What is the real reason for trading Amari Cooper?

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Why do we keep pretending like the FO knows what it is doing? Aside from the draft, everything else has been a disaster. lol, how many times have we heard that they 'tried' to get some FA and it failed miserably or we made some 'fair offer' and it was declined. Ever since Stephen took over, we have been a frugal, penny pinching team that is constantly looking for bargains. That would be great if we were running a mutual fund, but it's awful in the world of competitive sports where you need every advantage you can get. It's clear as day our offensive production was affected and now we're looking for Odell, which we probably won't get since we're going to lowball him.
 

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Amari Cooper is clearly a talented NFL wide receiver. He has size, speed, and superior route running ability. So why have both the Raiders and the Cowboys cut ties with him after 3-1/2 seasons in each location?

The missed trade for Brandon Cooks, and the potential signing of Odell Beckham, Jr. means that it wasn’t money that drove the decision to part with Cooper. Both players will command salaries similar to Cooper.

From the outside looking in, it appears that Amari has always been the consummate professional in how he handles himself with fans and the media. So it is a bit baffling that he has only had a shelf life of about 42 months in each location prior to being traded a second time to the Browns for only a 5th round pick.

The reality is that although offensive production is down in Dallas this year, we don’t know how much of that to attribute to the loss of Cooper. The injury to Dak, and the renewed commitment to running the football have also contributed to the lower overall production through the first 8 games.

Frankly, I’m left wondering what it is about Cooper that we don’t know.

You should know the reason...Jerry and Stephen didn't feel like he was earning that 20mil. He hurt the team by not taking his covid shots.
 

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Cooper ain’t a number one though. Davante Adams is a number one. Tyreke is. Number one.

And yeah I’m sure you don’t care right now. But if when it’s time to re-sign Diggs and Parsons and you can’t because you mismanaged the cap and can’t? Yeah you will care then.

Yes he is, he just isn’t as good as them. Dude is almost a lock for 1K+ yards every year when he’s healthy and gets the targets.

And no, I don’t care right now about their contracts we can deal with it when we get there. You could move Cooper then or make a tough decision on Lamb. The fact is we moved Cooper too early trying to be cute thinking we didn’t need him and now the FO is scrambling to cover their mistake.

Another Jones and co blunder in softer managements
 

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As far as production goes he has replaced him.

So now the narrative is changed again and the goalposts moved further.

The problem is they haven’t had anyone replace Lambs production from last year. Cooper isn’t a number one in this league and maybe Lamb isn’t either. He hasn’t shown it yet if he is. I can’t cry about losing a number two receiver.

No, but apparently you can ‘cry’ that someone is now a lesser player because they’re no longer a Cowboy.
 

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Yes he is, he just isn’t as good as them. Dude is almost a lock for 1K+ yards every year when he’s healthy and gets the targets.

And no, I don’t care right now about their contracts we can deal with it when we get there. You could move Cooper then or make a tough decision on Lamb. The fact is we moved Cooper too early trying to be cute thinking we didn’t need him and now the FO is scrambling to cover their mistake.

Another Jones and co blunder in softer managements


Exactly. The real issue is the Little Enos botched the cap and Cooper’s ‘sin’ was not having guaranteed money forcing the Cowboys to keep him. His was the one deal that could save Junior’s hide, so he got the shaft.
 

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And yes - it is a bargain. Go look at what other #1s are making.

Getting a guy signed early "cause the price is only going to go up and it will be a bargain down the road" only applies to certain positions apparently.
 

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He hurt the team by not taking his covid shots.

yet those who took the shots but still got sick didn't? whether you took the shot or not, once you got sick it really didn't matter you were missing time. getting sick during a pandemic doesn't seem to be a sound reason to hold a grudge against someone.
 

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Some random things from this thread that make me go :huh:

Blaming Amari for the 49ers game? The only guy to score a TD? Because he was so wide open ....

Amari not a #1? Really? The receiver that almost always drew double coverage. The one that every analyst, commentator, etc., reviews his tape and says they guy is open on almost every play?

That people really believe it was a football only decision.

That the team wouldn't be better with him.
 

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There’s fair arguments for each side of the Cooper situation…..

but the real screw up IMO was thinking that a 3rd round pick from a small school could step in and replace the production immediately.

I would hope that the biggest reason for dealing Cooper was that they decided that we needed to be a more run oriented team…..but that isn’t what happened. They would have said so….
 

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Per the usual…

Jobs for life, no matter how poorly they perform. It must be great to know that no matter how bad you are at your job, you still make an obscene amount of money and you can never be fired.
 

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Some random things from this thread that make me go :huh:

Blaming Amari for the 49ers game? The only guy to score a TD? Because he was so wide open ....

Amari not a #1? Really? The receiver that almost always drew double coverage. The one that every analyst, commentator, etc., reviews his tape and says they guy is open on almost every play?

That people really believe it was a football only decision.

That the team wouldn't be better with him.


Fan blinders.

Not mature enough to deal with negative facts about their Cowboys.

Every player is automatically better when they arrive in Dallas and worse when they leave.
 

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Jobs for life, no matter how poorly they perform. It must be great to know that no matter how bad you are at your job, you still make an obscene amount of money and you can never be fired.

I’d love that kind of job security.
 

