If Dak makes that same throw to Brown all we would have heard was how if he woulda led him he would have had a chance to run after the catch. In reality throwing it behind was absolute the right ball placement because if he leads him Noah probably gets blown up by the safety and maybe even gets the ball dislodged and Cincy has the ball at our 40 yard line. It's probably a very different ballgame then.

The point of this is that you people talkin bout how well Rush threw the ball must have been getting a beer on the 5-6 near INTs he tossed. And why do I mention near INTs? Because people were beside themselves when Dak had a similar total of near misses in a game last season. And if I'm not mistaken we won that game too. This is not to disparage the game Rush had.. He had a nice game as a backup. He managed the game and didn't LOSE it. And made 5-6 throws when he absolutely had to in order to win it. I call that "Eli Manninging." I hope he does it 4-5 more times..
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I agree on the fourth down but I think the TD was spot on and Noah got his steps wrong and made it look awkward.
 
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buddahjoe445 said:
Ball was thrown through a tight window and in location it had to be in. Brown barely adjusted. On the TD catch, Brown missed timed his jump and thats why it looked weird. Thats an easy catch even my grandmother can make. In the gane against the Bucs, Dak should have had 4 INTs. The biggest difference I see in Rush and Dak is that Rush goes through his progression quickly and actually goes through his reads. Dak rarely gets off his first read and checks down too much. He leaves lots of meat on the field. So, is the problem Moore or Dak?
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Granny got some serious hops then..

 
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visionary said:
so the standard is the same for an allegedly “top 5” NFL QB starting for 6 years and a back up QB starting his second career game?

man you guys are really scratched bottom in your attempts to defend your hero Dak
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You waited until his 6th year to criticize? Ok

Still the point is that the critiques of any QB for a completion are unwarranted. Not sure how else to explain it.
 

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MountaineerCowboy said:
It seems to me these Dallas Prescott guys are looking for anything to convince themselves that Rush really stinks.

You know us winning that game Sunday is burning at them right now. Threads like this prove that I believe.

You should be happy with a win instead of making a whole thread based on 1 COMPLETED pass and coming up with conspiracy theories on top of it.

They wouldn't take this much time to try and discredit a Dak competition.

They're a clear agenda here and they're not even trying to hide it anymore.
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Tend to agree.

But honestly, let's be clear. Cooper Rush isn't the future here. If Dak isn't, I suspect most that are happy with the way Rush played also would admit that we have to go out and get a new QB.
 
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Brax said:
No I didn’t you did, it’s a poor Dak reply with a back handed praise of Rush to prop Dak. I don’t think and most don’t think Rush is a nfl starter but his performance was better than Daks with the same group that’s what’s disturbing and from a PS reject QB. I give Dak all the kudos for good games but that this conversation is going on shows the short comings of Dak. One would think it was Tad defending his brother. The point of the post is See Dak isn’t bad , and he missed by a mile by the comparison to a PS QB.
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The “I know you are, but what am I” defense?

All right.
 
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aikemirv said:
I agree on the fourth down but I think the TD was spot on and Noah got his steps wrong and made it look awkward.
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Yes Brown stumbled a bit trying to gather himself for the leap.. but the leap was absolutely necessary.. If he doesn't get up the ball hits a cameraman somewhere.




Mind you this was not a bad throw.. It just wasn't the dime people made it out to be. It was 6 inches from being incomplete.
 
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Sydla said:
Tend to agree.

But honestly, let's be clear. Cooper Rush isn't the future here. If Dak isn't, I suspect most that are happy with the way Rush played also would admit that we have to go out and get a new QB.
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Rush and Dak both are weak links when they're on the field in my opinion.

I believe we have a good enough defense right now, but not good enough to carry a team through the playoffs. We're still a good QB away from being a real contender. The right QB for this team is not currently on the roster.
 
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MountaineerCowboy said:
It seems to me these Dallas Prescott guys are looking for anything to convince themselves that Rush really stinks.

You know us winning that game Sunday is burning at them right now. Threads like this prove that I believe.

