Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Manning?

ringmaster · Jan 24, 2011

KJJ;3819039 said:
I keep bringing it up because that meltdown all started with Romo. Go back and review the way he played against Pittsburgh and go review the way Roethlisberger played and you'll see why Big Ben is in position to win his 3rd SB ring.

Before that Romo was lofting 2 heaves to Ed Reed you forget that part didn't you? Those 2 picks help put the Cowboys in an early hole.

While Romo was completing 53% of his passes with a passer rating of 66.2 ROOKIE Joe Flacco completed 68% of his passes and finished with a passer rating of 96.9.

Maybe this explains why Flacco's won 4 playoff games which is more wins than Romo has playoff appearances.

Romo turned the ball over twice and wasn't efficient which left the defense on the field a lot you forgot that part didn't you?

Romo got outplayed by a ROOKIE QB at HOME in a big game.

Flacco showed poise and leadership which is something that Romo doesn't seem to have especially in meaningful games.

I didn't blame it all on Romo but he played a part in that loss care to deny it? He had 3 turnovers in that game and finished with a passer rating of 55.8.

Are you going to tell me he's shows the poise and leadership in big games that Roethlisberger and Rodgers show?

Even Sanchez yesterday showed poise and leadership when his team was down 24-0.

He hung in there in a very difficult situation against a physical team and helped bring his team back.

He wasn't sulking on the sidelines the way Romo does. Even after the game Sanchez was consoling one of his teammates.

Go find the post game interview with Romo after the Philly debacle in 08 he sounded relieved the season was over it was like a big load was lifted off his back.

Romo is a very talented QB who can put up some terrific numbers but he simply hasn't show he has what it takes between the ears to get it done in Jan ESPECIALLY on the road in a hostile environment.

All it takes is one bad play in that type of atmosphere for the wheels to come off him. Go ahead and be in denial but the game film doesn't lie.

Romo's had good teams around him especially the 07 team.

He didn't play well against the Giants in the 07 playoffs and he didn't play well against Minn in the playoffs in 09.

He had a combined 4 turnovers in those games and wasn't efficient. Go check his numbers and compare them to his opposing QB.

I blame Crayton more than anyone for the Giants loss in 07 but Romo still didn't get it done. He played well against NY during the regular season but when everything was on the line he couldn't get it done.

His game went completely in the tank in Dec of 08. It was painful to watch.

The Packers had 15 players on IR this season and Rodgers lost one of his biggest pass receiving threats in Finley but it didn't stop him from getting his team to the SB. Romo isn't able to elevate his team.

There's been rumors that some in the locker room don't believe in him. Kitna looked more efficient than Romo when he took over and team looked better with him than with Romo.

Like I keep saying Romo is a very good QB but like Danny White his game comes apart in the games that matter most.

Romo can't seem to blow off a bad play it rattles him and the wheels start coming off his game. His accuracy goes down the drain then the strip sacks and picks start popping up.

He had 2 ill timed turnovers against Tenn and Jacksonville this season in the final 7 min of both games that helped seal the Cowboys fate.

Even though Romo is a much more productive QB than Roethlisberger during the regular season he isn't even half the QB Roethlisberger is in post season.

Cowboy fans could only WISH in their wildest dreams that Romo could make the plays that Roethlisberger makes in critical situations during Jan.

I listed the 9 most most productive QB's in NFL history and they only have 4 SB wins between them.

Of those 9 QB's 5 of them never even got their team to a SB. Romo has talent and is a very productive player but I have serious doubts he has what it takes to lead a team to a championship.

Rodgers played great early in the game but even though his game tailed off and he suffered a bad break on Urlachers int he maintained his poise and didn't allow his game to completely fall apart like we've seen with Romo.

Romo is the one who folds Rodgers hung in during a difficult stretch. You honestly think Romo would have hung in against that Bears defense on the road in Jan?. LOL

Romo already proved he couldn't handle the Bears defense early this past season in week 2 at HOME.

Part of being a great QB is being able to hang in when things aren't going your way.

