OBJ Timeline Injuries

visionary · Nov 25, 2022

xwalker said:
Why? If the cost is reasonable, why not now.

because he’s a headcase when he’s not the center of attention

and anyway, why pay him this year when he won’t contribute and take up a roster spot?

erod · Nov 25, 2022

xwalker said:
Why? If the cost is reasonable, why not now.

He wants an Amari Cooper deal.

xwalker · Nov 25, 2022

erod said:
He wants an Amari Cooper deal.

Wants does not mean gets.

There appear to only be 3 teams interested in signing him. I don't see him getting a big guaranteed contract. Maybe 20M non-guaranteed for 2023 and 17M prorated for 2022 which would be 1M per game played.

JBS · Nov 25, 2022

visionary said:
thats what the medical staff and team will need to evaluate during his visit

this should not be a “for next year” move. This should be for now or not make it

Absolutely. I don’t think anybody thinks otherwise. Including Jerry & co. But just because he’s healthy doesn’t mean he will contribute. Look at Gallup, he’s been healthy all year. Now that doesn’t mean obj can’t contribute , but nobody knows. The medical won’t be enough.

JBS · Nov 25, 2022

erod said:
He's 30 and just tore the same knee twice. Not likely.

Not really arguing to be honest. Your point is strong.

john van brocklin · Nov 25, 2022

visionary said:
During the visit I’m sure they’ll do a medical and put him through the paces

One would hope!

Risen Star · Nov 25, 2022

JBS said:
Nobody knows the answer to this question. You can only speculate.

It's a pretty good bet that a player is not going to get on the field in mid December after a year rehab of another ACL tear and play anywhere near 100%. Then add in a new offense, new QB and the chances are so remote that they aren't worth considering.

JBS · Nov 25, 2022

Risen Star said:
It's a pretty good bet that a player is not going to get on the field in mid December after a year rehab of another ACL tear and play anywhere near 100%. Then add in a new offense, new QB and the chances are so remote that they aren't worth considering.

I would agree

RoboQB · Nov 25, 2022

Risen Star said:
I'm hoping they'll allow Jerry to do an exploratory scope of the knee.

Imagine that scene. Stephen's nose whistle in between heart monitor beeps.

With a freshly poured JWB on the tray, next to the scalpel.
Ya know, just to keep the hands steady... lol.

Cowboyny · Nov 25, 2022

xwalker said:
Wants does not mean gets.

There appear to only be 3 teams interested in signing him. I don't see him getting a big guaranteed contract. Maybe 20M non-guaranteed for 2023 and 17M prorated for 2022 which would be 1M per game played.

I’ve heard he is seeking a deal like Gallup’s

nightrain · Nov 25, 2022

OBJ is all hype right now. He would likely sign with someone this year and not make it out of the Trainer's room.

quickccc · Nov 25, 2022

visionary said:
If he can’t help this year in a significant way then you don’t sign him

Period

Cowboys and teams interested are in it for the long run, ..not just one year rental ..
That's apparently the clear picture.
Ditto with OBJ.

What i wonder and concerned with is .. should there be option outs, escape clauses and incentives in his contract ?
We've placed such clauses in past high dollar contracts, should we do the same with Beckham ?

Risen Star · Nov 25, 2022

JBS said:
I would agree

I accept your concession.

quickccc · Nov 25, 2022

Cowboyny said:
I’ve heard he is seeking a deal like Gallup’s

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/michael-gallup-25180/

What i am hearing is it (per Jane Slater) is it may be more about the guaranteed signing bonus than per year dollars.

OJB is 30 years old so he's not gonna have a long term deal like Gallup.(who BTW has an opt out in 2024)

IMO, It's gonna likely depend on the next 3 years. By 34-35 years of age He's gonna already be in decline and be outta the league when he hits that age.
and mind you, he's already not the most durable guy as it is now.

quickccc · Nov 25, 2022

VaqueroTD said:
One year cap friendly contract to prove you still have it after those injuries… come on board! I know that’s what he was trying last year, but it is what it is, you got hurt again. Don’t expect teams to pony up. Prove yourself on the contending team you pick and bank next year. Trying to get a cap killing contract right now only makes me think he knows it may be over.

forget it , i very highly doubt he's gonna do that. (one year rental)

and especially when he has other high rolling bidders that are willing to take a chance that
he's not only recovered but willing to gamble that he will anywhere near to his former lighting quick self.

All the hype and hoopla suggests OBJ is leading the high school recruit parade ..and he's the prep recruitee

CalPolyTechnique · Nov 25, 2022

Risen Star said:
It's a pretty good bet that a player is not going to get on the field in mid December after a year rehab of another ACL tear and play anywhere near 100%. Then add in a new offense, new QB and the chances are so remote that they aren't worth considering.

He'll be ready for the Pro Bowl flag football game, or whatever it is they are doing now.

Gangsta Spanksta · Nov 25, 2022

Ranching said:
He should be ready....I'm sure they have him checked out and put him some drills.
He needs at least 4 games to get timing and ready for the playoffs. That should be Dec.17..

The old coach is used to saying: Rub some dirt on it.

BHendri5 · Nov 25, 2022

Stash said:
Here’s some background on his most recent surgery, for those that don’t know:

Yes, the first ACL surgery was botched, the Doctor Who performed this last one cleaned up what was done wrong and fixed this latest one.

triplets_93 · Nov 25, 2022

What will OBJ's Cowboy's Jersey # be??

817Gill · Nov 25, 2022

triplets_93 said:
What will OBJ's Cowboy's Jersey # be??

Been wondering the same thing. All of our single digits and 80’s are taken or reserved and the only 16 is available in the teens. If practice squad guys don’t have permanent numbers he can choose between Brandon Smith’s 80 or Dennis Houston’s 17. Nothing pretty though.

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