Dak and the elephant in the room

pete026 said:

Yep, then there was another, Cowboys Forever or something like that. Good times!!!

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GINeric said:

Im not going to call out any names.... but just look at the normal Dak experts who provide us with multiple posts and threads when Dallas loses and Dak is under center.... but when the Cowboys win and Dak is under center and plays well.... THEY POST LESS... AND JUST DISAPPEAR FOR THE WEEK.

The same people who applauded Rush for his 100 yard passing contribution, are those same folks nitpicking and downplaying Dak for his solid performance today passing for over 200 yards and playing in his second game in 9 months.

Only on this board.... 100 is greater than 200+

You can tell the people who weren't happy today. They tried to say Dak looked like this or didn't do that against the Lions.... But these are the same Lions that put up 45, 24, and 35 points against the Eagles, Vikings and Seahawks. They only put up 6 on us....

The Eagles only beat the Lions by 3, the Vikings only beat the Lions by 4, and the Seahawks only beat the Lions by 3..... Dallas beat them by 18 points....

And they still tried to downplay his performance after coming back from being inactive for over a month.

Where's the praise for the win that was heaped on other quarterbacks we have that produced less???

Hmmm....

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Cowboyny said:

We were terrible on 3rd and short, that's not on the QB.

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GINeric said:

You ended the other post addressed to me by saying..... "stop the hypocrisy".

Defensive and paranoid, im not. Im in a great mood that my favorite football team won yesterday. A great team victory.

The better question is, why are you in such a bad mood if you're REALLY a Cowboys fan???

You are angry and emotional that Dak and all of the other players all contributed to a nice win over a scrappy Lions team that almost beat the undefeated Eagles, the 5-1 Vikings, and the 4-3 Seahawks.

Dak inspired the guys like a true leader does to beat the Lions in a way those other good teams couldn't.

And that makes you and your anti-Dak crew angry.... VERY angry. If you and all the other minions who cheer against Dak were David Banner.... all of yall would have turned green and have this board looking like a dispensary full of Incredible Hulks.....


LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!

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Verdict said:

Tom Brady doesn’t appear to be all that and a bag of chips lately either. The fat lady may be warming up to sing on him.

It is ironic that Father Time may or may not have caught up with him but Giselle may have been the mail in the coffin for him.

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USArmyVet said:

Facts matter: the Hulk's alter ego name was originally Bruce Banner and later changed to David for tv purposes. Stan Lee has confirmed that the Hulk's real name is Bruce Banner.

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JMech said:

The elephant in the room is the stupidity of the Cowboys fans. Either you dont know any football or you one of the legion of trolls on this site.

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GINeric said:

Im just confused... because all throughout the week after the Bucs game week one.... I was told by many that the good quarterbacks in the league, lead their team to more than 3 points in a game.

And one of the worst teams in the NFL (Panthers) held Brady to.... well 3 points.

I need for all of those people from week one to explain THIS. Sadly, these are the times when those frauds run and hide, and fail to keep that same "logical energy" argument that they apply for one quarterback. But they can't put a spin on this for the other quarterback (Brady).

So they just quietly hide..... typical cowardly behavior and nobody can really disagree with me on that.

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Verdict said:

Yeah. There are people who have an agenda against Dak. I can understand as a fan how that wouldn’t set well with some. I just ignore those people.

Then on the other hand you have the people who want to label you a Dak hater for just being evaluative. I don’t really care about those people either. They equally have an agenda.

This post is intended to represent the vast majority of fans who like Dak, want him to succeed, but also realize Dak’s warts are all on display and they are getting worse.

I would love to see Dak bring us a SB. But I’m afraid if we get one it will be in spite of Dak, not because of him.

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Vtwin said:

Sidestep? Spin out? We see that happen every week here and there across the league. No guarantees of course but giving up and falling backwards does guarantee a sack and in this case, giving up three points in a tight, low scoring game. He gave up way to easy on that play.

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Streifenkarl said:

What's to explain? That time is finally catching up with the GOAT who has several SB wins on his hand vs our above average but not top 5 QB who should be in his prime? That both simply sucked in each game? What exactly is your problem?

It's rather astonishing that the Panthers could hang "so many" points around the Buccaneers neck (which would have been enough for a win in our game too) when our offense couldn't. Yes that happens, no big deal. They got better in the next games. But then just name it, the Dallas offense (including Dak) sucked in that game. Simple.

I really don't get your (and that of your Dak pals) problem when someone just states the obvious. Doesn't mean Dak can't have great games again. Let's hope he'll show us against the Vikings and GB.

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JMech said:

So you missed two key points which invalidates your drivel.

1. Dak was off for 6 weeks and has just started throwing in practice. No doubt there was rust that needed to be cleaned up. This is still the same QB running the show from last year that had the top scoring O in the league.
2. Detroit had a bye week. They had time to work on their defensive shortcomings and prepare for the Cowboys. They had one of the top scoring offenses in the league thus far. The coach is not a dummy and he works his players hard and they played hard for him.