I didn't see Rodgers sulking on the sidelines when things started going against the Packers. Had that been Romo fans would be thrilled he got us to the SB.

Romo gets beaten to death because the Cowboys keep coming up short! Against Buffalo a few years ago Romo turned the ball over 6 times but helped lead us to a win in the end and he received a lot of credit for bouncing back.

Romo is a different personality I kind of compare him to Jim McMahon in how he didn't take himself that seriously.

OTH Flacco completed 68% of his passes where is he now at home, Sanchez was on the sideline consoling his teammate showing great leadership skills where is he at home.

Having great leadership skills won't guarantee a championship and you should know that Romo is not your cup of tea because of the "leadership" qualities he supposedly lacks.

I for one is happy that the guy is our QB, and I like that he doesn't take himself that seriously like he's some type of robot rest assured if Romo, had Green Bay's defense he too would be in the SB period.

KJJ · Jan 24, 2011

ringmaster;3819213 said:
Romo is a different personality I kind of compare him to Jim McMahon in how he didn't take himself that seriously.

If that's the case he would be the wrong QB to get this team to a championship because he's asked to do a lot more than Jimmy Mac was asked to do with the Bears.

If there was any QB that ever got carried to a championship it was Jim McMahon.

Romo is going to have to make plays and avoid mistakes for the Cowboys to win a championship.

ringmaster;3819213 said:
OTH Flacco completed 68% of his passes where is he now at home, Sanchez was on the sideline consoling his teammate showing great leadership skills where is he at home.

Flacco and Sanchez may be home now but they gave their teams a chance this season which is more than Romo did while he was playing.

Dude those QB's have more playoff wins than Romo has playoff appearances.

They're both young QB's who've led their teams to title games and are only going to get better.

You need to come up with something a lot better than knocking Flacco and Sanchez with what they've accomplished in such a short period of time if you're trying to make a case for Romo's play in the postseason.

Romo was on a team that had 13 pro bowlers in 07 and his poor play late that season caused the Cowboys to go in a complete tailspin.

Romo has more experience than several of the young QB's who were in the playoffs this season.

ringmaster;3819213 said:
Having great leadership skills won't guarantee a championship and you should know that Romo is not your cup of tea because of the "leadership" qualities he supposedly lacks.

Great leadership skills may not guarantee a championship but a great leader puts a team in position to win one almost every year.

Romo's leadership has been under scrutiny ever since he took over as the Cowboys starting QB.

He's been criticized by a lot of respected people including Aikman for the way he handles things.

He's matured through the years but leaders are born not made and I can't think of any NFL team that's ever won a championship with a QB who's leadership was questioned.

ringmaster;3819213 said:
I for one is happy that the guy is our QB, and I like that he doesn't take himself that seriously like he's some type of robot rest assured if Romo, had Green Bay's defense he too would be in the SB period.

He needs to take the responsibility of being the Dallas Cowboys QB SERIOUSLY. His dedication has been questioned.

As for Romo leading the Packers to the SB because of their defense you honestly think he could have made some of the same plays under pressure that Rodgers made during the postseason without turning the ball over?

Rodgers has been sensational for the most part since the last few weeks of the season Romo is not the efficient QB that Rodgers is.

I guess you also think Romo could have made the same critical plays Roethlisberger did yesterday and got the Steelers to the SB with their defense? :laugh2:

Look, I like Romo as our QB because he's better than any of the QB's the Cowboys have had since Aikman and he gives us at least a glimmer of hope but I do have serious doubts the Cowboys will ever win a SB with him.

Only time will tell.

SacredStar · Jan 24, 2011

KJJ;3819039 said:
The Packers had 15 players on IR this season and Rodgers lost one of his biggest pass receiving threats in Finley but it didn't stop him from getting his team to the SB. Romo isn't able to elevate his team.

This has been mentioned before and Mike McCarthy also stated that the main reason GB even made the playoffs was the play of the defense, not the offense.

