We Have Won Only 6 Games With Less Than 100 Yards Rushing With Dak As Starting QB Since 2016

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phildadon86

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not as simple as that. it’s specific to the 100 yd rushing metric and i was curious, but didn’t want to go and look at 6 years of box scores
I already did. And just based on last season alone 85-90 percent of the time a team had a 100 yards of rushing that team won.

The OP seems to have forgotten we went down this road already and the math was already done for him. This is yet another lets bash the QB thread disguised as a "i swear its not a bash the QB thread"
 

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Its another "must have" for the starter in order to achieve success. The funny stuff is the crowd who thinks otherwise.

At this point, they've become just multiple igs and scroll pasts unless I want a laugh at their excuses.
 

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not as simple as that. it’s specific to the 100 yd rushing metric and i was curious, but didn’t want to go and look at 6 years of box scores
Actually just take our overall record . Then subtract the ones we lost we didnt rush for 100 yards. Reality provided our records .
 

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Its another "must have" for the starter in order to achieve success. The funny stuff is the crowd who thinks otherwise.

At this point, they've become just multiple igs and scroll pasts unless I want a laugh at their excuses.
You really should so some research.

Go look at all of the QBs in the league and let me know how many of them lost games when the rushing total wasnt over 100 yards.

Hint. Most of them lose when that doesnt happen. It isnt just a Dak thing. Its an NFL thing.
 

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Its another "must have" for the starter in order to achieve success. The funny stuff is the crowd who thinks otherwise.

At this point, they've become just multiple igs and scroll pasts unless I want a laugh at their excuses.


who’s said this in here? where?
 

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Actually just take our overall record . Then subtract the ones we lost we didnt rush for 100 yards. Reality provided our records .

bro, i know how lol. i asked (and was answered) initially because i didn’t want to do the research in the moment
 

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That is why I mention you got to throw on 1st down from time to time. If Defense know every 1st down you will run the ball you start finding yourself in long situation. People love to say they knew what we were doing? lol if all you do is run on 1st down how is that any different. Teams stack line on 1st drop in to nickle coverage or bring pressure on 3rd down. Those quick throws to Lamb that so many complain about, if they are picking up 3 or 4 yards leaving you 2nd and 6 that is a good play keeping you in a situation where defense does not know if pass or run is coming.
Yup. Gotta have a balanced attack and take what the D gives you sometimes. Not hanging on to the ball too long helps, especially against better Dines.
 

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You really should so some research.

Go look at all of the QBs in the league and let me know how many of them lost games when the rushing total wasnt over 100 yards.

Hint. Most of them lose when that doesnt happen. It isnt just a Dak thing. Its an NFL thing.
Justin Herbert already has led his team to more wins having less than 100 rushing yards of support than Dak.

So has....

Mahomes, Josh Allen (Josh Allen lead his team to 7 wins in 2020 alone without 100 yards of rushing support), Joe Burrow (Did it 6 times last year and already once this season), Matt Stafford did it 3 straight games in a row in the playoffs from the divisional round to the Super Bowl.

Those are just a few that I decided to look up.

When you have an actual great QB you don't have to rely on your run game. It's a problem for the Cowboys right now.
 

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If my research is not correct, and if not somebody will surely point it out, then please correct me if I am wrong here.

But, according to PFR Week 11 of 2019 against the 3-6-1 Detroit Lions is the last time we won a game with less than 100 rushing yards with Dak at QB.

Andy Dalton lead us to victory in Week 15 of 2020 with under 100 yards of rushing support.

Cooper Rush lead us to victory in his lone start against the Vikings in 2021 without 100 rushing yards of support.

When/If Dak comes back it is absolutely necessary that we continue to keep the rush game going and balanced if we want to win games and be successful more consistently. We cannot give up on the run quickly and we must limit the ability for Dak to audible out of plays so much if we want to have success. There NEEDS to be a balance and that needs to come from both the play calling and Dak sticking to the runs instead of audibling out of them as he has been known to do.
Nice research and interesting statistics.
It is nice to have a balanced attack again.
Reminds me of the early 90's teams.
 

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Yeah.

It's not pretty.

The 0-6 with Dak last year stands out like a sore thumb.
Ya it was clearly Dak's fault vs Tampa.

It was also his fault losing in OT vs the Raiders. I know...he shouldn't have 3 and outed in OT.


He should have got the ball back vs AZ too....Dak's fault that we let the Cards run out the last 4 minutes.


I mean, it is a cute stat. It really is. A team that prides itself on being a running team, when they are stopped, we are not as good. Who would have figured?

Some of those games are on Dak, but a lot of them have a lot of other reasons for the L's. It isn't like in 2020 because we beat the damn lions we were good when we didn't run the ball...lol.
 

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If my research is not correct, and if not somebody will surely point it out, then please correct me if I am wrong here.

But, according to PFR Week 11 of 2019 against the 3-6-1 Detroit Lions is the last time we won a game with less than 100 rushing yards with Dak at QB.

Andy Dalton lead us to victory in Week 15 of 2020 with under 100 yards of rushing support.