You should be happy with a win instead of making a whole thread based on 1 COMPLETED pass and coming up with conspiracy theories on top of it.

They wouldn't take this much time to try and discredit a Dak competition.

They're a clear agenda here and they're not even trying to hide it anymore.
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Geez.

Do you intentionally come up with ludicrous theories to ruin convos or do you actually believe this stuff you make up?
 
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Ken said:
Geez.

Do you intentionally come up with ludicrous theories to ruin convos or do you actually believe this stuff you make up?
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Ken, my dude, you bet me that Dak would have a better season than Mahomes.

You can't be taken seriously anymore. You put your creditability behind Dak and he has failed you.

It's time for a new account and a fresh start, bro.
 
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Pessimist_cowboy said:
Cool but if it was Dak it would have been behind brown and also to high. You’re just mad Dak sucks and 95% of the fan base can’t wait until that Poo is cut.
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If the OP is correct and Rush's throws were similarly wayward to that of Dak's then there must be a conspiracy theory amongst the receiving Corp....but then again there's ALWAY's an excuse.
The ball is in Dak's Court, the gauntlet is down and evidence that a below average QB can at least get this offense moving.
Let's hope Dak can rise to the challenge, for all our sakes
 
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MountaineerCowboy said:
Ken, my dude, you bet me that Dak would have a better season than Mahomes.

You can't be taken seriously anymore. You put your creditability behind Dak and he has failed you.

It's time for a new account and a fresh start, bro.
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Yes, he failed me bc he broke a finger on his throwing hand. :facepalm:
 
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buddahjoe445 said:
Ball was thrown through a tight window and in location it had to be in. Brown barely adjusted. On the TD catch, Brown missed timed his jump and thats why it looked weird. Thats an easy catch even my grandmother can make. In the gane against the Bucs, Dak should have had 4 INTs. The biggest difference I see in Rush and Dak is that Rush goes through his progression quickly and actually goes through his reads. Dak rarely gets off his first read and checks down too much. He leaves lots of meat on the field. So, is the problem Moore or Dak?
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Really?

So stopping and having to adjust back so much that you fall down is "barely adjusted?"

Brown sees the ball and has to gear down..



What I'd like to point out here is that the safety is 10 yards over the top so if Rush leads him Brown probably runs for another 20 yards.. Maybe even scores if he can shake the safety.





Instead the ball is behind and basically the contorting of the body is what makes the tackle.. Look where the safety is where Brown goes down..



It was a completed pass.. but it was not a great throw..
 
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TheMarathonContinues said:
When Dak was making 500k a year people complained about his completions lol.
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Because he is the starting QB. When you are the backup, you get more slack for mistakes and more praise for good plays. Just the way it is. Do I hold Dak to a higher standard than Rush? Yes, I do. He is taking a large portion of the cap and with that much money he should be making more plays, elevating the players around him, and winning the games. Is he better than Rush? Yes, no doubt. But the fact that we didn't look that much worse on Sunday is not exactly a ringing endorsement for Dak and his massive contract.
 
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CowboyoWales said:
If the OP is correct and Rush's throws were similarly wayward to that of Dak's then there must be a conspiracy theory amongst the receiving Corp....but then again there's ALWAY's an excuse.
The ball is in Dak's Court, the gauntlet is down and evidence that a below average QB can at least get this offense moving.
Let's hope Dak can rise to the challenge, for all our sakes
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No conspiracy dude.. Dak throws the ball harder .. Rush has led the offense to 20 ppg in his two starts.. Dak has had the offense averaging above 30 ppg over the last 15-20 games.. I won't bother to explain the math to you..
 
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Really?

So stopping and having to adjust back so much that you fall down is "barely adjusted?"

Brown sees the ball and has to gear down..



What I'd like to point out here is that the safety is 10 yards over the top so if Rush leads him Brown probably runs for another 20 yards.. Maybe even scores if he can shake the safety.





Instead the ball is behind and basically the contorting of the body is what makes the tackle.. Look where the safety is where Brown goes down..



It was a completed pass.. but it was not a great throw..
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A Cowboys fan is happy with a win.

A Dak fan does things like this.
 
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