If the Packers don't have that defense, they would have been watching the playoffs just like Dallas no matter how good Rodgers played. They have the NFL's #2 scoring defense. Rodgers had several average games where the defense bailed him out. Take just one of those games away, and GB is outside looking in just like Dallas was.

I'm not saying Rodgers is not a great QB, he is w/o a doubt, but let's not make it sound like he is solely responsible for Packers success.

McCordsville Cowboy · Jan 24, 2011

We need some first round QB talent around here....

Need a "played on the big stage" guy, a first round arm and talent guy, a leader of men.

KJJ · Jan 24, 2011

SacredStar;3819304 said:
This has been mentioned before and Mike McCarthy also stated that the main reason GB even made the playoffs was the play of the defense, not the offense.

If the Packers don't have that defense, they would have been watching the playoffs just like Dallas no matter how good Rodgers played. They have the NFL's #2 scoring defense. Rodgers had several average games where the defense bailed him out. Take just one of those games away, and GB is outside looking in just like Dallas was.

I'm not saying Rodgers is not a great QB, he is w/o a doubt, but let's not make it sound like he is solely responsible for Packers success.

You honestly think the Packers would be in the SB if they had Alex Smith or some other inconsistent QB? In the NFL you go nowhere without a solid, efficient QB who can make plays in critical situations.

No one is saying he's solely responsible for the Packers success but he's a big reason they're in the SB. Favre would have found a way to lose yesterday.

SacredStar · Jan 24, 2011

KJJ;3819352 said:
You honestly think the Packers would be in the SB if they had Alex Smith or some other inconsistent QB? In the NFL you go nowhere without a solid, efficient QB who can make plays in critical situations.

With that team, yes. They are almost a complete team. There are a lot of QB's that would have success on that team with the scheme they run. Look at Matt Flynn and how he played against New England.....24/37 for 251 yards and 3 td's with little preparation. Yet it was GB's defense who held Brady to 163 yards passing and 2 td's.

The Packers defense bailed that team out quite a bit this year.

Apollo Creed · Jan 24, 2011

McCordsville Cowboy;3819310 said:
We need some first round QB talent around here....

Need a "played on the big stage" guy, a first round arm and talent guy, a leader of men.

Choo choo. Right on schedule, it's the Quinn Express with predictable idiotic anti-Romo rhetoric.

Trendnet · Jan 24, 2011

Apollo Creed;3819399 said:
Choo choo. Right on schedule, it's the Quinn Express with predictable idiotic anti-Romo rhetoric.

Him and KJJ are like two peas in a pod.

RCowboyFan · Jan 24, 2011

percyhoward;3818644 said:
Rodgers is elite. I think Roethlisberger is a good player on a great team.

Roethlisberger's Ratings in Playoff Games: Pittsburgh's W-L Record
Poor Game (lower than 70.0): W 3 L 0
Below Avg Game (70.1-85.0): W 1 L 2
Above Avg Game (85.1-100.0): W 3 L 0
Great Game (higher than 100.0): W 3 L 0

Roethlisberger has put up a 100 rating or better 3 times in 12 playoff starts.

6 times he's been above average, and the Steelers are 6-0. 6 times he's been below average, and the Steelers are 4-2. (The average team would be lucky to go 2-4).

I think Passer ratings without the game tape is as foolish to me as ranking Vick up there. The guy is clutch in game drives, however you want to put it. Aren't you one claiming Rodgers is elite? Its same dumb arguments that people had against Aikman, about him not having enough TDs etc. vs other QBs of his era. But I would take Aikman over Farve any day in playoffs.

Similarly, I would take Ben Rothesliberger over Rodgers anyday, when you need a TD on last drive to win a game. Meanwhile you can take those stats have fun with it.

StylisticS · Jan 24, 2011

SSGMIKE;3818753 said:
Really... Are we talking about the same ROMO that went 1-6 this year and couldn't score against Commanders to start the season off? The difference that Romo would get killed by that Packers and Steelers Defensive this year...... Romo don't have the arm strength to get to the next level, unless he get another soft schedule and play the Eagles at the end of the season to get in? and have to win in December again.... Ah I forgot he only did that one time in his carrerr.....

