Does Rush read defenses and see the field better than Dak?

FTWayne said:

I think Rush sees the field better and has better pocket awareness. That makes it look easier.

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I don't....he'd be playing somewhere and not a career backup....he played well at Minny last year and no one picked him up when we waived him. He's done a great job running a simplified offense against some suspect teams and with a great defense. I give him credit.....

Ranching said:

I don't....he'd be playing somewhere and not a career backup....he played well at Minny last year and no one picked him up when we waived him. He's done a great job running a simplified offense against some suspect teams and with a great defense. I give him credit.....

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Because he has one of the weakest arms in the NFL. That's why he's not playing somewhere. That has nothing to do w/ whether he has the head for the game. Ken Dorsey clone.

kskboys said:

That is a subject of conjecture. I don't think the O has changed at all. Different QB's, different reads.

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It's changed....not hard to see if you look at the schemes and play calling and not just follow the ball. But, to each his own. Salud.

kskboys said:

Because he has one of the weakest arms in the NFL. That's why he's not playing somewhere. That has nothing to do w/ whether he has the head for the game. Ken Dorsey clone.

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You have to get the ball out quick when you have a weak arm....that explains a lot.

Ranching said:

It's changed....not hard to see if you look at the schemes and play calling and not just follow the ball. But, to each his own. Salud.

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It's also really not hard to see that Rush is handling the QB duties completely differently than Dak. And it's also not hard to see that the schemes are the same, but the reads at the LOS by the QB are different.

I have no idea what Salud means, but Salud!!!!

Ranching said:

You have to get the ball out quick when you have a weak arm....that explains a lot.

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Absolutely true.

kskboys said:

It's also really not hard to see that Rush is handling the QB duties completely differently than Dak. And it's also not hard to see that the schemes are the same, but the reads at the LOS by the QB are different.

I have no idea what Salud means, but Salud!!!!

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Spanish for Cheers

The title post is a rhetorical question,right?

Ranching said:

Spanish for Cheers

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Ah!!! I like it!!!!!

Just want to mention that I'm really enjoying the back and forth this morning w/o the insults. Quite enjoyable and educational.

kskboys said:

Because he has one of the weakest arms in the NFL. That's why he's not playing somewhere. That has nothing to do w/ whether he has the head for the game. Ken Dorsey clone.

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True.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cooper-rush/32005255-5304-6607-6ca0-6d97a0d0f253

Simple. Rush is only given approximately 2-3 targets to progress through. Dak is given more with additional TEs.

Ken said:

How, pray tell, does he have the 6th highest Rating in NFL history if this is true?

He must be the luckiest player in the history of the nfl then, if what you say is true.

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This is a common talking point that is just completely wrong. But, whatever trashes Dak I guess. You would think that most would just be happy that we're still winning games for now.

Whirlwin said:

It’s easy to draw a flag when the ball is Underthrown. I’m positive he doesn’t do it on purpose

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Dak under throws a bunch

kskboys said:

That is a subject of conjecture. I don't think the O has changed at all. Different QB's, different reads.

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The offense CAN'T change in the middle of the season.. however what is being called has definitely changed. We are seeing more 12 personnel with the QB under center and the backs in the deep set now.

27 of Pollard's 36 carries (75%) have come from under center.
45 of Zeke's 59 carries (76.3%) have come from under center.

Compare that to last season..

97 of 130 carries ( 74.6%) were under center for Pollard.
167 of 237 carries (70.4%) were under center for Zeke.

So a slight uptick for Pollard but a much larger percentage for Zeke. Bear in mind that the season numbers from last year are skewed by the number of blowout wins wherein the Cowboys were just lining up and handing off to run out the clock.. There have obviously been no blowouts so far this year.. yet the under center numbers are significantly higher..

Same with the passing game.. 29 of 102 pass attempts (28.4%) for Rush have been under center..
Last season Dak was 120 of 596 attempts (20.1%) under center.

The numbers tell the story.. They are using different formations and calling a different game for Rush.. The kicker, at least for me, is that they NEED to be calling this gameplan for Dak too. The pass/run ratio has been damn near 50/50. Last year it was 56/44. And again, last year's run numbers are inflated because of the 5 or 6 blowouts.

I won't even bother to give the splits between the Tampa game compared to these last three.. I will offer this.. Dak attempted 4 passes from under center against Tampa.. Not even 15%.

kskboys said:

It's also really not hard to see that Rush is handling the QB duties completely differently than Dak. And it's also not hard to see that the schemes are the same, but the reads at the LOS by the QB are different.

I have no idea what Salud means, but Salud!!!!

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The scheme and formation have a lot to do with it. Rush has less reads to go through and we're in 12 personal max protect the vast majority. When we play more prolific teams you're going to see Rush struggle with the pressure. Then I think you'll see how they are different in that respect.

RomoIsGod said:

Dak obviously has a better arm and is more athletic. But is Rush a better at seeing the field? Reading defenses and a better game manager?

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He is more decisive and better at pre-snap reads. Obviously not as athletic. The way he gets the team up to the line, then uses some movement to read, then makes blocking adjustments... appears to my untrained eye to be better.

CATCH17 said:

A lot of QBs do this on purpose. I’m positive you’re wrong.

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i've seen Rodgers do it like 3 times in one game lol. Took advantage of like a 3rd string CB and it worked everytime.

G2 said:

The scheme and formation have a lot to do with it. Rush has less reads to go through and we're in 12 personal max protect the vast majority. When we play more prolific teams you're going to see Rush struggle with the pressure. Then I think you'll see how they are different in that respect.

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I don't see less reads at all. Rush goes through them faster which makes it seem like fewer.

Agree that the pressure will most likely affect him to a great degree.

So we are now trying to discredit Rush by saying he doesn't have the TE's to throw to? I must have misread that?