The one move that hasn’t paid off this off-season

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817Gill said:
Holy heck it’s been 2 weeks guys. Gallup hasn’t even played yet.

You cannot make this claim now lol. Wait until the season is over before you analyze a trade/cut winner and loser. Shoot, takes a few more years than that but it’s clear patience is not a part of this forums culture lol.
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You do realize it takes a full year after ACL surgery to fully recover,we won't see the real Gallup til next year,not saying he will be terrible this year but to pin your hopes on a player after this kind of surgery is not realistic,imo
 
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birdwells1 said:
You keep having that opinion of Cooper while he keeps stacking 100 yard games with a backup qb.
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That's fine. Go follow Cooper and the Browns if it bothers you that much.

The Cowboys did what they were forced to do. Losing a few so called fans won't hurt them. Don't need ya. Bye.
 
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Whiskey Cowboy said:
Weak
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What's weak is you typing a whole novel talking about absolutely nothing and I needed less than 10 words for you to come up with lame response. Go write book man, nobody reading that bull****.

Go root for the Browns like I've told everyone else if you don't like what the Cowboys are doing and you love Cooper so much. You act like this dude is some difference. He's not, not even close.
 
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mldardy said:
What's weak is you typing a whole novel talking about absolutely nothing and I needed less than 10 words for you to come up with lame response.
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Your response added nothing to the conversation. It was weak and lazy.
 
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bigE79 said:
You do realize it takes a full year after ACL surgery to fully recover,we won't see the real Gallup til next year,not saying he will be terrible this year but to pin your hopes on a player after this kind of surgery is not realistic,imo
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Doesn’t change anything. If Gallup and Lamb are as good a pass catching combo as their past has suggested then moving on from Coop won’t be much of a big deal.

It’s not only about 2022, but the shape of the team moving forward. You weren’t gonna pay two 20M dollar WR’s. The hope is Gallup is a good WR2 at half the cost of Cooper and Lamb steps into the WR1 role and gets the big bucks.

I’m not saying that will happen but the plan wasn’t crazy. Cooper playing well has nothing to do with it, we didn’t trade him due to not being able to play well.

You can’t keep all three once they get off rookie deals and you can’t pay two number 1’s (poor roster management) so you have only two options. A) Cooper and Gallup or B) Lamb and Gallup. Team chose B and it’s not an illogical one. Lamb is younger and was drafted by them. Coop is good but you know his highs. Lamb has the upside to maybe be more so they bet on that.
 
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I think it came down to this: It was time to decide if they were going to keep Gallup. There’s no way the team was going to have both Gallup and Cooper signed to a large contract. Not with CeeDee Lamb in the WR corps as well.

And when they looked at how much of a team player Gallup was, how young he was, how hard he plays, his love of the game, and how he always leaves everything that he has out in the field… they couldn’t justify keeping Amari and letting Michael go somewhere else.

No flaw that Cooper has was really that big, but when the Cowboys weighed this decision, all of the little drawbacks simply tipped the scales in favor of Gallup. Cooper’s lack of passion for the sport, how he would not always go at 100 mph, how he seemed to play different at the beginning of his time with a team than at the end. He would disappear in road games sometimes and often wouldn’t practice because of this or that ailing him.

Then, after taking all of that into consideration, you add in that Gallup is younger, will cost less and that the whole team absolutely loves Gallup… there just wasn’t any way they were going to watch Michael get signed by another team while a guy they like less and costs more was sitting in their roster. Period.

All teams have to make difficult decisions because of the salary cap, and this is one Dallas had to make at a position that they had really good players at. Fans have been saying, spend less at the skill positions and spend more in the trenches and at less glamorous positions. Well, that’s exactly what they did with Cooper and Gallup. They made a decision, kept the better player in their opinion, and let Cooper go.

They simply weren’t going to let Gallup leave and keep Coop. It is a decision that I wholeheartedly agree with.

And yes, it is a shame that Amari was making so much money that nobody would trade much while taking on his contract, but that’s what happened.
 
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D4KADON said:
Getting rid of Collins-awesome

whiffing on Gregory-We are one of the top sacking teams in the nfl

Trading Cooper-single handily the worst decision of this year. Amari Cooper had too much value to get rid of and for what we gave him up for. If the rumors are true that he and Dak had a falling out and we caved in, we are so stupid to do so

all in all, I miss Amari Cooper
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It was addition by subtraction. He wasn’t a good influence on the young receivers or the locker room. No fire, no passion.
 