So we had a soft schedule in December 2009. Hearing it all now. Beating the undefeated Saints in new orleans, beating a hot philly team at the time twice, losing by 7 to a hot san diego team is a soft schedule. Ridiculous.

gbrittain · Jan 24, 2011

KJJ;3819039 said:
I keep bringing it up because that meltdown all started with Romo. Go back and review the way he played against Pittsburgh and go review the way Roethlisberger played and you'll see why Big Ben is in position to win his 3rd SB ring.
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You just kill KJJ...kill me. I understand you don't like Romo, but you gloss over faults of other QBs and the benefits of playing with a top notch defense when it comes to other QBs but when it comes to Romo not so much.

Lets start with the Romo Pittsburgh game. Not his best game by any stretch. This game should no more define Romo than a bad game Ben R has played. Yes, he has had more than a few my friend.

Before that Romo was lofting 2 heaves to Ed Reed you forget that part didn't you? Those 2 picks help put the Cowboys in an early hole.

While Romo was completing 53% of his passes with a passer rating of 66.2 ROOKIE Joe Flacco completed 68% of his passes and finished with a passer rating of 96.9.

Maybe this explains why Flacco's won 4 playoff games which is more wins than Romo has playoff appearances.

So is it about stats or not about stats? If it is about stats Romo stats are better than most. I thought it was about winning? When Romo was making a furious comeback the DEFENSE folded like a cheap suit.

I get it. Had Romo played better the furious comeback would not have been necessary. Do you get...If you subtract yesterdays defensive TD by Pitt, the defensive TD by Pitt versus Arizona in the Super Bowl and subtract a 75 yard TD by Willie Parker and Touchdown pass by Hines Ward to Randle El, that Big Ben would have zero RINGS?

Yeah Romo did not get it done. Neither did hero boy Tom Brady (I bet you like him huh?).

In the playoffs opposing QBs did the following:

Garcia 20 of 39 for 207 yards 1 TD and two INTs. 14 Offensive points.

Romo 18 of 36 for 201 yards 1 TD and 1 INT. 17 Offensive points.

Favre 19 of 35 236 yards 2 TDs and 2 INTs. 20 Offensive points. Dig deeper into this game and outside of a flukish 90 Yards TD pass early in the second QTR you will see that Brett Favre led a FG scoring drive of 29 yards, 0 yards, and a TD drive of 39 yards)

Brady 29 of 48 for 266 yards 1 TD and no INTs. 14 Offensive points. Brady led the Patriots to a 40 yard drive TD and a 80 yard drive TD.

By the way. Romo led the Cowboys to a 101 yard, and 90 yard TD plus a 67 yard Field Goal drive.

Say what you want but Romo had a better game against that Giant defense than Favre or Brady.

Again, I find most Romo bashers just look at the final score and go loser as opposed to putting things into context.

Romo has had his faults no doubt. So has Roethlisboy but he has had a much superior defense to bail his butt out. I suspect when Romo gets to play a few playoff games and meaningful regular season games in which the defense shows up you will see a QB who all of a sudden develops that magical clutch gene!

When you go down to it the Romo hate stems from the following games:

Romo at Seattle - I agree, Romo the holder stinks. Still the Cowboys win that game if Glenn doesn't give up a safety, and the Dallas D plays some semblance of what is called defense as opposed to letting a tight end like Jeramy Stevens to get wide open for a 37 yard TD.

Romo at Giants - I have already addressed this one.

Romo at Baltimore - You give credit to other QBs who have bad games but rise to the occasion when the chips are down, but not so when it comes to Romo. He rose when it mattered most but the D folded.

Romo at Pittsburgh - Bad game.

Romo at Philly - Another bad bad game. I guess this never ever happens to other good QBs. Just Romo.

Romo at Minnesota - Bad game, even worse OL.

You know how you like to illustrate (contrast) the difference between Romo and Ben R in the Pitt game a few years ago?

