Lamb’s feet were in on the touchdown

Proof · Nov 25, 2022

JustChip said:
If he pulls the foot up after the toes touch and then lands butt first or elbow first out of bounds, it’s a catch. Or if he drags the toes across the line and then lands in his butt or elbow first, it’s a catch. Pretty convoluted rule, but it is what it is. Still doesn't take away from CeeDee’s outstanding effort.

that’s the best explanation i’ve heard. good stuff

Cydios · Nov 25, 2022

Dez caught it

Runwildboys · Nov 25, 2022

calicowboy54 said:
same thing... he's in as long as another foot came down 1st... its like the toe drag it is 2 down inbounds, Heal or toe whatever as long as its 2 before. which in both cases yes 2 touched inbounds before out of bounds touched. So he's in Touchdown.

It's never worked that way. The foot is a whole entity, and if one part of it touches OB, the whole thing is OB. It doesn't matter if one part of it touched in bounds first.

Runwildboys · Nov 25, 2022

calicowboy54 said:
Perfect Shot 2 down inbounds... Its a Touchdown.

You can't use a still shot to determine the outcome. It's not the photo finish of a horse race.

Fritsch_the_cat · Nov 25, 2022

Runwildboys said:
The left toes were down, and the heel came down OB while they were still down. Had the heel come down after the toes had dragged out of bounds,

You and others keep trying to explain the rule even though I have said time and time again I understand the rule I just think it's a bad one. None of you can give a reason why it is a good rule. A toe down is a toe down and should count whether they are falling forward or backwards. The only reason the heel came down OB is from his momentum, same as if he had been falling forward. It's a bad rule. The ones defending it seem to think both his toe and heel came down at the same time, but you can clearly see from the still photo he drug his toe.

Fritsch_the_cat · Nov 25, 2022

Runwildboys said:
It's never worked that way.

Works that way every sideline toe drag catch. The toe is inbounds, the heel comes down out of bounds.

blueblood70 · Nov 25, 2022

Jake said:
When the entire foot touches it has to all be in bounds. Doesn't matter if the toe touched first.

It's one of those quirky catch rules, like one knee equals two feet.

correct, yet in the field of play on the sideline that would be deemed a catch..lol oddball rules
I remember the dez pinky out game on spectacular catch,

SteveTheCowboy · Nov 25, 2022

I thought he was out. If the heal doesn't come down.....TD.

MHO not a fact.

Runwildboys · Nov 25, 2022

Fritsch_the_cat said:
You and others keep trying to explain the rule even though I have said time and time again I understand the rule I just think it's a bad one. None of you can give a reason why it is a good rule. A toe down is a toe down and should count whether they are falling forward or backwards. The only reason the heel came down OB is from his momentum, same as if he had been falling forward. It's a bad rule. The ones defending it seem to think both his toe and heel came down at the same time, but you can clearly see from the still photo he drug his toe.

It's pretty simple. The foot is a whole entity. If one part is OB, the whole thing is OB. If you were to change the rule so that whatever part touched first is all that counts, how do you determine the exact moment one part touches if say, the foot is landing flat? That's just making it yet another judgement call for the officials.

Runwildboys · Nov 25, 2022

blueblood70 said:
correct, yet in the field of play on the sideline that would be deemed a catch..lol oddball rules
I remember the dez pinky out game on spectacular catch,

No, it wouldn't. The same rule applies on the sideline.

Runwildboys · Nov 25, 2022

Fritsch_the_cat said:
Works that way every sideline toe drag catch. The toe is inbounds, the heel comes down out of bounds.

After the toes dragged all the way out of bounds.

ElGatoGrande · Nov 25, 2022

Jenky said:
He got both feet in. Was he robbed?

If just the toes touched it woulda been a TD but since the heel came down you have to count it as out.

Fritsch_the_cat · Nov 25, 2022

Runwildboys said:
It's pretty simple. The foot is a whole entity.

Apparently not if you are falling forward, only if you are falling backwards.

Runwildboys said:
If one part is OB, the whole thing is OB.

Again, that only applies if they are OB at the same time, else those toe tap sideline catches would not counts.

You can quit trying to explain the rule and instead say why it is a good rule and what the difference is with a toe only down falling forward and a toe only down falling backwards.

Fritsch_the_cat · Nov 25, 2022

Runwildboys said:
After the toes dragged all the way out of bounds.

LOL! Thanks for proving my point!

Fritsch_the_cat · Nov 25, 2022

ElGatoGrande said:
If just the toes touched

It did, heel only touches after he toe drug OB.

Runwildboys · Nov 25, 2022

Fritsch_the_cat said:
Apparently not if you are falling forward, only if you are falling backwards.

Again, that only applies if they are OB at the same time, else those toe tap sideline catches would not counts.

You can quit trying to explain the rule and instead say why it is a good rule and what the difference is with a toe only down falling forward and a toe only down falling backwards.

I explained why it's better this way in the same post you took these excerpts from.

Runwildboys · Nov 25, 2022

Fritsch_the_cat said:
LOL! Thanks for proving my point!

I didn't "prove your point". If the toes are the only part that touched the ground and they touched in bounds, the moment they drag out of bounds, the play is over, and any other part of the foot touching down no longer matters. But if the heel lands OB before the toes either come off the ground or slide OB, then, being part of that same foot, the whole foot is OB.

DUO_CORE · Nov 25, 2022

I'm glad they got the call wrong, otherwise we wouldn't have witnessed TE whack-a-mole

Fritsch_the_cat · Nov 25, 2022

Runwildboys said:
I didn't "prove your point". If the toes are the only part that touched the ground and they touched in bounds, the moment they drag out of bounds, the play is over, and any other part of the foot touching down no longer matters. But if the heel lands OB before the toes either come off the ground or slide OB, then, being part of that same foot, the whole foot is OB.

And the toe had slide OB before the heel came down OB.

fansince68 · Nov 25, 2022

Isn't that exactly what the meaning of "toe drag swag"?

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