Twitter: Mike Peirera believes Cruz TD catch was incomplete

JD_KaPow · Sep 11, 2013

blindzebra said:

I was screaming about that one when it happened. Couldn't believe it didn't get a more thorough review.

danielofthesaints · Sep 11, 2013

So Mike P. contradicts his previous tweet about this matter, interesting.

blindzebra · Sep 11, 2013

danielofthesaints said:
So Mike P. contradicts his previous tweet about this matter, interesting.

He was hit with lots of tweets so he took a second look...and in another tweet he said the league office confirmed it was a bad call.

Idgit · Sep 11, 2013

Here're the two plays, one after the other.

The answer to the question at the end of the clip is 'because Cruz plays for the Giants.'

whynot · Sep 11, 2013

Coach can't challenge a scoring play anymore either.

Texas_Pete · Sep 11, 2013

whynot said:
Coach can't challenge a scoring play anymore either.

That rule should be changed.

Ultra Warrior · Sep 11, 2013

The play would have still resulted in a 1st down & goal at the1. ( or less ) Chances are, they were punching it in anyway.

Iago33 · Sep 11, 2013

Ultra Warrior said:
The play would have still resulted in a 1st down & goal at the1. ( or less ) Chances are, they were punching it in anyway.

How does an incomplete pass result in a first down?

tupperware · Sep 11, 2013

Well, it's hard to argue with a former head of officiating, but I thought otherwise.
NFL really needs to work on the consistency of their calls.

Cowboys22 · Sep 11, 2013

Ultra Warrior said:
The play would have still resulted in a 1st down & goal at the1. ( or less ) Chances are, they were punching it in anyway.

No, it should have been incomplete. The league did not say he was down before crossing the goal line. He did not complete the catch because the ball came out of his hand went it hit the turf. The rule now it that you must maintain possession of the ball if you go to the ground as part of the play. He did and the ball came out. Incomplete pass.

Vertigo_17 · Sep 11, 2013

Thought it was incomplete too, surprised that they didn't even appear to review it and I thought all scoring plays were supposed to be reviewed.

We won the game, guess it doesn't matter but consistency would be nice. Not even going to get into the salsa dancing celebrations...

aikemirv · Sep 11, 2013

I think there is a difference between CJ and Cruz catches. I dont think Cruz was going to the ground on the catch. I think he got 2 feet established and then was tackled down. I don't think he was necessarily going to the ground with the cacth like CJ was.

If that was a Cowboy, I would be livid if they had called that incomplete. The blatant hold on the play though.... that should have been called!

visionary · Sep 11, 2013

Iago33 said:
How does an incomplete pass result in a first down?

exactly
and the giants also had a first down and goal at the1 after the interception, hw did that work out for them?

JohnsKey19 · Sep 11, 2013

I initially thought he established possession with 2 feet hitting the ground first as the tackle carried him to the ground. Wow,wasn't that a 3rd down? Could've potentially been a huge blown call.

Zordon · Sep 11, 2013

these zebras are screwing up something every week.

WoodysGirl · Sep 11, 2013

Texas_Pete said:
That rule should be changed.

Well, it was changed because all scoring plays are supposed to be reviewed.

Cowboys22 · Sep 11, 2013

aikemirv said:
I think there is a difference between CJ and Cruz catches. I dont think Cruz was going to the ground on the catch. I think he got 2 feet established and then was tackled down. I don't think he was necessarily going to the ground with the cacth like CJ was.

If that was a Cowboy, I would be livid if they had called that incomplete. The blatant hold on the play though.... that should have been called!

Not true. He was clearly going to the ground before he established possession of the ball. He only got one foot down so he didn't establish possession until his arm hit the ground. Obviously at that point he is heading to the ground and must maintain possession of the ball throughout the entire process. The problem with the rule is that it doesn't pass the eye test. It clearly looks like a catch and a TD and most would agree it should be but the rule as in place at the moment says incomplete pass.

Cowboys22 · Sep 11, 2013

WoodysGirl said:
Well, it was changed because all scoring plays are supposed to be reviewed.

No, the replay officials in the Dallas game botched it. The rule is still the same as evidenced by CJs TD being overturned and the league confirming today that Cruz's TD should have been ruled incomplete.

big dog cowboy · Sep 11, 2013

So much for home field advantage.

Twitter: Mike Peirera believes Cruz TD catch was incomplete

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