I like to refer to the Seattle game and NY Giants game when comparing Ben R Defense versus the Romo Defense. Dallas needed a stop against Seattle gave up game winning TD. Dallas takes the lead against the Giants with only 53 seconds to go in the half, and the Giants go the distance for a TD.

KJJ · Jan 24, 2011

SacredStar;3819392 said:
With that team, yes. They are almost a complete team. There are a lot of QB's that would have success on that team with the scheme they run. Look at Matt Flynn and how he played against New England.....24/37 for 251 yards and 3 td's with little preparation. Yet it was GB's defense who held Brady to 163 yards passing and 2 td's.

The Packers defense bailed that team out quite a bit this year.

Flynn played one game you honestly think he could have played that way the entire year and into the postseason leading the Packers to the SB?

Then maybe the Packers should trade Rodgers for a bunch of draft picks and go with Flynn. Would you do that? LOL

If you think Alex Smith could have led the Packers to the SB making the same brilliant plays we saw Rodgers make then you're a waste of time!

KJJ · Jan 24, 2011

gbrittain;3819493 said:
You just kill KJJ...kill me. I understand you don't like Romo, but you gloss over faults of other QBs and the benefits of playing with a top notch defense when it comes to other QBs but when it comes to Romo not so much.

Just because I'm critical of Romo doesn't mean I don't like him. Do you like everything about Romo?

Are there certain qualities you wish he had or didn't have?

Are you completely satisfied with him as a QB? Bro, everyone has some issues with Romo but that doesn't mean everyone doesn't like him or think he's a bad QB.

I don't gloss over the facts that these QB's have good defenses. Romo also had a good defense heading into Minn in 09.

The Cowboys had back to back shutouts to close out the regular season that year. Our defense was playing great heading into Minn.

The point I'm making is Romo is unable to maintain his game like some of these other QB's do in big games.

If you can't see that by his history then you're in denial.

gbrittain;3819493 said:
Lets start with the Romo Pittsburgh game. Not his best game by any stretch. This game should no more define Romo than a bad game Ben R has played. Yes, he has had more than a few my friend.

Roethlisberger's career has been defined by extending plays and winning big games. Romo's career has been defined by making the big mistake like the fumbled snap against Seattle in 06.

The biggest mistake in Romo's career came in a playoff game. Some of his worst plays have come in big spotlighted games.

Fans remember Roethlisbergers great plays because they've come in big games.

All great QB's have had some bad games even Montana had them but he had a lot more great games and some of his best games came in the games that mattered most. That's why he's so idolized.

Roethlisberger is the same way he's amazing in big games. I don't care how many defenders are hanging on him he makes the play when his team needs it. He's very gifted that way.

gbrittain;3819493 said:
Maybe this explains why Flacco's won 4 playoff games which is more wins than Romo has playoff appearances.

What explains it about Flacco is he's poised and picks up critical 3rd downs and makes plays when has to.

He completed almost 63% of his passes and finished the season with a 93.6 passer rating plus he only had 10 int's.

You have to remember he's only been in the league 3 years and got the Ravens to the playoffs each of those years.

gbrittain;3819493 said:
So is it about stats or not about stats? If it is about stats Romo stats are better than most. I thought it was about winning? When Romo was making a furious comeback the DEFENSE folded like a cheap suit.

We're not talking about "regular season" stats we're talking about big game stats primarily postseason stats and Romo's aren't better than most during those games.

Go compare his stats with the QB's who've beaten him in big games.

He doesn't have the productive numbers during those games. His completion percentage goes down from what we see in the regular season.

His passer rating is well below what his regular season rating is. He's simply not nearly as good or as productive a QB in the games that matter most.

As for the defense folding against the Ravens in 08 they were on the field a lot during that game because of Romo's inefficiency and the 2 gifts he heaved up to Ed Reed.

