Informal Poll Is Garrett a better Head Coach than Wade?

17yearsandcounting · Jun 7, 2013

Doomsday101;5096659 said:
I don't I think anytime you hire a HC you give him 3 to 4 years to do the job. As Shannahan told the skins, you hire me you give me 4 years if your not going to do that then don't hire me.

Most of the time it takes time to put things in place it does not happen overnight. If all a team does is hire a coach and within 2 years they don't win they fire the Coach then that team is in for a lot of problems.

But again, Shanahan has the skins on the wall and a 30 year career to demand that kind of run. Garrett?? Not so much.

I dont doubt that Garrett will be a good coach some day, but he needs to go down and actually work his way to where he is. There is no substitute for experience.

Doomsday101 · Jun 7, 2013

17yearsandcounting;5096665 said:
But again, Shanahan has the skins on the wall and a 30 year career to demand that kind of run. Garrett?? Not so much.

I dont doubt that Garrett will be a good coach some day, but he needs to go down and actually work his way to where he is. There is no substitute for experience.

Does not chage the fact that if you hire a coach you give him time to do the job. Yes Shannhan is proven and yet he needs time why would a coach with less experiance get less time? That make no sense. You hire a man give him the time to do the job period if not then we can just go through coach after coach and scheme after scheme and get no wheres.

17yearsandcounting · Jun 7, 2013

Doomsday101;5096667 said:
Does not chage the fact that if you hire a coach you give him time to do the job. Yes Shannhan is proven and yet he needs time why would a coach with less experiance get less time? That make no sense. You hire a man give him the time to do the job period if not then we can just go through coach after coach and scheme after scheme and get no wheres.

We keep the same coach and we are changing scheme, might as well get someone who has proven that he knows what he is going.

Doomsday101 · Jun 7, 2013

17yearsandcounting;5096668 said:
We keep the same coach and we are changing scheme, might as well get someone who has proven that he knows what he is going.

Not as much as you think, Garrett is still involved with the offense and things he wants to do will still be done. Callahana is not just going to do his own thing without the HC having major say in what we are doing. Defensively yes that is a big change.

I'm sorry I don't buy into the BS of firing coaches at the drop of the hat because fans can't have no paients. I have seen way too often where fans are wrong. I saw it when whinny fans who wanted Landry fired and yes I will use Landry because it still came down to fans who have no clue hollering that the HC needed to be fired since he had no clue well ended up the only ones without a clue were the fans. Jerry would be foolish to listen to fans, give the HC his chance if he fails fine move on

juck · Jun 7, 2013

15-16? You are what ur record states

17yearsandcounting · Jun 7, 2013

Doomsday101;5096673 said:
Not as much as you think, Garrett is still involved with the offense and things he wants to do will still be done. Callahana is not just going to do his own thing without the HC having major say in what we are doing. Defensively yes that is a big change.

I'm sorry I don't buy into the BS of firing coaches at the drop of the hat because fans can't have no paients. I have seen way too often where fans are wrong. I saw it when whinny fans who wanted Landry fired and yes I will use Landry because it still came down to fans who have no clue hollering that the HC needed to be fired since he had no clue well ended up the only ones without a clue were the fans. Jerry would be foolish to listen to fans, give the HC his chance if he fails fine move on

Enough with the Landry garbage. It was a different era with an expansion team with no draft picks. ENOUGH.

Hostile · Jun 7, 2013

juck;5096674 said:
15-16? You are what ur record states

21-19 then. 2010 = 5-3, 2011 = 8-8. 2012 = 8-8. 5+8+8 = 21. 3+8+8 = 19.

Wade's record (34-22, 1-1 in the post season) was better than Parcells' record (34-30, 0-2 in the post season). I still say Parcells was, and is, the better HC. Jason will absolutely end up being the better HC when the final chapter is written and I do think you roll the dice on that.

Doomsday101 · Jun 7, 2013

17yearsandcounting;5096676 said:
Enough with the Landry garbage. It was a different era with an expansion team with no draft picks. ENOUGH.

BS, it is still football. You hire someone you give them a chance. Hell every coach wants a committment by the team to do the job if your not willing to do that then you can forget hiring a top coach. I don't know if Garrett will work out or not neither do any of you but once the choice was made to hire him as the HC then he should be given the same chance any other coach would be given.

