CFZ Sturm was dead wrong about Dak Prescott

Section446 said:

He's had 6 full years, about to 7. How much more time does he need to establish his "legacy"? His legacy is already set, he's a below-average QB that needs elite talent around him to have success.

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khiladi said:

No, this has always been the case. That’s why even in his worst years, like 2017, he was still the highest-rated QB against the blitz. I’ve says before this stat is deceptive, because teams blitz for a variety of reasons, including their inability to generate pressure, do they risk exposing their backfield. Against guys like Hurts, Quinn was bringing the pressure, while having his DBs play aggressive man. On the other hand, with Herbert he has his DBs play playing way off and heavy zone. This is why even mediocre QBs low Heineke with the Football Team was one of the best QBs against the blitz last year. Against Romo, teams would just drop back in cover 2 and Jason Garrett couldn’t field a rushing game to save his life, so defenses weren’t worried about the threat of a run game until we lucked into Callahan. So teams didn’t have to bring many rushers and even when they did, Garrett’s passing game, coupled with Houck being past his prime, there would be extra rushers running free path to Garrett. JG showed his “skill” in that department once against in NY with the Giants.

In 2018, there were articles like this:

https://sportdfw.com/2018/10/24/dallas-cowboys-zone-coverage-is-daks-kryptonite/amp/

The following article demonstrates how Amari made Dak’s numbers sky-rocket against man, but he still sucked against zone. And the week they played the Colts he went heavy cover 2, the Cowboys got shut out. Amari’s numbers took a nose dive, because Dak couldn’t get him the ball.

https://www.sportsinfosolutions.com...-amari-cooper-face-challenge-with-colts-zone/

This year everybody has finally been in on the action:

https://sportdfw.com/2022/06/20/toughest-coverages-cowboys-dak-prescott/amp/






Of course this guy tries to make excuses that it was in part the OL, but that’s not the trend with Dak, but we saw how that worked the first game of this season, followed by how Rush looked behind the same OL. Dak in particular looked horrible when defenses started disguising the coverages in the single-high safety looks, showing pressure but backing off.

He’s just horrible at processing the field.

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Ken said:

Holy...the leaps of logic are astounding in the twisted world of Dak hate.

So, you expect me to believe, that Dak being one of the best qbs against the blitz in the entire league, is somehow a negative? Isn't that reading a defense bud?

All i have heard is that he can't? Can you guys make up your minds?

You do know that the qbs (usually young qbs but it extends to useless qbs like Wentz) are the ones who see the incessant blitzing right? You also understand that the great ones carve up the blitzes, right?

You and your cohorts and Sturm are all delusional.

Sorry.

There are also obvious reasons why we struggled vs the loose coverages and some of it is Dak but MOST of it is other reasons which I will not waste my breath on here but I have gone over ad nauseum.

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Nav22 said:

You people are obsessed.


Dak played like garbage in Week 1. He’s been a good QB for most of his career. We’ll see how he responds when he gets healthy.

In the meantime, go Cooper Rush and go Cowboys!

That’s literally all there is to it.

Keep up the cult-ish behavior though. Your anti-Dak crusade depends on it!!!!!!!

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FanofJerry said:

So it seems like Moore needs to step up and instruct Dak on how to beat these zone defenses. I assume if message board scouts have known for 6+ years that Dak is trash in zone...that Kellen Moore has known for a while. If Kellen is not good enough to fix Dak...and the issue is detrimental to offensive success...Cowboys need to explore trading Dak if possible.

Seems like thats the only winning scenario if all of Daks supposed issues are true.

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Nav22 said:

You people are obsessed.


Dak played like garbage in Week 1. He’s been a good QB for most of his career. We’ll see how he responds when he gets healthy.

In the meantime, go Cooper Rush and go Cowboys!

That’s literally all there is to it.

Keep up the cult-ish behavior though. Your anti-Dak crusade depends on it!!!!!!!

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Aerolithe_Lion said:

You really made that bet? I’m not a Dak hater I also believe he’s a top 10 QB but what On earth were you thinking?

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Whyjerry said:

3 things Dak haters fail to grasp...

1. He is not Patrick Mahomes and that is ok. Few in history come close to his talent. Dak is still a good QB that can win but needs help some times.

2. Kellen Moore sucks. So what he did well last week the majority of games he sucks. Particularly against good defenses. Terrible red zone decisions. Abandons the run constantly. Predictable. He sucks. That hurts Dak.