I'm not putting all the blame on Romo but he did put the team in an early hole they were never able to dig their way out of. He didn't play well that day and Flacco a ROOKIE did.

gbrittain;3819493 said:
I get it. Had Romo played better the furious comeback would not have been necessary. Do you get...If you subtract yesterdays defensive TD by Pitt, the defensive TD by Pitt versus Arizona in the Super Bowl and subtract a 75 yard TD by Willie Parker and Touchdown pass by Hines Ward to Randle El, that Big Ben would have zero RINGS?

You could do that all day with a lot of QB's and say if this didn't happen or that didn't happen they wouldn't have any rings. LOL

Roesthlisberger is a great QB and Romo isn't even close to the level he is in pressure games.

While Romo is adding to his stats that keep some Cowboy fans drooling Roethlisberger is on the verge of adding to his SB ring collection.

He doesn't do it pretty with big numbers he just gets it done by extending plays and completing game saving passes under pressure.

gbrittain;3819493 said:
Yeah Romo did not get it done. Neither did hero boy Tom Brady (I bet you like him huh?).

Are you trying to compare Romo with Brady?

You telling me you wouldn't take Brady over Romo? LOL

Yeah Brady didn't get it done this year but his team was in the hunt and he has 3 SB rings and will probably win more.

rysko · Jan 24, 2011

Rodgers is without a doubt a better quarterback than Roo.He was 2nd in the league as rushing qb's behind Mike Vick'''''''''''''

ringmaster · Jan 25, 2011

KJJ;3819286 said:
If that's the case he would be the wrong QB to get this team to a championship because he's asked to do a lot more than Jimmy Mac was asked to do with the Bears.

If there was any QB that ever got carried to a championship it was Jim McMahon.

Romo is going to have to make plays and avoid mistakes for the Cowboys to win a championship.

Flacco and Sanchez may be home now but they gave their teams a chance this season which is more than Romo did while he was playing.

Dude those QB's have more playoff wins than Romo has playoff appearances.

They're both young QB's who've led their teams to title games and are only going to get better.

You need to come up with something a lot better than knocking Flacco and Sanchez with what they've accomplished in such a short period of time if you're trying to make a case for Romo's play in the postseason.

Romo was on a team that had 13 pro bowlers in 07 and his poor play late that season caused the Cowboys to go in a complete tailspin.

Romo has more experience than several of the young QB's who were in the playoffs this season.

Great leadership skills may not guarantee a championship but a great leader puts a team in position to win one almost every year.

Romo's leadership has been under scrutiny ever since he took over as the Cowboys starting QB.

He's been criticized by a lot of respected people including Aikman for the way he handles things.

He's matured through the years but leaders are born not made and I can't think of any NFL team that's ever won a championship with a QB who's leadership was questioned.

He needs to take the responsibility of being the Dallas Cowboys QB SERIOUSLY. His dedication has been questioned.

As for Romo leading the Packers to the SB because of their defense you honestly think he could have made some of the same plays under pressure that Rodgers made during the postseason without turning the ball over?

Rodgers has been sensational for the most part since the last few weeks of the season Romo is not the efficient QB that Rodgers is.

I guess you also think Romo could have made the same critical plays Roethlisberger did yesterday and got the Steelers to the SB with their defense? :laugh2:

Look, I like Romo as our QB because he's better than any of the QB's the Cowboys have had since Aikman and he gives us at least a glimmer of hope but I do have serious doubts the Cowboys will ever win a SB with him.

Only time will tell.

Yes he would've made those plays Roethlisberger made if he was a Steeler.

Please spare me with your stat system.

Sanchez, Roethlisberger, or any other QB would've been killed behind this o-line Dallas has but this has been posted for the umpteenth time by other posters.

My stance is still the same Romo can win a SB if he had those defenses the Steelers, and the Packers had period.

Stautner · Jan 25, 2011

ringmaster;3820525 said:
Yes he would've made those plays Roethlisberger made if he was a Steeler.

Please spare me with your stat system.

Sanchez, Roethlisberger, or any other QB would've been killed behind this o-line Dallas has but this has been posted for the umpteenth time by other posters.

My stance is still the same Romo can win a SB if he had those defenses the Steelers, and the Packers had period.

