Rip on Romo Thread

Maikeru-sama · Oct 3, 2011

As others have stated, Tony Romo is the best option we have at the moment.

Tony Romo is still a good Quarterback, I just never understood why people always claimed he was a great Quarterback.

However, there is no doubt in my mind that he has the potential to become a great Quarterback.

Unfortunately for him, if he doesn't pile up Playoff successes, he will have been part of the worst disasters in Cowboys History. Seattle, 13-3 meltdown in the Playoffs, 2010 was a huge failure and Detroit 2011.

There is absolutely no reason to think about making a change, the guy is still a good player.

Mash · Oct 3, 2011

It is what it is.....imho the book is already written about Romo and the Cowboys.

We changed coaches.....we got rid of these so called cancer's in the locker room.

We overhauled the OL ...we have very good players in Austin...Dez and Witten.

We are now on our third HC with Romo behind center....

but the mistakes still happen...costly mistakes....Romo will dazzle you and then make you do this :banghead:

Romo needs to win a SB.......anything short of this...and his legacy will be remembered as a choker ...no matter what passing records he has accomplished for his career.

and rightfully so imho

Ive tried to support....Ive tried to defend....but every year...it gets harder.

Its time to seriously think about drafting a replacement....Romo is a mini me Favre minus the SuperBowl......a McFlabb minus the playoff victories...

CowboyManDan · Oct 3, 2011

At this point in his career and his age, he is what he is. An up/down, inconsistent QB. I hate to say it, but he' not unlike Rex Grossman now. He can make great plays and horrible plays. Unless a great running game is put around him, I believe he's got as far as he can...which is pretty damn good considering how he entered the NFL.

DIAF · Oct 3, 2011

Maikeru-sama;4159651 said:
As others have stated, Tony Romo is the best option we have at the moment.

Tony Romo is still a good Quarterback, I just never understood why people always claimed he was a great Quarterback.

However, there is no doubt in my mind that he has the potential to become a great Quarterback.

Unfortunately for him, if he doesn't pile up Playoff successes, he will have been part of the worst disasters in Cowboys History. Seattle, 13-3 meltdown in the Playoffs, 2010 was a huge failure and Detroit 2011.

There is absolutely no reason to think about making a change, the guy is still a good player.

Don't forget the December of 2008 as well.

tyke1doe · Oct 3, 2011

poost;4159263 said:
I truly believe if that is either Dez or Miles the catch is made. Robinson ran a sloppy route and did not fight for the ball.

Actually, Eric Mangini just analyzed that play. Houston had excellent coverage. The placement of his hands on Robinson prevented Robinson from turning his body to get to the ball.

Sometimes, the other team just makes a good play.

newlander · Oct 3, 2011

tyke1doe;4159828 said:
Actually, Eric Mangini just analyzed that play. Houston had excellent coverage. The placement of his hands on Robinson prevented Robinson from turning his body to get to the ball.

Sometimes, the other team just makes a good play.

...he was COVERED....DONT' THROW THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead:

Hostile · Oct 3, 2011

TheCount;4159491 said:
I thought the one he threw to Bobby was a terrible decision, not only was Bobby right there but the CB had leverage and looked like he would have had a shot to pick it off as well, or at the very least easily bat it down, from what I remember.

And being that was the play that completely swung the momentum, I don't think it was a matter of it just being "one of those days", there's nothing wrong with saying he made a bad decision, he's not the first (or worst) QB to make one.

Has he completed that very pass many times before or not?

JohnnyHopkins · Oct 3, 2011

Hostile;4159864 said:
Has he completed that very pass many times before or not?

To Bobby? No, that was the first time as far as I know.

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tyke1doe · Oct 3, 2011

newlander;4159856 said:
...he was COVERED....DONT' THROW THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look, I'm not trying to absolve Tony Romo's mistakes, but quarterbacking in the NFL involves split-second decisions. Most receivers are "covered" when the quarterback is looking at them. But a quarterback trusts that his receiver is going to run the correct route. And, sometimes, a receiver runs the right route but the defender makes a good play.

If you look at the play, Houston has his back toward Robinson. Most quarterbacks are going to make that throw because a defender with his back to the quarterback shouldn't be able to intercept that pass. Houston just beaks a very good play.

Where I put the fault is as you say, we're up by 17. Don't throw the ball. But I blame Garrett too. The Cowboys threw on first down several times. That was a pattern that the Lions likely picked up on also.

Garrett should have shifted the game plan and started to run the ball. It seems like he made no half-time adjustments and just continued to throw on first down. You've got to make the appropriate adjustments. You know Detroit did.

newlander · Oct 3, 2011

"Garrett should have shifted the game plan and started to run the ball. It seems like he made no half-time adjustments and just continued to throw on first down. You've got to make the appropriate adjustments. You know Detroit did."