Risen Star · Jun 7, 2013

ABQCOWBOY;5096034 said:
BTW, I don't like that Jerry continues to do this with the Coaching Staff. I don't like that he brings in a HC and then undercuts the HC, to a certain extent, by bringing in a HC in waiting, so to speak. That's just what it seems as if the culture has developed into. I don't really like that.

Yeah, that's kinda why this team doesn't win anymore. The owner micromanaging every aspect of the team.

If he can ever get over himself and stick to just owning the team, maybe we'll contend again.

Avenger · Jun 7, 2013

xwalker;5096026 said:
Is Garrett a better Head Coach than Wade?

Is this a real question?

ABQCOWBOY · Jun 7, 2013

Hostile;5096681 said:
21-19 then. 2010 = 5-3, 2011 = 8-8. 2012 = 8-8. 5+8+8 = 21. 3+8+8 = 19.

Wade's record (34-22, 1-1 in the post season) was better than Parcells' record (34-30, 0-2 in the post season). I still say Parcells was, and is, the better HC. Jason will absolutely end up being the better HC when the final chapter is written and I do think you roll the dice on that.

You may be right but it may not be in Dallas. At this point, Garrett is not a better coach then either of those two IMO. He has had the benefit of better personnel then either Parcells or Wade. He has had the benefit of picking his own staff and he has had control over scheme. I think he has to show something here or it could get very ugly.

RoyTheHammer · Jun 7, 2013

CowboysFaninDC;5096618 said:
you woudl take 100% gauranteed failure over potential for success? are you a masochist?

If what Wade did here is considered "100 percent guarenteed failure", i wonder what you would call what JG has done here so far?

Because so far, Wade is the one who has had more success here, by far.

big dog cowboy · Jun 7, 2013

khiladi;5096650 said:
Now we are seeing Jerry finally returning to some sanity, by essentially demoting Garrett.

How so?

ETex · Jun 7, 2013

No doubt about it......

Hostile · Jun 7, 2013

ABQCOWBOY;5096740 said:
You may be right but it may not be in Dallas. At this point, Garrett is not a better coach then either of those two IMO. He has had the benefit of better personnel then either Parcells or Wade. He has had the benefit of picking his own staff and he has had control over scheme. I think he has to show something here or it could get very ugly.

It will be in Dallas. People hate hearing that, but why lie about it? He's going to be here for a long time.

ABQCOWBOY · Jun 7, 2013

Hostile;5096794 said:
It will be in Dallas. People hate hearing that, but why lie about it? He's going to be here for a long time.

That is far from a sure thing.

Risen Star · Jun 7, 2013

ABQCOWBOY;5096740 said:
You may be right but it may not be in Dallas. At this point, Garrett is not a better coach then either of those two IMO. He has had the benefit of better personnel then either Parcells or Wade. He has had the benefit of picking his own staff and he has had control over scheme. I think he has to show something here or it could get very ugly.

True, ABQ.

But Garrett does not have one thing Parcells had in Dallas. Control over his own locker room. Remember Jerry talking about "walking on egg shells" while Bill was here? That meant he couldn't pull his control freak routine he's doing now.

Whatever Parcells did here, and I think it was his finest coaching job in his career considering the circumstances, he would not have been as successful with the Jerry you see now. We needed a culture change and that change had everything to do with the owner respecting his head coach again.

I think Garrett is better than Wade if only because he realizes a head coach must instill discipline and structure within his football team. Wade is a hands off pushover with no backbone.

john van brocklin · Jun 7, 2013

xwalker;5096026 said:
Is Garrett a better Head Coach than Wade?

Is none of the above a choice ?
I don't feel that either of these 2 offer a lot as HC.
Both are decent people, just not top notch Headcoaches.

Woods · Jun 7, 2013

If my only two options to hire a HC were Wade or Garrett, and this stage in Garrett's progression I choose Garrett hands down.

RoyTheHammer · Jun 7, 2013

Woods;5096819 said:
If my only two options to hire a HC were Wade or Garrett, and this stage in Garrett's progression I choose Garrett hands down.

Why do people answer this, but not provide any reasoning behind their opinion?

What makes you say Garrett, hands down.. at this point?

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