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mldardy said:
Why don't you people go and root for the Browns. My goodness who cares about Cooper. You act like this guy was some difference while he was here. We went no where with Cooper.
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Lmao. Cooper came in here and legitimately turned the season around in 2018. We were 3-4 and dead in the water and he came and we turned it around to the tune of a division title and a divisional round appearance. He made guys like Gallup and Lamb look much better than they are. Same for Cedric Wilson. Cooper is a legit #1 guy. The others we have aren't.

Trading Cooper for nothing is easily the worst move this front office has made in a decade. And that's saying a lot seeing as we drafted Taco over Watt and taking Jaylon Smith with a high 2nd round pick.
 
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AsthmaField said:
I think it came down to this: It was time to decide if they were going to keep Gallup. There’s no way the team was going to have both Gallup and Cooper signed to a large contract. Not with CeeDee Lamb in the WR corps as well.

And when they looked at how much of a team player Gallup was, how young he was, how hard he plays, his love of the game, and how he always leaves everything that he has out in the field… they couldn’t justify keeping Amari and letting Michael go somewhere else.

No flaw that Cooper has was really that big, but when the Cowboys weighed this decision, all of the little drawbacks simply tipped the scales in favor of Gallup. Cooper’s lack of passion for the sport, how he would not always go at 100 mph, how he seemed to play different at the beginning of his time with a team than at the end. He would disappear in road games sometimes and often wouldn’t practice because of this or that ailing him.

Then, after taking all of that into consideration, you add in that Gallup is younger, will cost less and that the whole team absolutely loves Gallup… there just wasn’t any way they were going to watch Michael get signed by another team while a guy they like less and costs more was sitting in their roster. Period.

All teams have to make difficult decisions because of the salary cap, and this is one Dallas had to make at a position that they had really good players at. Fans have been saying, spend less at the skill positions and spend more in the trenches and at less glamorous positions. Well, that’s exactly what they did with Cooper and Gallup. They made a decision, kept the better player in their opinion, and let Cooper go.

They simply weren’t going to let Gallup leave and keep Coop. It is a decision that I wholeheartedly agree with.

And yes, it is a shame that Amari was making so much money that nobody would trade much while taking on his contract, but that’s what happened.
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Gallup is nothing more than a Laurent Robinson 2.0. A guy who looks good because of another legit #1 WR taking the attention where he can run free. Gallup without Cooper will be nothing. You can legit find a Gallup on any team. You can't find a Cooper on every team. One influences everyone on the field and defenses are scared of. The other is the opposite. He scares no one.

Gallup and Lamb will be 100% exposed for being #3 talent WRs without Cooper.
 
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D4KADON said:
Getting rid of Collins-awesome

whiffing on Gregory-We are one of the top sacking teams in the nfl

Trading Cooper-single handily the worst decision of this year. Amari Cooper had too much value to get rid of and for what we gave him up for. If the rumors are true that he and Dak had a falling out and we caved in, we are so stupid to do so

all in all, I miss Amari Cooper
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Yeah I was a Cooper fan boy and I was really pissed when the trade went through. Everything about it was amateur. They publicly disrespected him and then tried to trade him. I didn't want him gone then to get nothing for him was a joke. That is the one offseason move that will.come back to bite us.
 
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WillieBeamen said:
The mistake was not getting more than a 5th rounder


Dak Prescott is a WR killer. Amari’s last 100 game with Dak was week 1 against the Bucs. He already has more 100yd games with Brissett in only 3 games.
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Is Brissett an elite quarterback? Front office has it figured out two years after the Dak contract was signed, I think. Maybe I am giving the Cowboys FO to much credit.
 
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plymkr said:
Yeah I was a Cooper fan boy and I was really pissed when the trade went through. Everything about it was amateur. They publicly disrespected him and then tried to trade him. I didn't want him gone then to get nothing for him was a joke. That is the one offseason move that will.come back to bite us.
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It already has. Cee Dee is not a #1 wide receiver.
 
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Blackspider214 said:
Gallup is nothing more than a Laurent Robinson 2.0. A guy who looks good because of another legit #1 WR taking the attention where he can run free. Gallup without Cooper will be nothing. You can legit find a Gallup on any team. You can't find a Cooper on every team. One influences everyone on the field and defenses are scared of. The other is the opposite. He scares no one.

Gallup and Lamb will be 100% exposed for being #3 talent WRs without Cooper.
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That is your opinion and not one that I share.

We will find out soon enough, I suppose.
 
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20 mil for a receiver that has 2 more receptions than Noah Brown? I'll pass.
 
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