....I like Red but Schwartz outcoached him BADLY in the 2nd half yesterday. Hope he is a quick learner, because 12 games into his coaching career he's 7-5 but continually trusting Tony to 'make plays'. Take the air out of the fargin' ball Red and run it. NOT all the time...but when you're up 24 it might be prudent.

The30YardSlant · Oct 3, 2011

Hostile;4159864 said:
Has he completed that very pass many times before or not?

Against near perfect coverage with linebacker support underneath?

I love Romo, but that was a bad decision. The only way to complete a pass like that against that coverage would have been to lay the ball way out in front of the receiver, and the sideline removed that as a possibility. Outside of a mental lapse by one or both defenders, that was going to get easily batted down at best. I wouldnt even be upset about it though if it occured when we HAD to make a play, but we were up by 24 points. No need to even attempt that no win proposition.

TheCount · Oct 3, 2011

Hostile;4159864 said:
Has he completed that very pass many times before or not?

Uh no, not a lot of QB's complete a pass with a LB playing good underneath coverage in plain sight and to a WR that is blanketed by a CB. I don't see what's so difficult about admitting it was a bad decision. QB's do make them from time to time, even Romo.

Phoenix · Oct 3, 2011

Tweet from Dirk just a few minutes ago:

swish41 Dirk Nowitzki

Dear tony romo. Don't worry abt all the critics. I heard that same garbage for a long time. Keep working hard and keep improving.

dboy214 · Oct 3, 2011

Phoenix;4160153 said:
Tweet from Dirk just a few minutes ago:

swish41 Dirk Nowitzki

Dear tony romo. Don't worry abt all the critics. I heard that same garbage for a long time. Keep working hard and keep improving.

Dirk's critcisms were much more unfair compared to romo.

jobberone · Oct 3, 2011

Tony should not have thrown the pass Carpenter picked off. Nor should he have thrown that pass to Witten. That was the worst one.

Time to move on.

dgr81 · Oct 3, 2011

was hoping the "Rip" in the title was for "Rest in Peace."

left the thread disappointed.

CATCH17 · Oct 3, 2011

dboy214;4160199 said:
Dirk's critcisms were much more unfair compared to romo.

Yeah Dirk wasn't getting any help.

Romo is just gift wrapping games.

JessicaMonroe · Oct 3, 2011

newlander;4159897 said:
"Garrett should have shifted the game plan and started to run the ball. It seems like he made no half-time adjustments and just continued to throw on first down. You've got to make the appropriate adjustments. You know Detroit did."

....I like Red but Schwartz outcoached him BADLY in the 2nd half yesterday. Hope he is a quick learner, because 12 games into his coaching career he's 7-5 but continually trusting Tony to 'make plays'. Take the air out of the fargin' ball Red and run it. NOT all the time...but when you're up 24 it might be prudent.

I agree completely! I'd also go a step further and remind Garrett that doing the same thing and expecting a different result is just madness and that's all I see right now. At this point I'd blame Garrett as much as Romo, if not more, for not stepping in. If Romo cannot get the job done, get rid of him. If Garrett cannot get the job done, or notice that he needs to make changes, perhaps he needs to go too!

Undisputed · Oct 3, 2011

"When the games are close, you have to be smart with the football and that has been a problem with Tony." -- Troy Aikman

"I think he does a lot of things well, ... I think he just needs to be more consistent. And I think that's what hurts him the most. You're going to have good and bad games, but you really can't have too many bad games. You can't sway too much either way on that needle...There's a lot of teams throughout the league that do the same thing. The ones that continue to get better and stay at playing at that high level, they don't have those kind of swings." -- Joe Montana

Even Steve Young's 4-year-old criticism is still valid. Romo doesn't know how to "Stop the bleeding" when he hits a slump. It just gets worse.

We have no choice but to stick with Romo for now. But we should no longer lock him in as "our guy" for the next 5 years. He could be. But we should start considering our other options. Particularly, in the draft.

Stautner · Oct 3, 2011

JessicaMonroe;4160256 said:
I agree completely! I'd also go a step further and remind Garrett that doing the same thing and expecting a different result is just madness and that's all I see right now. At this point I'd blame Garrett as much as Romo, if not more, for not stepping in. If Romo cannot get the job done, get rid of him. If Garrett cannot get the job done, or notice that he needs to make changes, perhaps he needs to go too!

Here's the one-sided, suit your own purpose problem with this comment.

You are saying that after Romo threw an INT, Garrett shouldn't have let him pass again because he shouldn't have expected a different result if he did. So and INT set a trend that Garrett shouldn't expect to change.

At the same time you are ignoring the real trend, which is that Romo had success throwing the ball the entire 1st half, and the 1st possession of the 2nd half.

So essentially what you are saying is that Garrett should have considered the previous 8-9 possessions to be meaningless, and he should have taken the possession where there was an interception as a trend.

I can't quite get my arms around the logic on that one.

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