Cooper Rush lead us to victory in his lone start against the Vikings in 2021 without 100 rushing yards of support.

When/If Dak comes back it is absolutely necessary that we continue to keep the rush game going and balanced if we want to win games and be successful more consistently. We cannot give up on the run quickly and we must limit the ability for Dak to audible out of plays so much if we want to have success. There NEEDS to be a balance and that needs to come from both the play calling and Dak sticking to the runs instead of audibling out of them as he has been known to do.

Your offense is not performing well when you average less than 100 yards for an entire game. That would be bottom third in the league. For reference, only 9 teams last year averaged less than 100 yards rushing per game.

No team aside from one's with Tom Brady routinely win with less than 100 yards. He's always used a short passing game instead of running.

This is not about Dak. It is this way for everyone.
 

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Justin Herbert already has led his team to more wins having less than 100 rushing yards of support than Dak.

So has....

Mahomes, Josh Allen (Josh Allen lead his team to 7 wins in 2020 alone without 100 yards of rushing support), Joe Burrow (Did it 6 times last year and already once this season), Matt Stafford did it 3 straight games in a row in the playoffs from the divisional round to the Super Bowl.

Those are just a few that I decided to look up.

When you have an actual great QB you don't have to rely on your run game. It's a problem for the Cowboys right now.
LOL. Sure thing.

3 of those 4 QBs you just listed have to 10 defenses that also scored points for the team.

Football isn't A QUARTERBACK ONLY LEAGUE!. Enough already man. All i have been seeing since Dak went down is thread after thread from you about Cooper Rush and all the great things he is doing. Which he is. Not taking anything away from him.

Last season. Weeks 1-7. Not ONE thread from you was started about Dak. Interesting.

Football is a TEAM sport. Josh Allen also threw a game winning pass into the ground on 4th down last week. He isnt why they lost the game. But if that was Dak. I guarantee you start a thread about it.
 

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Your offense is not performing well when you average less than 100 yards for an entire game. That would be bottom third in the league. For reference, only 9 teams last year averaged less than 100 yards rushing per game.

No team aside from one's with Tom Brady routinely win with less than 100 yards. He's always used a short passing game instead of running.

This is not about Dak. It is this way for everyone.
I posted a few QBs that are younger than Dak that many of you believe Dak is on the same level as that have already led their teams to more wins without 100 yards of rushing support than Dak has in significantly less games played.

I understand that QBs aren't going to be great like this, but only SIX in 6+ season is embarrassing.
 

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LOL. Sure thing.

3 of those 4 QBs you just listed have to 10 defenses that also scored points for the team.

Football isn't A QUARTERBACK ONLY LEAGUE!. Enough already man. All i have been seeing since Dak went down is thread after thread from you about Cooper Rush and all the great things he is doing. Which he is. Not taking anything away from him.

Last season. Weeks 1-7. Not ONE thread from you was started about Dak. Interesting.

Football is a TEAM sport. Josh Allen also threw a game winning pass into the ground on 4th down last week. He isnt why they lost the game. But if that was Dak. I guarantee you start a thread about it.
Nothing you said changes the fact that its only SIX wins in 6+ years.

Basically, when Dak is your QB, if you don't get 100 yards rushing you're losing the game.

You should demand better than that instead of making excuses for him.
 

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I posted a few QBs that are younger than Dak that many of you believe Dak is on the same level as that have already led their teams to more wins without 100 yards of rushing support than Dak has in significantly less games played.

I understand that QBs aren't going to be great like this, but only SIX in 6+ season is embarrassing.
What's embarrassing is yet again you are using this statistic that you got absolutely obliterated for using in the past again.

You named 4 QBs that are younger? 3 of the 4 have top ten defenses.

3 quarters of the league lose games when the team doesn't rush for over 100. 93 percent of teams win games when they rush for 100 yards.

And i bet you there are worse QB statistics than Dak for teams that don't rush for 100.
 

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Nothing you said changes the fact that its only SIX wins in 6+ years.

Basically, when Dak is your QB, if you don't get 100 yards rushing you're losing the game.

You should demand better than that instead of making excuses for him.
Its not an excuse. You are just being obtuse.

Basically when 27 other quarterbacks are your QB if you dont get 100 yards rushing. You lose the game.

That is what you are missing. Or refusing to accept.

Josh Allen didnt "lead his team to victory last week" and missed a game winning TD. Again. If that were Dak. You would start a thread on it.

Although we wouldnt be able to see that you did because you hide your post history.
 

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Its not an excuse. You are just being obtuse.

Basically when 27 other quarterbacks are your QB if you dont get 100 yards rushing. You lose the game.

That is what you are missing. Or refusing to accept.
I just don't see how you can defend 6 wins in 6 plus years.

Dak NEEDS a great run.

Again, if Dak is your QB and you don't get 100 yards rushing you're going to lose the game. You don't think that about the actual top QBs in the NFL.

There's nothing wrong with seeing that Dak needs more help than others. The problem arise when you guys want to put him on the same level as the actual great QBs in the league.
 
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