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Clearly they just traded him just to piss off the whiners. Looks like it worked :thumbup:
 

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Why do we keep pretending like the FO knows what it is doing? Aside from the draft, everything else has been a disaster. lol, how many times have we heard that they 'tried' to get some FA and it failed miserably or we made some 'fair offer' and it was declined. Ever since Stephen took over, we have been a frugal, penny pinching team that is constantly looking for bargains. That would be great if we were running a mutual fund, but it's awful in the world of competitive sports where you need every advantage you can get. It's clear as day our offensive production was affected and now we're looking for Odell, which we probably won't get since we're going to lowball him.


This isn't the Garrett years, the team is making smarter decisions and finally thinking a little long term instead of the "win now" garbage Jerry peddled for 3 decades. As you get closer which this team is doing you start preparing and spending. And I have no doubt the activity picks up. I do blame the front office for many things and many years of complete crap, but this team today looks very different. I mean "team". Not just a few random players head to head. Top to bottom, there's a good thing happening here wether we get Odell or not.
 
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They got rid of Dez when he could no longer produce at a high level. What’s the issue? He played for two teams in the Ravens and Saints and they got rid of him too.

When have the Cowboys gotten rid of a player and got worse as a team?

Do you have a problem with them getting rid of Collins and Gregory and Conner too?
No issues with Gregory more flash than substance, Collins I was on the fence about because I did not think Steele would progress. Conner Williams I would have had no issue if he had stayed honestly, was he all-pro no, he was a proven starter and if he signed decent valued contract no issues. The team has only become risk averse because they had to start a back up for 6 weeks. How did that re-made WR corp look game 1 or this past game.
 

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Fans want to argue if Cooper's performance was worth the money...as if that had ANY reason why Jerry did what he did. Cooper trashed Dak, period. Cooper wasn't holding hands in the locker room and keeping his mouth shut. That will get you out of here faster than poor play. Think Jerry really did it to save money, just to try to turn around and dump all that cash on an average Gregory? When Jerry gives out an awful contract, he's gonna see it through no matter how the player performs. Unless that player shows any indication that there is a rift in the locker room.
 

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Amari Cooper is clearly a talented NFL wide receiver. He has size, speed, and superior route running ability. So why have both the Raiders and the Cowboys cut ties with him after 3-1/2 seasons in each location?

The missed trade for Brandon Cooks, and the potential signing of Odell Beckham, Jr. means that it wasn’t money that drove the decision to part with Cooper. Both players will command salaries similar to Cooper.

From the outside looking in, it appears that Amari has always been the consummate professional in how he handles himself with fans and the media. So it is a bit baffling that he has only had a shelf life of about 42 months in each location prior to being traded a second time to the Browns for only a 5th round pick.

The reality is that although offensive production is down in Dallas this year, we don’t know how much of that to attribute to the loss of Cooper. The injury to Dak, and the renewed commitment to running the football have also contributed to the lower overall production through the first 8 games.

Frankly, I’m left wondering what it is about Cooper that we don’t know.

Umm, they didn't make the Cooks trade over money and compensation, the AC trade was 75% to save immediate cap space, yes money was the bigger reason even of the rest was OTHER... 22mil cap hit cut times save 16mil put together a deeper team.

its no mystery please all of you atop with Cooper you would think this guy was Rice hes not even as good as Dez was on his 3 year elite seasons. AC is very good starting WR, nothing more, nothing less, hes not special and replacing his production was not hard.

we may not have gotten better, but we are no worse without him, 6-2 says it all Lamb who BTW was our leading WR last year is a1 , need proof, Lamb AND AC STATS ARE NEARLY IDENTICAL. odd with such a bad wr core without all mighty next coming of jerry rice in cooper to draw coverage, somehow Lamb has the same stats and let's stop the worst with Brissett, really what did Cooper rush do before this year? they both right now been in similar offenses with similar qbs and Lamb is going catch to catch with AC..

lets stop the 100-game nonsense, odd how AC disappears so many games he needs 100-yard games to catch up, we call that being inconsistent and his $$ was big reason he got cut at the time we needed cap relief and did not need a 22 mil wr who is clearly not better then lamb.

Yes AC was solid starting wr but so is Lamb.. crazy how Lamb without all that help in ced , turner, jarwin, or AC and more importantly without DAK many of those games, still has the same production as AC at this point. 100 yard games don't mean much, so lamb has 75 per or a few 90 yarders, but in the end its overall production.

please stop the nonsense his $$$ was big reason, his inconsistency and lack of passion and drive was the other. its all led to his trade and now we will move on.. the raiders saw it, cowboys saw it, now hes gone.. not an indictment on his skillset, he simply no longer was a fit, mostly over $$$$.
 

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Fans want to argue if Cooper's performance was worth the money...as if that had ANY reason why Jerry did what he did. Cooper trashed Dak, period. Cooper wasn't holding hands in the locker room and keeping his mouth shut. That will get you out of here faster than poor play. Think Jerry really did it to save money, just to try to turn around and dump all that cash on an average Gregory? When Jerry gives out an awful contract, he's gonna see it through no matter how bad the player is. Unless that player shows any indication that there is a rift in the locker room.


Did he see Collins through? Jaylon Smith?

The stats or the contract did him no favors at all.. on top of calling out the QB. Then there's the other issue. All of those things no doubt played a part.
 
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