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Verdict said:

Let’s get this out of the way first:

1. I’m pro Dak
2. He is better than Rush
3. I’m not suggesting Rush should start over Dak
4. I hope we win a super bowl with Dak.

Having said that it’s time that people started being realistic about our QB situation:

1. Dak starts off horribly slow.
2. Dak killed several drives today that were totally ON DAK.
3. He’s not a top 10 QB.
4. He struggled with the 32nd ranked defense.
5. Something is wrong with Dak in terms of seeing/processing the field.
6. Dak’s accuracy is very suspect. I’d say Dak is in the bottom 1/3 of the league in that category.
7. Dak doesn’t elevate the team. Dak doesn’t elevate the team.
8. The WRs are getting plenty open, Dak just doesn’t see them.
9. If they don’t run Dak 3-4 times per game —Dak is going to have a much harder time winning. He needs that threat to keep defenses more honest.
10. The only way Dak wins a SB is if the team Carrie’s him. He is nothing more than a middling bus driver right now.
11. I would love to see Dak develop and become the next Tom Brady, but I don’t think Dak has the football IQ to get it done.
12. Dak has the physical traits but he doesn’t have the mind to get it done as of right now.
13. I like Dak and I like Zeke as a Cowboys fan, but those two together are a handicap to overcome.

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Streifenkarl said:

Very good post. One game at a time. But one should be allowed to criticize players and coaches for the stuff happening on the field. That's not hating. Actually far from it as it would be awesome if Dak would play lights out again and lead us to another SB.

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Verdict said:

The fact that you seem to want to resort to personal attacks doesn’t strengthen your position. If you want to call 3 points by Dak in the TB game elite, that’s fine. It’s not realistic, but that’s fine.

Three points by the team in the first half was not elite either. That was largely on Dak, too. The slow starts are in large part on Dak.

Dak is better than Rush. But he’s not playing like you want a $40m per year QB to play. If you can’t see that….peace out. Lol.

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Cowboyny said:

It was his first game back, was he perfect? No, but he played well. The offense struggled mostly due to their inability to convert 3rd and shorts on the ground.

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Verdict said:

Always excuses for Dak. Lol. This post proves a few things:

1. Deep down you know Dak isn’t performing like he should.
2. You have an agenda of wanting to believe Dak is better than he really is.
3. You want to make excuses for his bad play.
4. Dak did play very poorly yesterday.
5. Dak stumbled against the 32nd ranked defense.


Now, by all means, please carry on with your charade that anyone who says anything bad about Dak’s play has an agenda against Dak. Lol. It’s simply not true.

You can cheer for Dak and the team and level fair criticism of Dak. They are not mutually exclusive, even though you desperately spin it as if they are mutually exclusive. We all know why so many take that position. They are not emotionally mature enough to believe that their heroes are not totally infallible.

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Verdict said:

Always excuses for Dak. Lol. This post proves a few things:

1. Deep down you know Dak isn’t performing like he should.
2. You have an agenda of wanting to believe Dak is better than he really is.
3. You want to make excuses for his bad play.
4. Dak did play very poorly yesterday.
5. Dak stumbled against the 32nd ranked defense.


Now, by all means, please carry on with your charade that anyone who says anything bad about Dak’s play has an agenda against Dak. Lol. It’s simply not true.

You can cheer for Dak and the team and level fair criticism of Dak. They are not mutually exclusive, even though you desperately spin it as if they are mutually exclusive. We all know why so many take that position. They are not emotionally mature enough to believe that their heroes are not totally infallible.

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GINeric said:

Listen... i really don't have any problems with the intelligent fans who have legitimate gripes and concerns. I actually respect that.

My only problem is with the hypocritical, goal post moving, fans that actually hope and cheer for Dak to have a bad game, even at the cost at the overall team success.

They were literally mad and angry after WE WON yesterday!!! They have not posted too much after the game OR today because they're angry Dak pissed on their agendas.

If you look at posting patterns, you'll easily be able to tell who they are.

When we lose, they have 50 posts blaming Dak whether or not its his fault. But when we win, they discredit Dak and get mad/frustrated with the praises for Dak AND the team and they stop posting for a while.

**** is SOOOOOOOOO hilarious!!!!

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GINeric said:

And you proved my point!!!

Week one, according to you and your co-minions who hate and cheer against Dak.... after the Bucs game, you would have thought that Dak was the only quarterback in NFL history that was held to 3 points. "Good quarterbacks score more than 3 points". These are the things that were said.....


But when ANOTHER quarterback only score 3 points.... AND AGAINST ONE OF THE WORST TEAMS WHO PUBLICLY GAVE UP ON THE SEASON..... you minions say "yes it happens. No big deal!"

Let me ask you this.... how is it a big deal when a pretty good Bucs defense held Dak to 3 points....

But its NOT a big deal when the GOAT is held to 3 points by a HORRIBLE team with an interim head coach and the same team that traded their best asset because they gave up on the season???

Why didn't yall say "yes it happens, no big deal" after week one vs the Bucs???

Make it make sense.....

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