3. The culture in Dallas sucks and they are hamstrung by terrible FO decisions. You Dak haters might not have been paying attention so let me help out. How does this WR group look to start the season?Lamb a number 1? Noah Brown your best receiver now? Gave Cooper away for nothing. Paid a lazy malcontent the highest contract ever given to a RB. Now he runs like he is in quicksand. Still the contract means he has to play limiting the best back to 10/12 touches a game. How’s that helping the offense. The OL has sucked the last 3 years. Little better to start this season but Dak has been under siege the last couple years. Meanwhile we maintain a bunch of room on the salary cap so no urgency to fix glaring problems.

The Dak haters need help.

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shabazz said:

…….you could have saved all that typing by simply saying, “ it’s everybody’s fault but Dakotas”

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khiladi said:

In the Athletic, Sturm wrote an article entitled, “Cowboys QB Dak Prescott is 29, It is Time to Win.” Since we can’t post from that magazine as per the filter on this forum, I suggest you Google it and read it. The reality is Sturm has been the typical fanboy of Dak and he often took jabs at Romo at Dak’s expense. But even Sturm can’t make excuses anymore for Dak.

Sturm has been holding on for years the notion that Dak has been getting harshly criticized because Romo fans, since their boy Romk got the blame, they would make sure Dak got it worse, which is a crock of garbage, as the excuses for Romo were legitimate, while the excuses for Dak were not. In the August 12th article in the Athletic Sturm basically says Dak is 29 and he no longer has excuses.

The main point I want to emphasize, and it’s clear to anybody reading it, what “the haters” were saying is true and that “teams figured the offense out”, though in reality is was, Dak is quite possibly the most over-rated player in NFL history. Sturm points out in weeks 1 to 8, Dallas was the most blitzed team in the league. After that, teams stopped bringing the pressure and Dak didn’t see the man coverage looks regularly, and the offense took a nosedive. They were the 22nd most blitzed team after week 8 when all was said and done. Dallas offense saw just as much cover 2 and cover 3 defenses as any other team from then on. The 49ers played zone defense as a staple and could get pressure without bringing extra rushers and we all know how bad Dak looked. If it weren’t for JG almost giving them the game with one of his typical awful INTs he is known for that essentially gave Dallas the ball in scoring position the game would have been a complete blowout. Even Sturm admits the wins in the last half of the season were against bums and Eagles junior varsity team and were empty calories, per how on words.

Facts are we’ve been saying Dak sucks against zone coverage, to the point he becomes a mediocrity. What masked his warts against zone is his lack of risk-taking so he resorts to short dump offs and check-downs which use to keep the INTs down. He’s “mentally weak” as a QB. He’s been getting away with it, because teams were forced to bring pressure because of how good the OL and RG were. I was saying I don’t even know why defenses do it do much even during those days, because the data was always there. Dak is horrible at anticipating his WRs getting open and can’t process the whole field. He goes into a shell against and takes the check-down. Teams use to give way too much respect to the OL and RG to the point they made it much easier for Dak to look better than he actually was with all the explosive talent he has around him.

What do people expect Moore to do? Sturm even admitted it’s the same trend with Dak with each year, including blaming the coaches. He said what we said, which is the same red zone issues pop up and his performance of third down is abysmal. He also basically said the “young and developing QB” excuse no longer holds.

I mean yeah, this owner is dysfunctional and nothing signals dysfunction more than making Dak your franchise QB. So we can admit that Jerry Jones is a buffoon, but we can also admit Dak exemplifies the buffoonery of Jerry. We can also admit that Sturm was dead wrong about his boy Dak Prescott.

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Captain-Crash said:

hum don't remember throwing them out. but oh well.
Stafford is better and they are no difference between Cousins and dak. Except for Cousins played behind a worse offensive line in Washington. shrugs

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GINeric said:

He loss me at Dak is the most overrated player in NFL history.... not RG3 who was paid for with 3 first round picks, JaMarcus Russell, Tony Mandarich,Gino Toretta, and countless other FIRST rounds players, quarterbacks and non quarterbacks..... but Dak is huh.... ok.

Someone here please tell me when they've ever heard of a 4th round pick being more overrated than first overall selected draft busts.....

Can anybody give me a name of a lower round player who was considered more overrated than any first round, overall 1 through 5 picks in NFL history..... let's just start there.

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GINeric said:

Many here said that very good quarterbacks suppose to elevate the players around them. So that's no excuse, his play should have masked the offensive line's flaws. Cousins was let go and not resigned because he was not the answer in Washington.

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Captain-Crash said:

I miss the days when you could just read a post about how dak is better than Mahomes, Rodgers, and every quarterback in the league.

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DOUBLE WING said:

The season doesn't end after Week 1 - you're aware, correct?

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