I don't for a second think Romo would have made some of the plays Rothlesberger did in their Super Bowl win. He had defenders all over him so many times and because of his strength was able to break tackles and make a play. Not many QB's have that kind of strength.

Romo has his qualities and Roethlesberger has his, but Big Ben was the right guy for the Steelers.

ringmaster · Jan 25, 2011

Stautner;3820549 said:
I don't for a second think Romo would have made some of the plays Rothlesberger did in their Super Bowl win. He had defenders all over him so many times and because of his strength was able to break tackles and make a play. Not many QB's have that kind of strength.

Romo has his qualities and Roethlesberger has his, but Big Ben was the right guy for the Steelers.

I was just referring to what KJJ was saying about other QBs

You're right about Big Ben's size and all but I'll still say Romo would make some plays on any team as their starting QB.

KJJ · Jan 25, 2011

ringmaster;3820525 said:
Yes he would've made those plays Roethlisberger made if he was a Steeler.

Please spare me with your stat system.

Right, just make him a Steeler and he'll make the exact same clutch plays as Roethlisberger.

Make him a Packer and he'd be playing in his first SB. :laugh2: If he played for the Pats he'd have multiple SB wins and be on his way to Canton like Tom Brady. LOL I don't think the Steelers and Packers combined for 13 pro bowlers this past season like the team Romo played for in 07 but it's the team Romo plays for that's keeping him from succeeding.

Trendnet · Jan 25, 2011

KJJ;3820586 said:
Right, just make him a Steeler and he'll make the exact same clutch plays as Roethlisberger. Make him a Packer and he'd be playing in his first SB. :laugh2: If he played for the Pats he'd have multiple SB wins and be on his way to Canton like Tom Brady. LOL I don't think the Steelers and Packers combined for 13 pro bowlers this past season like the team Romo played for in 07 but it's the team Romo plays for that's keeping him from succeeding.

Yea.. we get it, you think Romo is one of the worst QB's in the league...

what are you trying to prove?

gbrittain · Jan 25, 2011

KJJ;3820586 said:
Right, just make him a Steeler and he'll make the exact same clutch plays as Roethlisberger. Make him a Packer and he'd be playing in his first SB. :laugh2: If he played for the Pats he'd have multiple SB wins and be on his way to Canton like Tom Brady. LOL I don't think the Steelers and Packers combined for 13 pro bowlers this past season like the team Romo played for in 07 but it's the team Romo plays for that's keeping him from succeeding.

I think you are missing my point. I have never said Romo is the best or that he does not have areas that could use improvement. That would be silly.

I do believe however, that the missing ingredient to a Super Bowl is not our QB. I am not suggesting that Romo has not had fault in any of the games in which Dallas has lost.

Nor as you suggest did I ever say Romo is better than Tom Brady. I am trying however to provide context and it appears to me that you do not care about context. Yes Romo and the Cowboys came up short versus the Giants. Never mind that so did Favre and Brady. Romo actually had better production against the Giants for THAT post season. Sounds much more harsh to say Romo sucked and came up short...but so did Favre and Brady that year. Again context. The Giants were pretty good that post season...

You want to give credit Ben R for an ugly game like last week because ultimately he won and made a 3rd and 6 that helped ice the clock when they already had a lead.

How do you in the same breath downplay the comeback Romo mounted against the Ravens and just point to his ugly game, but yet when it mattered most Tony delivered except that Tony did not have the benefit of a defense that could stop McClain and McGahee for 77 and 82 yard back to back late 4th quarter runs. If Dallas had not given up those two ridiculous runs, does that mean Romo played better? In your world yes, I suppose but I do not want to put words in your mouth. If Ben R goes 10-19 for 133 yards and 2 INTs but his defense does not force a fumble for a TD that is ultimately the difference in the game, does that mean Ben R suddenly played a bad game?

Again, context. To me it appears you only look at the end result and not how they got there. If that is the case, there is no question Ben R is the better QB just based on W and Ls. I happen to think more goes into it than that.

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